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Hi....A lady I work with has a DD that just turned a year old. She was at work talking about her getting her shots and wanted to know how Jaryn had acted with his. I then told her I didn't get Jaryn's and we got into a discussion as to why, I told her a lot of things, but not everything could come to mind. She then started to freak out a little and wanted to know more. I told her I would get some info for her. I know I have a million print outs, but I was wondering if someone would have something handy with info on 18 months shots. She also wanted something that is sort of from both sides, such as why you shouldn't get them and why you should. I also would like to get a chart on declining diseases, I had one but not sure where it went. I really don't read that much on it anymore, because we have decided for sure not to vax so I see not point in stressing over it. If you could send it to me and I could print it off that would be awesome. I am hoping to talk her out of not getting her DD anymore. She is also FF but that's a whole nother story.<br><br>
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Just came from an 18 month well baby visit. The only vaccination that came up was Hep A, and even the pediatrician said that it was totally optional. He said they recommend it for people traveling overseas, and that they offer it because we happen to live in an extremely diverse area where evidently the risk is a bit higher.<br><br>
Our Dr. is pretty pro-vax and even he wasn't pushing for this one, so hopefully your friend won't have any issues with her upcoming visit.
 

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I thought at 18 months they also do the very controversial MMR vaccine unless he had it at 15 mo.?<br><br>
You ought to send her to this forum where she can get all the info herself.<br><br>
Here are the charts I think you wanted -<br><br><a href="http://www.healthsentinel.com/graphs.php?tablename=graphcategories&id=4&event=graphcats_print_list_item" target="_blank">http://www.healthsentinel.com/graphs...rint_list_item</a><br><br>
Click on each graph and it enlarges.<br><br>
This forum mostly presents one side only, the anti-vax site since the other side is all over the place anyway. But you can tell her most of us don't vaccinate because the vaccines don't work for very long and they constantly require boosters and the ingredients are so damaging to a human body that they most likely cause all that childhood cancer we see now.<br><br>
Here are a few vaccine facts -<br><br><a href="http://www.vaccineinfo.net/immunization/vaccine_facts.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.vaccineinfo.net/immunizat...ne_facts.shtml</a>
 

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There's a few possible vaxes that could be given at the 18-month WBV, but most of these would probably be given as some other time.<br><br>
Here's a list of some possibilities, the age ranges for administration of each vax, and info on the vax and VPD:<br><br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Varicella: 12-18 months</span></b><br>
- CDC's <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vaccine/varicella/default.htm" target="_blank">varicella vax page</a><br>
- From eMedicineHealth: <a href="http://www.emedicinehealth.com/chickenpox/article_em.htm" target="_blank">Chicken pox</a><br>
- From MayoClinic.Com: <a href="http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/chickenpox/DS00053" target="_blank">Chicken pox</a><br><br>
- From the label info on file with the FDA, ingredients for the refrigerator-stable formulation of <a href="http://www.fda.gov/cber/label/varmer110906lb2.pdf" target="_blank">Varivax</a>, a varicella vax <br><span style="color:#0000FF;"><br>
A minimum of 1350 plaque forming units (PFU) Oka/Merck varicella virus<br>
18 mg sucrose<br>
8.9 mg hydrolyzed porcine gelatin (derived from pig tissue)<br>
3.6 mg urea <br>
2.3 mg sodium chloride<br>
0.36 mg monosodium L-glutamate<br>
0.33 mg sodium phosphate dibasic<br>
57 micrograms potassium phosphate monobasic<br>
57 micrograms potassium chloride<br>
Residual components of MRC-5 cells including DNA and protein <br>
Trace quantities neomycin (an antibiotic)<br>
Trace quantities bovine calf serum<br>
(no preservatives)<br><br>
A preparation of the Oka/Merck strain of live, attenuated varicella virus. The virus was obtained from a child with wild-type varicella, then introduced into human embryonic lung cell cultures, adapted to and propagated in embryonic guinea pig cell cultures and propagated in human diploid cell cultures. Further passage of the virus was performed at Merck Research Laboratories in human diploid cell cultures.</span><br><br>
_____<br><br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;">DTaP #4: 15-18 months</span></b><br>
- From the CDC: the <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/VIS/vis-tdap.pdf" target="_blank">DTap VIS</a><br>
- From the CDC's Pink Book: <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/pink/dip.pdf" target="_blank">Diphtheria</a>, <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/Nip/publications/pink/tetanus.pdf" target="_blank">tetanus</a>, and <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/Nip/publications/pink/pert.pdf" target="_blank">pertussis</a> chapters<br>
- From MayoClinic.Com: <a href="http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/diphtheria/DS00495" target="_blank">Diphtheria</a><br>
- From MayoClinic.Com: <a href="http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/tetanus/DS00227" target="_blank">Tetanus</a><br>
- From MayoClinic.Com: <a href="http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/whooping-cough/DS00445" target="_blank">Pertussis<br></a><br>
- From the National Guideline Clearinghouse: <a href="http://www.guideline.gov/summary/summary.aspx?doc_id=4363&nbr=003288&string=tetanus" target="_blank">(1) Pertussis vaccination: use of acellular pertussis vaccines among infants and young children.<br>
(2) Use of diphtheria toxoid-tetanus toxoid-acellular pertussis vaccine as a five-dose series. (Addendum)</a><br><br>
- Ingredients and some preparation info on <a href="http://www.fda.gov/cber/label/dtapsan110806LB.pdf" target="_blank">Daptacel</a> (diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis vax)<br><span style="color:#0000FF;"><br>
10 micrograms detoxified pertussis toxin<br>
5 micrograms filamentous haemagglutinin <br>
5 micrograms fimbriae types 2 and 3 (FIM) <br>
3 micrograms pertactin (PRN) <br>
15 Lf (limit flocculation) diphtheria toxoid <br>
5 Lf (limit flocculation) tetanus toxoid <br>
1.5 mg aluminum phosphate (0.33 mg of aluminum)<br>
5 micrograms or less of residual formaldehyde<br>
50 nanograms or less of residual glutaraldehyde<br>
3.3 mg (0.6% v/v) 2-phenoxyethanol <br><br>
- Pertussis: <br>
Bordetella pertussis cultures grown in Stainer-Scholte medium, with added casamino acids and dimethyl-beta-cyclodextrin. <br>
Toxin detoxified with glutaraldehyde. <br>
Filamentous hemagglutinin is treated with formaldehyde. Residual aldehydes are removed by ultrafiltration. <br>
Individual antigens adsorbed separately onto aluminum phosphate. <br><br>
- Diphtheria:<br>
Corynebacterium diphtheriae cultures grown in modified Mueller’s growth medium. <br>
Toxin purified by ammonium sulfate fractionation and detoxified with formaldehyde and diafiltered. <br>
Toxoid is individually adsorbed onto aluminum phosphate<br><br>
- Tetanus:<br>
Clostridium tetan: cultures grown in modified Mueller-****** casamino acid medium without beef heart infusion. <br>
Toxin is detoxified with formaldehyde and purified by ammonium sulfate fractionation and diafiltration. <br>
Toxoid individually adsorbed onto aluminum phosphate.</span><br><br>
- Ingredients and some info on preparation of <a href="http://www.fda.gov/cber/label/dtapsmi121302LB.pdf" target="_blank">Pediarix </a>(diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis vax<br><span style="color:#0000FF;">25 Lf diphtheria toxoid<br>
10 Lf of tetanus toxoid<br>
25 micrograms inactivated pertussis toxin<br>
25 micrograms filamentous hemagglutinin<br>
8 micrograms pertactin<br>
10 micrograms HBsAg (hepatitis B surface antigen)<br>
40 D-antigen Units (DU) of Type 1 poliovirus<br>
8 DU of Type 2 poliovirus<br>
32 DU of Type 3 poliovirus<br>
2.5 mg 2-phenoxyethanol (a preservative)<br>
4.5 mg sodium chloride<br>
Not more than 0.85 mg aluminum by assay<br>
100 micrograms or less residual formaldehyde<br>
100 micrograms or less polysorbate 80 (Tween 80)<br>
Thimerosal is used at the early stages of manufacture and is removed by subsequent purification steps to below the analytical limit of detection (less than 25 nanograms mercury per 20 micrograms HBsAg) which upon calculation is less than 12.5 nanograms mercury per dose <br>
0.05 nanograms or less of Neomycin <br>
0.01 nanograms or less of polymyxin B<br>
5% or less of yeast protein<br><br>
- Diphtheria: <br>
Corynebacterium diphtheriae cultures grown in Fenton medium containing a bovine extract.<br>
The bovine materials are from countries that the USDA has determined neither have nor are at risk of bovine spongiform encephalopathy.<br>
Detoxified with formaldehyde.<br>
Purified by precipitation, dialysis, and sterile filtration.<br><br>
- Tetanus: <br>
Clostridium tetani cultures grown in a modified Latham medium derived from bovine casein. The bovine materials are from countries that the USDA has determined neither have nor are at risk of bovine spongiform encephalopathy.<br>
Detoxified with formaldehyde.<br>
Purified by precipitation, dialysis, and sterile filtration<br><br>
- Pertussis:<br>
Bordetella pertussis cultures grown in modified Stainer-Scholte liquid medium.<br>
Toxin detoxified with glutaraldehyde and formaldehyde.<br>
Filamentous hemagglutinin and pertactin, two pertussis antigens, are treated with formaldehyde. <br><br>
- Hepatitis B surface antigen (HBsAg):<br>
Genetically engineered Saccharomyces cerevisiae cells, which carry the surface antigen gene of the hepatitis B virus, are cultured in a synthetic medium. <br>
The surface antigen is purified by precipitation, ion exchange chromatography, and ultrafiltration. <br>
Residual thimerosal removed by dialysis with cysteine.<br><br>
- Polio: <br>
Each strain is individually grown in VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells, cultivated on microcarriers. Calf serum and lactalbumin hydrolysate are used during culture. Calf serum is from countries the USDA has determined neither have nor are at risk of BSE. <br>
Each viral suspension is purified by ultrafiltration, diafiltration, and <br>
chromatographic steps. <br>
Each viral suspension is inactivated with formaldehyde.</span><br><br>
- Ingredients and some info on preparation of <a href="http://www.fda.gov/cber/label/dtapcon073196Lb.pdf" target="_blank">Tripedia</a>, a diphtheria, acellular pertussis, and tetanus vax<br><span style="color:#0000FF;">6.7 Lf of diphtheria toxoid<br>
5 Lf of tetanus toxoid<br>
46.8 micrograms of pertussis antigens. This is represented in the final vaccine as approximately 23.4 micrograms of inactivated pertussis toxin and 23.4 micrograms of filamentous hemagglutinin.<br>
Not more than 0.170 mg of aluminum <br>
Not more than 100 micrograms (0.02%) of residual formaldehyde<br>
Unspecified amounts of gelatin<br>
Unspecified amounts of polysorbate 80<br><br>
-Diphtheria: <br>
Corynebacterium diphtheriae cultures are grown in a modified Mueller and ****** medium. <br>
Toxin detoxified with formaldehyde.<br>
Purified by ammonium sulfate fractionation and diafiltration.<br>
Toxiods are adsorbed using aluminum potassium sulfate. <br><br>
- Tetanus: <br>
Clostridium tetani cultures are grown in a peptone-based medium containing a bovine extract. <br>
Toxin detoxified with formaldehyde.<br>
Purified by ammonium sulfate fractionation and diafiltration.<br>
Toxiods are adsorbed using aluminum potassium sulfate. <br><br>
- Pertussis: <br>
Phase 1 Bordetella pertussis cultures grown in a modified Stainer-Scholte medium.</span><br><br>
- Ingredients list and some preparation info for <a href="http://www.fda.gov/cber/label/dtapgla070703LB.pdf" target="_blank">Infanrix</a> (diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis vax)<br><span style="color:#0000FF;">25 Lf diphtheria toxoid<br>
10 Lf of tetanus toxoid <br>
25 micrograms inactivated pertussis toxin<br>
25 micrograms filamentous hemagglutinin<br>
8 microgram pertactin. <br>
2.5 mg phenoxyethanol<br>
4.5 micrograms sodium chloride<br>
Not more than 0.625 mg aluminum by assay<br>
100 micrograms or less of residual formaldehyde <br>
100 micrograms or less of polysorbate 80<br><br>
- Diphtheria: <br>
Corynebacterium diphtheriae cultures grown in Fenton medium containing a bovine extract. <br>
Toxin detoxified with formaldehyde and purified by precipitation, dialysis, and sterile filtration.<br><br>
- Tetanus:<br>
Clostridium tetani cultures grown in a modified Latham medium derived from bovine casein. <br>
Toxin detoxified with formaldehyde and purified by precipitation, dialysis, and sterile filtration.<br><br>
- Pertussis:<br>
Bordetella pertussis culture grown in modified Stainer-Scholte liquid medium. <br>
Antigens are purified in successive chromatographic and precipitation steps. <br>
Toxin is detoxified using glutaraldehyde and formaldehyde. Filamentous hemagglutinin and pertactin, two pertussis antigens, are treated with formaldehyde.<br>
Each antigen is individually adsorbed onto aluminum hydroxide</span><br><br>
_____<br><br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;">HepB #3: 6-18 months</span></b><br>
- CDC page on <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/b/" target="_blank">Hep B</a><br>
- From the CDC: <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/VIS/vis-hep-b.pdf" target="_blank">Hep B VIS</a><br>
- From MayoClinic.Com: <a href="http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hepatitis-b/DS00398" target="_blank">Hep B</a><br>
- Link to <a href="http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_engerixb.pdf" target="_blank">prescribing info on Engenrix-B</a>, a hep B vax (ingredients are listed)<br>
- Ingredients and some info on the preparation of <a href="http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:5irqjWvaeM4J:www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/r/recombivax_hb/recombivax_pi.pdf+recombivax+hb+label&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us&client=firefox-a" target="_blank">Recombivax HB</a>, a Hep B vax: <br><span style="color:#0000FF;"><br>
Pediatric/Adolescent Formulation<br>
5 micrograms hepatitis B surface antigen. <br>
Not more than 1% yeast protein but no detectable yeast DNA<br>
(no preservatives)<br><br>
Adult Formulation<br>
10 micrograms hepatitis B surface antigen<br>
Not more than 1% yeast proteins but no detectable yeast DNA<br>
(no preservatives)<br><br>
Dialysis Formulation <br>
40 micrograms hepatitis B surface antigen<br>
Not more than 1% yeast protein but no detectable yeast DNA<br>
(no preservatives)<br><br>
All formulations<br>
0.5 mg of aluminum<br><br>
Cell cultures is performed on a recombinant strain of the yeast <br>
Saccharomyces cerevisiae containing the gene for the adw subtype of HBsAg. S. cerevisiae is grown in a complex fermentation medium of an extract of yeast, soy peptone, dextrose, amino acids and mineral salts. The purified protein is treated with formaldehyde and coprecipitated with alum (potassium aluminum sulfate) to create the bulk vaccine adjuvanted with amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate. </span><br><br>
_____<br><br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;">IPV #3: 6-18 months</span></b><br>
- CDC's Pink Book chapter on polio<br>
- CDC's <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/Nip/publications/VIS/vis-IPV.pdf" target="_blank">polio VIS</a><br>
- From MayoClinic.Com: <a href="http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/polio/DS00572" target="_blank">Polio</a><br>
- Link to <a href="http://www.vaccineshoppe.com/US_PDF/860-10_4305_4308.pdf" target="_blank">prescribing info for IPOL</a>, the ipv (includes ingredients)<br><br>
HTH.
 

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<b>Gitti</b><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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I'm sorry, I missed that study. Do you have a reference for that? Because it just seems odd that many vaccines have been around for years and the rises in cancer just don't seem to jive with the rises in vaccination rates... but I'm sure a reliable study would clear that up.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">But you can tell her most of us don't vaccinate because the vaccines don't work for very long and they constantly require boosters and the ingredients are so damaging to a human body that they most likely cause all that childhood cancer we see now.]</div>
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Here are some facts about incidence rates (rates of new cases) of childhood cancer in recent years. Most of the incidence rates cover the period of 1975-1995, a time when the number of vaccines increased, new vaccines were introduced, and overall vaccine coverage increased. As you can see, for most childhood cancers, there has not been a corresponding increase in incidence.<br><br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Childhood cancer, in general</span></b><br>
Peak incidence is during the first year of life<br><br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Retinoblastoma</span></b><br>
Incidence: No substantial change in incidence from 1975-199<br>
Cause: Many cases are due to genetics, with a child who inherits the retinoblastoma gene having a 90% risk of developing retoniblastoma<br><br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Wilms’ Tumor</span></b> = most common form of kidney cancer in kids<br>
Incidence: No substantial changes in incidencue from 1975- to 1995<br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><br>
Leukemia</span></b><br>
Incidence: While there has been a slight increase in the incidence of ALL from 1975 to 1995, the rates of all other childhood leukemas did not increase during this time period<br><br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Sort tissue sarcomas</span></b><br>
Incidence: Among infant, children, and adolescents the incidence of sort tissue sarcomas has not significantly changed from 1975-1995<br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><br>
Sympathetic nervous system cancers</span></b><br>
Incidence: No significant increase in incidence for the past 21 years<br><br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Liver cancer</span></b><br>
Incidence: Incidence of hepatoblastoma in kids younger than 15 years of age increased from 1975-1995 while the incidence of hepatocellular carcinoma decreased during this period.<br><br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Lymphomas and reticuloendothelial cancers</span></b><br>
Incidence: The incidence of Non-Hodgkinds Lymphoma among kids under 15 years of age has stayed fairly constant for the past 21 years. There has been a slight increase in incidence for kids 15-19 years of age.<br><br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;">CNS cancers</span></b><br>
Incidence: The estimated annual percentage change of CNS cancers in kids was an increase of 1.5%. When analyzed further, it was discovered that the incidence didn’t increase steadily but instead jumped to a higher rate after 1984-1985. The estimated annual percentage change from 1975-1984 was a decrease of 0.1% and for 1986-1995 was a decrease of 0.1%. The timing of the jump in incidence coincides with the wide-scale availability of MRI, the fundamental imaging modality for diagnosing CNS cancers. This leads to the hypothesis that the jump in incidence was due to an increase in detection as there has not been any jump in CNS cancer mortality during the same period.
 

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Thanks, Crisstiana. I was getting... well not really concerned, actually. But that was quite the statement and I was wondering what basis in reality it might have. It is also nice to see links to people that are accountable to the public.
 
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