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I had a miscarriage in August at 10 weeks and another one this cycle at 4-5 weeks. I wasn't charting then, but I am trying to now. My BBT's are all over the place. I can't seem to get a pattern other than an up and down BBT. I am charting now to find out if I still have LPD like I did before I conceived my first living child. I did not supplement with progesterone and carried to term with no problems.<br><br>
It seems that there is no period of time where I have 3 hours of uninterrupted sleep. I take my temp around 7am when my son wakes up. However almost every morning I wake up around 4, 5, or 6 am to pee, or my son wakes up early, or I was up all night from a storm or something. I either don't get back to sleep or don't sleep deeply and feel partly conscious until I take my temp at 7am. I am not sure how accurate my temps are, other than I know I am not getting a realistic temp based on 3 hours of uninterrupted sleep before I wake up to take my temp.<br><br>
Also, I don't know how the miscarriage could be affecting this cycle. Right now I have all the symptoms of ovulation. I had a nearly positive OPK yesterday, so I expect to have a positive OPK today. I have ovulation pain and tender nipples. Unless I have a dramatic drop in temperature, I don't know how I am going to be able to tell if I ovulated based on BBT.<br><br>
I am not TTC this cyle, just gather data and hope to conceive next cycle. I was planning to get my blood drawn after ovulation for a progesterone test.<br><br>
Here is my current chart.<a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/123e11" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/123e11</a>
 

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Tonya, I don't have any insight but I wanted to say how sorry I am for your recent loss (and your first one). Much sympathy and (((hugs))) for you. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/hug2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Hug2">
 

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So sorry for your losses.<br><br>
Your temps are probably so sporadic because you're not getting the required sleep for it. Even if they were fine, you can't tell if you've ovulated until AFTER you have (if all your doing is charting temp). Maybe it would help to also chart your cervical position? I don't chart this, but Fertility Friend has lessons on it.<br><br>
To find out if you have a LPD, just pin point that ovulation day and then see how many days until AF. After a few cycles, you should know the answer. Your LP should stay consistent. A good natural treatment for LPD is vitamin B-6.<br><br>
GL to you!
 

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Are you temping orally? Vaginal temping apparently is less rocky.<br>
(and the link to your chart doesn't work - you have to go to the "Sharing" and "home page setup" and copy the link they give you there)<br><br>
And regarding the time you temp, I would say you'd be better off, if you consistently wake up at 4 a.m. to pee etc, to temp then. It doesn't have to be when you intend to get out of bed, just a consitent time after at least 3-4 hours sleep. Even if you had to set you alarm and just go right back to sleep? Just a suggestion.<br>
And I think it is good to see about the progesterone. Just because you were blessed to carry a pregnancy with LPD once, doesn't mean you couldn't use a little help this time around?<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> Very sorry for your losses and I hope you get things to work for you soon!
 

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Ok, let's see if this link works. I am temping orally. The only reason I don't temp earlier is because it would be enough of a disruption to fully wake me up. I have a thermometer which beeps constantly while taking my temp. Do you all use one that only beeps when it gives the final temp? I may try temping earlier next time.<br><br><a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/123e11" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/123e11</a>
 

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Temping vaginally with a loud thermometer that has recall, I know I can close my legs to drown it out and even fall back asleep and check the temp later.<br><br>
You are using a BBT thermometer and not just a regular digital, right? Theres a pretty big difference, in that a regular thermometer being off by .2 is not a big deal but with a BBT its a huge deal.
 

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I have a digital BBT thermometer with a pink handle. It beeps once when you turn it on and then only again when it is finished. At that point it keeps beeping until you turn it off. I put it aside and then check the result later. I think I got it at Target.
 

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Yeah, I am using a BBT thermometer. I charted for about 3 years to avoid and then to conceive my son. I haven't charted now in about 4 years. Now I am charting to gather info about my cycle in hopes to find out if I have a continuing LPD.
 

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I can't seem to get 3 hours of solid sleep either, and the way my cycles have been lately, I can make a fairly good guess at O just by charting CM. Have you tried that? I know the amount of CM can vary a lot from woman to woman.
 

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I don't think your temps look too bad. I've seen charts that are like the rocky mountains! LOL I would see what the end result of this charted cycle is and if you can see a clear O just continuing to do what you are doing.
 

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I agree with Jenn--your chart looks like a normal pre-O chart to me. Good luck, I hope you see a clear thermal shift soon.
 

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Well, I am glad to hear that my chart doesn't look to bad. I am having some definite ovulation pain today and already starting to dry up. I guess that means today is O day probably. Anyway, I am aware of when I ovulate since there are pretty obvious signs. However, I use to have a luteal phase defect and since I have had 2 miscarriages in a row, I am trying to find out if I still have a LPD. That is my main purpose in charting again. I seem to have an easy time getting pregnant, but not so easy staying that way. It is frustrating because the first time I got pregnant, I did so on the first try and had no issues while pregnant. I fully expected it to be that way this time around, but so far it hasn't.
 
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