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Ok, so, I am at the hospital the other night and they are preregistering me for when I am in the hospital having my baby. I get to all the baby forms and tell them I want to wait to sign them because I need to research what tests I want done on my baby a little better.<br>
What I do know:<br>
I know that my new son WILL NOT be getting the MMR vaccination. I have a 7 year old son that is autistic and I truly believe that shot caused it and noone will change my mind on that. SO, naturally, I do not want this vaccine for my new baby.<br>
What I don't know:<br>
How do you handle the school system when it comes time to enroll them? I know with my other 3 kids they checked their shot records and my oldest actually had to go back and get a shot he missed.<br>
Also, can someone give me an overview of what vaccines I should get and which ones I should avoid?<br>
Thanks!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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You won't have to worry about the MMR until your little one is at least 12 mos.<br><br>
As for vaxes in general- you really should learn about each disease and it's corresponding vax. No one can tell you which (if any) to give your baby. Educate yourself on your own time - don't let anyone tell you you have to get xyz vax by such and such a time- thereby pressuring you to hurry up and decide.<br><br>
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Research first. You can always go back and give vaxes- but you can't take them back if you vax first and research later.<br><br>
I'm short on time... but I'm sure someone else will be along with some links to get you started.<br><br>
ETA: Good for you, Mama, for thinking about this ahead of time!!! I know there are quite a few of us now non-vaxers who wish we had done the same! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
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after doing my research, i have decided that no vaccine is worth the risks. it has taken me months and months of researching to realize the horrors of vaccines.<br>
here is some good info:<br>
90 min video on vaccines<br><br><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8610554679207090010" target="_blank">http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...54679207090010</a><br><br>
ingredients:<br><a href="http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html" target="_blank">http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html</a><br><br><a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?p=7962558#post7962558" target="_blank">starter vax research post</a>
 

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Avoid them all; we do <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/innocent.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shy"> . Ds is only vaxed to a year and dd is 100% vaccine free.<br><br><a href="http:/vaccines/butler3.html" target="_blank">JUST A LITTLE PRICK</a><br><br><a href="showthread.php?s=80bae28800b92526ccad1f78041f45e8&p=7962558#post7962558" title="MotheringDotCommunity Forums - Post 7962558">Starter Vax Research Post</a><br><br><a href="showthread.php?s=80bae28800b92526ccad1f78041f45e8&p=7370580#post7370580" title="MotheringDotCommunity Forums - Post 7370580">Tabled Vax Injuries</a><br><br><a href="http://www.dark-truth.org/okt19-2006-2.html" target="_blank">The Dark Truth</a>
 

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religious exemption.<br><a href="http://www.mercola.com/article/vaccines/legally_avoid_shots.htm" target="_blank"><br>
http://www.mercola.com/article/vaccines/legally_avoid_shots.htm</a>
 

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state exemptions:<br><a href="http://www.909shot.com/state-site/state-exemptions.htm" target="_blank">http://www.909shot.com/state-site/state-exemptions.htm</a>
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Ok, so what do you do when they are going into school and the school wants their shot records?</div>
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That is addressed in "Starter Vax Research Post".
 

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Wow Those are loaded questions <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> and you will prob get as many answers as people on here. It's really something you will have to research a lot and come to your own decisions on. For us, we do not vax at all and don't intend too. I would recommend the book "What your doctor may not tell you about vaccines".<br><br>
My reasons are as follows:<br><br>
I think they compromise the normal, natural functioning of the immune system thru bypassing initial immune system functions such as the mucous membranes, and going directly to the blood.<br><br>
I don't agree with formaldehyde and other toxins being pumped directly into my child's blood.<br><br>
Many of them are cultivated on the tissue of abhorted fetuses, which is gross to some people regardless of whether they are pro-choice or pro-life.<br><br>
They are highly ineffective - every child i know of who has gotten pertussis (whooping cough) had been vaccinated for it at one time. Also, chicken pox is the most ridiculious IMO. Many kids still get the chicken pox and it is laughable to me to call chicken pox dangerous. (tho I"m sure there is an exception to everything).<br><br>
The diseases themselves are not that dangerous.<br><br>
We choose instead to extended BF, to give dd all organic foods at home, to give her pretty much nothing with sugar in it (incl cheerios, crackers etc - there are ones with no sugars or artificial sweeteners either). and to avoid white flour as much as possible. I recommend the <a href="http://www.hpakids.org" target="_blank">www.hpakids.org</a> website for great info on vaccines and other issues.<br><br>
We also live as natural as possible, meaning no plastic food containers or toys, all natural cleaners and toiletries etc. I think all of these things help the immune system function as it's supposed to.<br><br>
As for in the hsptl, they will do antibiotics in the eyes, a vitamin K shot, a blood test, some will do a hepB shot. You can opt out of any of them (and anything you are told is mandatory for you or baby, for that matter).<br><br>
edited to add: you also will have to look into circumcision as many hsptls do that as a routine procedure as well - it is extremely painful and not at all necessary and a big money maker. Lots of info on here about it.
 

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Can't add much that others haven't already said, but good for you for doing research!!! I vax'd my first two completely before I finally looked into this topic before having my third.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Can't add much that others haven't already said, but good for you for doing research!!! I vax'd my first two completely before I finally looked into this topic before having my third.</div>
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i currently have one dd. i vaxed her through her 2 year vax's ignorantly. then i started to learn about the pros and more specifically the cons.<br><br>
i wish i had taken more time in my pregnancy to get informed on my choices, but i had never been exposed to alternative thinking on the many aspects of child rearing, so i "went with the flow". now i know more and am able to make informed decisions about things involving my child, and future children.<br><br>
as for school, there are plenty of ways to find exemptions. find out the laws in your state, as well as the statutes surrounding them < available on many sites > cite them and cover only the details required by that law. if a school gives you any problems just let them know that you know your legal rights and they cannot force you to do anything. but you appreciate your concern.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Ok, so, I am at the hospital the other night and they are preregistering me for when I am in the hospital having my baby. I get to all the baby forms and tell them I want to wait to sign them because I need to research what tests I want done on my baby a little better.<br>
What I do know:<br>
I know that my new son WILL NOT be getting the MMR vaccination. I have a 7 year old son that is autistic and I truly believe that shot caused it and noone will change my mind on that. SO, naturally, I do not want this vaccine for my new baby.<br>
What I don't know:<br>
How do you handle the school system when it comes time to enroll them? I know with my other 3 kids they checked their shot records and my oldest actually had to go back and get a shot he missed.<br>
Also, can someone give me an overview of what vaccines I should get and which ones I should avoid?<br>
Thanks!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"></div>
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I'd do a VERY good research before I'd give ANY shots to your baby. It's not just MMR which if dangerous. Not at all!<br><br>
This is a good (hour and a half long) movie about vaccination <a href="http://www.dark-truth.org/okt19-2006-2.html" target="_blank">http://www.dark-truth.org/okt19-2006-2.html</a><br><br>
and an article/study about aluminum used in vaccines<br><br><a href="http://www.straight.com/article/vaccines-show-sinister-side" target="_blank">http://www.straight.com/article/vacc...-sinister-side</a><br>
it'll get you started...<br>
yulia.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">edited to add: you also will have to look into circumcision as many hsptls do that as a routine procedure as well - it is extremely painful and not at all necessary and a big money maker. Lots of info on here about it.</div>
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ABSOLUTELY!<br>
video of the procedure (turn your speakers on!)<br><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...umcision&hl=en" target="_blank">http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...umcision&hl=en</a><br><br>
Here is a direct link to the "The Case Against Circumcision" forum: <a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/forumdisplay.php?f=44" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/discussions...splay.php?f=44</a><br><br>
And here is a very good post "I'm pregnant"; some pregnant girl had posted it a while ago and she got TONS of responses with alot of good info and links. <a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=604463" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=604463</a><br>
Please please please do research BEFORE you make this decision. These mothers didn't and just read how deeply they regret this decision<br><br><a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=112410" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=112410</a><br>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">It's really something you will have to research a lot and come to your own decisions on. For us, we do not vax at all and don't intend too.<br><br>
My reasons are as follows:<br><br>
I think they compromise the normal, natural functioning of the immune system thru bypassing initial immune system functions such as the mucous membranes, and going directly to the blood.<br><br>
I don't agree with formaldehyde and other toxins being pumped directly into my child's blood.<br><br>
Many of them are cultivated on the tissue of abhorted fetuses, which is gross to some people regardless of whether they are pro-choice or pro-life.<br><br>
They are highly ineffective - every child i know of who has gotten pertussis (whooping cough) had been vaccinated for it at one time. Also, chicken pox is the most ridiculious IMO. Many kids still get the chicken pox and it is laughable to me to call chicken pox dangerous. (tho I"m sure there is an exception to everything).<br><br>
The diseases themselves are not that dangerous.<br><br>
We choose instead to extended BF.. <snip><br>
As for in the hsptl, they will do antibiotics in the eyes, a vitamin K shot, a blood test, some will do a hepB shot. You can opt out of any of them (and anything you are told is mandatory for you or baby, for that matter).<br><br>
edited to add: you also will have to look into circumcision as many hsptls do that as a routine procedure as well - it is extremely painful and not at all necessary and a big money maker. Lots of info on here about it.</div>
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ditto to all this for us. i had both of mine in the hospital, but any more blessings i hope to have at home with a midwife.
 

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Please look at your state law and look for exemptions. Florida has the religious exemption and no one can pry into your religious views. Contact NVIC for information.<br><br><a href="http://www.nvic.org/state-site/state-exemptions.htm" target="_blank">http://www.nvic.org/state-site/state-exemptions.htm</a>
 

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My twins are 100% vax free after months of research I believe that no vaccine is worth the risk...As far as school, every state offers exemptions (pp's have given good links). It is NOT LAW to vaccinate your children, it is your choice. You can refuse, and still attend any state funded public school you want too, even daycares.
 
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