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The short story: 6 month, 3 week old baby is having poops with lots of mucus in them and I am trying to get his digestive system happy.<br><br>
The long story: We've had problems with mucus in his poops off and on since he was born. He has reflux, which he is taking Prevacid for that. I tried cutting out dairy for 2 weeks when he was a month or two old but I didn't notice a difference so I stopped. We introduced some solids just before he turned 6 months old, rice cereal, oatmeal cereal and butternut squash. At the same time I started eating more nuts and chocolate (around Halloween) which I had previously eaten very little of. After two days of squash he got VERY gassy, waking up every hour or two at night and passing gas. I stopped the solids and cut the nuts and chocolate back out of my diet. After that the gas went away (mostly) but he had several days of green mucusy poops and then just more normal color but still lots of mucus. The pedi checked and there was microscopic blood in his poop. Around this time we also stopped his Prevacid and he started spitting up more but was not fussy about it so I thought it was okay. Then one evening he spit up dried blood, his pedi said he probably retched hard enough that he tore a small blood vessel in his esophagus and to put him back on Prevacid. We did and no more bloody spit up. I have tried probiotics (for me and him), I am block nursing, only one boob for 3-4 hours at a time so I don't think foremilk/hindmilk imbalance is the problem.<br><br>
The pedi feels it is something in my diet. I've been off wheat (or any gluten), and dairy for 5 days now. I'm probably getting some trace amounts of soy but no major amounts. His eczema actually looked a little less red today but I think he's still got a fair amount of mucus in his poop.<br>
Can mucus in the poop EVER be normal? It has come and gone ever since he was born though I am a little perplexed as to why it is more consistently there now than when I was consuming whatever I wanted to eat. He used to have at least some good seedy poops but now there is mucus in every poop. He goes once a day usually. I'm also getting a little confused about what "normal" even looks like and can only find a few pictures here and there on the internet. He is teething and I've heard that can produce some mucus, but again, I don't know how much is normal. I'm guessing anything that has a slick look/texture to it is mucus?<br><br>
I'm a little discouraged and feeling guilty about the fact that I really want to eat wheat and/or dairy by Thanksgiving, but I don't know if that's enough time to give the diet a chance. We'll be at my in-laws and it's going to be hard for me to be on such a strict diet. (I know this may not sound strict to some but it is for me.) It would help if I could introduce one or the other back into my diet before then to see which one is the problem (if it is even one of those things). This is assuming the poops get better in the next week or so. I don't really know which food to start eating again/how much to put back in my diet or if I should. The diet is really tough for me, I keep obsessing and googling things about food allergies. I am already underweight and have lost even more weight recently because it's hard to eat enough. I am a fairly picky eater but I am trying to branch out and try to eat healthier.<br><br>
How much of a problem is mucusy poop, assuming that baby is not having any other symptoms? He gets fussy but I am pretty sure that it is due to teething and just in general wanting attention and not wanting to play by himself. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> He has always gained weight just fine and was 18 lb, 13 oz at his 6 month visit.
 

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Hi Shannon,<br><br>
I have no answer for you, but I just wanted to let you know that you are not alone. I have dealing with the same issue with my daughter.<br><br>
DD (4 months and 18.5 lbs) has had greenish poop since she was about 3 weeks old. I initially thought it was because I had too much milk and that she was getting too much foremilk, but that was until I got a blood test that look for antibodies in my blood which reveal the food allergies that I have. I never suspected it but I have some pretty severe allergies. So I cut out the "allergens" and her poop got a bit better and so did her eczema, but something else started to irritate her. DD's breath and poop started to smell sour and she began having acid reflux. Medication is not doing enough to stop it and she is in pain from it. I am now suspecting that it's the soy that I've eating/drinking to replace all the foods that I cannot have and I am hoping that I will start to see some positive results in a day or two (no soy added to my body in the last 24 hours).<br><br>
DD was refusing to eat when I was putting her to bed last night until she got drowsy enough. I debated whether or not to feed her...it was a dilemma. As hard as it is for her, it's very hard for me as well because it seems like there is nothing I can eat. Needing to keep up my energy to take care of her and to feed her make me obsess about food. I am constantly wondering about what alternative food sources there are. I just thought of hemp milk...maybe I'll give that one a try in a few days.<br><br>
In terms of how bad is green poop I have to say I don't know. All I want is to give her a good start and to make things comfortable for her. I know my diet impacts her greatly (she gets insomnia when I drink milk) and that having too many foods that she cannot tolerate might increase the chances of food allergy later on, so I am trying my hardest to stay away from food that has a negative impact on her. Hang in there if you can.
 

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Sorry to hear you are having problems as well.<br><br>
It is very hard to feel like you spend all your time obsessing about food and wondering if this or that caused your little one's bout of gas or latest weird poop.<br><br>
I have read that 30-50% of babies who have a milk protein intolerance will also be intolerant of soy. I've stayed away from soy milk and cheese but I still eat things that have trace amounts of soy (it's hard to avoid!) I can't drink almond milk (staying away from nuts) so I use rice milk. Hemp milk sounds like an option too.<br><br>
I just spoke with the pedi's office and they are referring Ds to a GI specialist. I asked what they would be doing and she said she wasn't sure...could range from scoping him to putting him on Nutramigen (not sure I will agree to that) or just saying as long as he's growing and not having pain, to just let it be for now.<br><br>
I thought we had turned a corner and had started getting less mucus in the poops and today he had quite a bit again. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
It is such a hard line to walk figuring out how to eat well to keep our strength (and not go crazy) and also trying to do the best for the baby. I hope you are able to find some answers soon!
 

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having a similiar dilema regarding thanksgiving. I've been off gluten and dairy for 4 days and want to reintroduce them on Thansgiving but am not sure if it will be too soon. My twins excema has improved slightly but they are still spitty and gassy. I am not going to reintroduce unless I see a good improvement! I am planning to use coconut milk and almond milk as a sub at thanksgiving and cornbread for stuffing if i d o it df/gf
 

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I have had problems with both green poop and mucousy poop with both my kids. I didn't really do much to correct the problem about the mucous...it seemed to correct itself, but didn't last long. As for green poop, its because the baby is getting too much of the sugary fore-milk and not enough of the fatty hind-milk. Just nurse longer on one side until completely empty and that should resolve the problem. As for eczema, cutting out ALL dairy cleared up my son...no milk, cheese, yogurt, creamy, pasta sauces...but I did eat baked goods once in a while that contained dairy and that didn't seem to hurt him. Good luck in trying to find the problem, but don't stress so much that it is ruining your experience with motherhood. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/hug2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Hug2">
 

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I am 10 days into no dairy/soy/wheat/nuts (well the nuts I had already cut out) and I think I am going to put wheat back in. His eczema got a bit better and then it got bad again so I think there is still something in my diet bothering him. I am keeping a food diary. I don't think it is the wheat but I'll stay off dairy/soy to give those a fair trial since it takes longer for them to get out. I'm lucky I have family willing to help me with Thanksgiving and using rice milk instead of cows milk. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> I was bummed about it but now I'm trying to realize this is just one Thanksgiving and next year I will likely be eating whatever I want again.<br><br>
His poops are still very mucusy but I have pretty much made up my mind that I am going to keep nursing even if they tell me they want him on formula.<br><br>
bzmum, how long after you stopped dairy did you see the eczema improve? How long did it take for the mucus poops to resolve?
 

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Hi ShannonMVT,<br><br>
DD's skin and digestive issues have improved quite a bit now. I've been off diary and gluten for 2 weeks and soy for about 4 days. Her eczema is very mild and barely visible (looked a lot better after about 4 days off of dairy and gluten). Her breath and poop are both starting to smell normal after 4 days off of soy. She also seems to be happier and more interactive since I've been off dairy and gluten (makes me wonder about children with autism or other mental health issues who improve a lot after going off of these foods). The mucusy poop is still there but getting better as well. It seems like things are looking up a bit so I am quite happy. I am making my own hemp milk as a milk substitute. It's more filling and higher in protein than rice milk.
 

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Thanks! Glad to hear your DD is doing so much better.<br><br>
Ds's eczema got a little better right after I cut wheat/dairy but now it is bad again. After looking at my food diary I am suspicious he has a problem with corn. I don't really think it is dairy/wheat (I've gorged on pizza before and it didn't seem to make anything wose) but I'm going to stay off the dairy and soy just in case since those take so long to leave your system.
 

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You ladies would get a lot of good advice over on the allergies forum. Dairy, gluten (including wheat and other cereal grains), soy, and corn are top GI offenders based on a pretty extensive poll. Its a good place to start for an elim diet. The bowel is <i>slow</i> to heal, so give it time, at least 2 weeks - a month would be better before you decide if its working. . There are lots of things you can do to help the healing speed along (probiotics being one), but first you have to eliminate the irritants. Gluten is the slowest to leave the system and I would not try to add wheat back after only 10 days personally just in case his is gluten-intolerant. I would not try adding foods if the bowel is still showing signs of injury (mucus, reflux) and just focus on eating as wide a variety as you can for health. This is a slow, slow process. Reactions can be slow too. My DS did "fine" on dairy for a month before his reflux and mucus returned full force. Within two weeks of removing it, he was back to normal. We are doing awesome on a diet of mostly meat, veggies, fruits, nuts and eggs. I feel healthier than ever and we're still breastfeeding at one year! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy"><br><br>
And to answer your question, is mucus in the poop ever ok? I don't think its any different than mucus coming out the nose. If that was happening every day would you be concerned and try to find out the cause? Eliminate it even if the child was gaining weight and generally happy? Of course. Its no different.
 

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Not silly at all, there are a lot of forums on this site! Its under Health and Healing. Here's a link! <a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/forumdisplay.php?f=307" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/discussions...play.php?f=307</a>
 

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I just wanted to add that it can take quite awhile for all the allergens/proteins to leave both your and your baby's systems. I was off dairy for almost a month before she had almost normal looking poops, and if I slip just the tiniest bit, then she gets the green/bloody poops starting three days later and lasting for 2-3 days.<br><br>
With the soy, I have seen a lot of improvement cutting out everything but "soy lecithin".
 

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Thanks for all the input! I went with my gut feeling (and after looking at my food diary) and I really feel that the problem is corn. Each night I had a significant amount of corn products, he woke up with gas. I've been off corn for a few days now and I have already seen a big difference in how well he is sleeping and also yesterday's poop was better. Still not totally normal, but better. I put wheat back in because it just so hard to cut out and get enough to eat (plus again, gut feeling that it wasn't the problem) in but I will stay off the dairy and soy for now since I know dairy/soy are such top offenders and take several weeks to get out of mom and baby's systems.<br><br>
I'm really hopeful that I may have found the cause! I have noticed for some time that each time I had mexican food he had trouble. I kept thinking it had to be cheese or onion or bell pepper or tomato, etc and was trying to cut those out when it turns out it very well may have been the corn tortilla chips all along. I had no idea corn was such a top allergen!
 
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