New cosleeping artcile in Parenting mag

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newcastlemama

Discussion Starter · Apr 4, 2006

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I get Parenting mag sent to me for free and I am thinking about calling and telling them to stop anyway because everytime I opening I read something that nuts!

s pg 31....

...."Following all those rules in your own bed isn't easy.' Nearly fifty percent of all babies who die suddenly and unexpectantly are in a bed-sharing situation, so why take the chance' says Rachael Moon, MD, member of AAP's task force."

I have NEVER heard that stat! Have you?0

Also there are several food adds disguised as articles...Kraft has a medical professional promote milk products at every meal and cookies for a snack!!!!!!

Then there is an article about fat babies and when you should start to worry!

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JessicaS

· #2 · Apr 4, 2006

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Originally Posted by newcastlemama
I get Parenting mag sent to me for free and I am thinking about calling and telling them to stop anyway because everytime I opening I read something that nuts!

s pg 31....

...."Following all those rules in your own bed isn't easy.' Nearly fifty percent of all babies who die suddenly and unexpectantly are in a bed-sharing situation, so why take the chance' says Rachael Moon, MD, member of AAP's task force."

I have NEVER heard that stat! Have you?0

Also there are several food adds disguised as articles...Kraft has a medical professional promote milk products at every meal and cookies for a snack!!!!!!

Then there is an article about fat babies and when you should start to worry!

I am allergic to milk and let my five year old sleep with me.

Maybe you should run their mag through a shredder and send it back.

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Finch

· #3 · Apr 4, 2006

LMAO abimommy!

Meh. I've gotten so used to seeing the cosleeping bashing articles, and with the damn AAP behind them, I don't see much use in protesting. *sigh* I'm feeling apathetic today.

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Anguschick1

· #4 · Apr 4, 2006

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Originally Posted by newcastlemama
...."Following all those rules in your own bed isn't easy.' Nearly fifty percent of all babies who die suddenly and unexpectantly are in a bed-sharing situation, so why take the chance' says Rachael Moon, MD, member of AAP's task force."

Look at it this way....More than 50% of all babies who die suddenly and unexpectantly are NOT in a bed-sharing situation...of course most won't read it that way.

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JesiLynne

· #5 · Apr 5, 2006

I am ssssssooooo glad I dont get those mags
I used too, MIL signed up for them and sent them all to me
Most of the time I would be

uke:

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mermommy

· #6 · Apr 5, 2006

The AAP also did a "study " that led to this quote:

"There was a 61 percent reduction in SIDS risk [from pacifier use]," said Hauck.

http://www.parenthood.com/articles.html?article_id=9390
here's how it's being reported in the same blurb as don't sleep in the same bed:

"3. Offer a pacifier. Studies have shown that pacifier use decreases SIDS risk by up to 90 percent, though the AAP doesn't yet know why. Researchers recommend that caregivers offer pacifiers at naptime and bedtime, but not force it if the infant refuses.":

merpk

· #7 · Apr 5, 2006

But that nearly-50% number, aren't there other stats that say something else entirely? Remembering reading something entirely different back before we had children and were still just reading/learning ...

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mamamillet

· #8 · Apr 5, 2006

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Look at it this way....More than 50% of all babies who die suddenly and unexpectantly are NOT in a bed-sharing situation...of course most won't read it that way.

Thats what I thought too. But those numbers dopn't really mean anything without knowing how many parents co-sleep. If three times as many parents co-sleep but only represent nearly half of unexplained deaths than it is actually safer to cosleep, which we all know.

TexasSuz

· #9 · Apr 5, 2006

I actually did call and email those magazines (Baby Talk and Parenting) and told them that I did not want their free magazines. Don't even look at them, it will only make you mad. Tell them why you don't read their rags!

nancyw

· #10 · Apr 5, 2006

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I am allergic to milk and let my five year old sleep with me.

Maybe you should run their mag through a shredder and send it back.

laughup

then you can invite them to the big "Parenting Magazine Bonfire Hoe-down" at the MDC celebration in May!!

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blessed

· #11 · Apr 5, 2006

It's just another example of the pseudoscience of medicine.

Yes, cosleeping babies are inordinately represented in unexpected deaths. But what they DON'T bother to figure out is that these are very young babies who are laying unattended in an adult bed, or else lying next to an inebriated adult who passes out and rolls over onto them.

In other words, these are neglected infants in unhealthy circumstances. These are babies who are placed in an adult bed not for the intention of cosleeping, but because parents are unable or unwilling to provide separate sleeping arrangements.

Loved babies cuddled next to an attentive, sober parent do just fine.

CallMeMommy

· #12 · Apr 5, 2006

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Originally Posted by newcastlemama
Nearly fifty percent of all babies who die suddenly and unexpectantly are in a bed-sharing situation, so why take the chance'

Uh, so OVER 50% who die are NOT in a bed-sharing situation, more than likely in a crib, so doesn't that mean cosleeping is SAFER? If anyone tried to use that argument to me against cosleeping I'd throw that little tidbit in their face and watch them try to squirm their way out of it.

blessed

· #13 · Apr 5, 2006

Yes but only a small fraction of children cosleep, so it IS true that there are a disproportionately high number of deaths in the 'co-sleeping' group (if you call someone passing out in bed with their infant next to them 'cosleeping' that is.)

merpk

· #14 · Apr 5, 2006

Am having trouble with this statistics thing all around. It just seems way out of whack with stuff I read when pregnant with DS#1 eight years ago. Who still is in the family bed, BTW. Along with his younger three b'H siblings.

Am having a total disconnect with the numbers. Will look in the Nighttime Parenting forum to see if there's an article with stats, because I'm certain there's research that's so totally in opposition to this ...

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JessicaS

· #15 · Apr 5, 2006

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Originally Posted by nancyw
laughup

then you can invite them to the big "Parenting Magazine Bonfire Hoe-down" at the MDC celebration in May!!

HHmm...I do have a big yard..I am sure we could burn several Parenting Mags at my place if we get too anxious to wait for May.

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mamamillet

· #16 · Apr 5, 2006

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Yes but only a small fraction of children cosleep

How do you know that. Many parents cosleep but are afraid to day anything b/c their dr has already warned them of the dangers. My guess is more than half closer to 75% of parents cosleep.

And yes, even more pearents cosleep by default.

JessicaS

· #17 · Apr 5, 2006

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Originally Posted by blessed
Yes but only a small fraction of children cosleep, so it IS true that there are a disproportionately high number of deaths in the 'co-sleeping' group (if you call someone passing out in bed with their infant next to them 'cosleeping' that is.)

I think that would be difficult to prove. I didn't tell my Dr that we co-slept because they didn't ask.

Victorian

· #18 · Apr 5, 2006

they also lump in the co-sleeping group those that slept with their babies on a couch which is very dangerous

newcastlemama

Discussion Starter · #19 · Apr 5, 2006

Love the shredder AND bonfire idea!

I have read a study by dr Sears that said he monitored baby's vital signs in both sleeping situations....they were better in the cosleeping group...ALSO the world co-sleeps and USA (who use cribs) are the ones with SIDS!!! Note the name--"crib death"

Unfortunately, we don't know how many baby's have thrived/been saved by co-sleeping...the whole pacifier thing is what breastfeeding/bed sharing does..it keeps the baby from falling into too deep a sleep (which many think what causes SIDS) When the baby and mother atre facing eachother (which they usually do to nurse and cuddle) the mother's breathing keeps the baby in a good breathing rhythm.

I want to see the stats of people who intentionally co-slept and had an accident--and please omit those on drugs and who are drunk!!!!

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jannan

· #20 · Apr 5, 2006

i put mine into the recycle bin immidiately

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