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We just gave birth to a beautiful, 9lb baby girl on Thursday<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy">: (my 1st LO)<br><br>
She's doing great and very eager to nurse. I feel like we're getting the hang of latching on (our MW was impressed with her latch and her sucking at 2 days PP).<br><br>
The MW said her latch looked good and I agree that most of the time it is. But sometimes it feels like she has her bottom lip tucked under (that's where the discomfort is when she nurses). I've tried to lift up my boob to see it (sometimes I can, sometimes I can't really tell if it's in or out) and I've tried to flip the lip out with my finger, but I can't seem to get in there. I'm getting her to open up as wide as I can when she's latching on, but it still seems to be a bit uncomfortable. Any tips on getting a better latch or flipping her lip out?<br><br>
My nipples aren't sore, but they are a little sensitive at times(tingly feeling). <--is that normal or is that how the pain from a bad latch starts?<br><br>
Oh, and one last question--sometimes when she's nursing, she pulls back while she's sucking. Why does she do this? My milk isn't in yet, so I suppose it could be some frustration from not getting a lot, but she is swallowing and getting plenty of poopy dipes. What should I do when she does this? Pull her back closer to me?<br><br>
TIA.....and I'm sure I'll have more questions later<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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oh, i thought of another question: sometimes she'll fall asleep while nursing, but if I start to take her off the breast, she'll want to start sucking again--even if she's been asleep for 5 or 10 minutes.<br><br>
I don't mind keeping her sleeping on the breast sometimes, but I've been so tired just from the birth that I can't always (and shouldn't) stay up, holding her there.<br><br>
What should I do about this? Is it ok to pull her off? I've done side-lying nursing some, but we're still getting the hang of it.
 

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My son was the same way, his bottom lip would always flip in. I found that if I squished my nipple/areola flat and then allowed him to latch, he'd get more in his mouth. I would then pull it out a little causing his lips flange.<br>
HTH
 

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First of all CONGRATS!!! You have just entered the most wonderful time in your life! Understandably, you have a bunch of questions, I will do my best to help, but it sounds like you are doing a GREAT job!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br><br>
First, for perfecting your latch, you might want to wait until she opens up very wide and then, put the bottom of your areola - football hold (or side, if you are doing cradle hold) on the bottom lip of your baby and then flip the rest of the nip into her mouth. Does that make sense? That way, her bottom lip will be flanged out on your nip, and she will have a good amount of boob in her mouth. I used to have to latch DS and then pop his bottom lip out with my finger too.<br><br>
Second, the reason she is pulling is because that is what they do to make the milk come down. Later she will probably also hit your boob with her tiny fist, it is normal, and is similar to baby animals when they head butt their mama. When your milk comes in this may happen less often.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
Second, the reason she is pulling away from you like that is because that is the way babies get milk to come down, kinda like a baby animal would. Later they will bang their little fists on you too to get more out. When your milk comes in this will be less of an issue.<br><br>
Third, for the sucking after she falls asleep. Practice side lying. It will benefit you greatly! It sounds like she is comfort sucking which feels like a flutter suck as opposed to a strong draw when she is eating for real. At this point you can make a decision to give her a paci, or just allow her to comfort suck you until she falls asleep enough for you to slip a finger in the side of her mouth and detatch her. My DS wouldn't take a paci for the first 6 weeks so I had no choice.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br><br>
HTH!!
 

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Frenchy- I was just lurking over here and came across your post!! Congrats on your little one!! I guess she finally decided to come- hurray! I can't wait to read your story.<br><br>
I just read about this in The Baby Book. The technique is called the lower lip flip and it consists of you taking your index finger (of the hand supporting your breast I think) and gently press down on the chin and pull out the lower lip.<br><br>
There is a photo here that might help: <a href="http://www.askdrsears.com/html/2/T021000.asp" target="_blank">http://www.askdrsears.com/html/2/T021000.asp</a><br><br>
I of course don't know if it will work since my babe is still an inside baby, but it seems like something worth trying.
 

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Congratulations on your healthy baby girl<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy">:<br><br>
You say she is producing poopy diapers, is it the dark meconium or th yellow baby poop. if it is yellow your milk is in <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Your nipples may be sore for a while after the birth, that is the hormones but nursing shouldn't hurt and it will go away eventually. i have found that when they latch on it feels sore at first but once they are nursing it should stop. if it doesn't it is probably latch and if not latch then thrush. She also may be pulling back if you have your hand behind her head pushing her on rather than supporting her while she is latching on. Amazingly these newborns can latch on their own without our help just like other mammals, they just need us to support them.<br><br>
Some babies have a need to suck more than others and my first son never wanted to be off the breast but someone once told me it could be an allergy too and he is sensative to milk proteins but I think it's really more personality and he just wnated to comfort nurse. It sounds like you guys are doing well but if you need some local suppot I would recommend finding a La Leche meeting near you <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Good luck with your little precious girl<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy">:
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">My son was the same way, his bottom lip would always flip in. I found that if I squished my nipple/areola flat and then allowed him to latch, he'd get more in his mouth. I would then pull it out a little causing his lips flange.<br>
HTH</div>
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ok... can you explain a bit better *how* you're squishing the nipple/areola? i don't think i'm picturing this right. thanks.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Frenchy- I was just lurking over here and came across your post!! Congrats on your little one!! I guess she finally decided to come- hurray! I can't wait to read your story.<br><br>
I just read about this in The Baby Book. The technique is called the lower lip flip and it consists of you taking your index finger (of the hand supporting your breast I think) and gently press down on the chin and pull out the lower lip.<br><br>
There is a photo here that might help: <a href="http://www.askdrsears.com/html/2/T021000.asp" target="_blank">http://www.askdrsears.com/html/2/T021000.asp</a><br><br>
I of course don't know if it will work since my babe is still an inside baby, but it seems like something worth trying.</div>
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Thanks april! I'll try that.<br>
Don't worry, you'll have your outside baby soon. If you want to go hunt down my birth story (more like a summary), its on the 3rd tri I posted it yesterday afternoon. I'm eventually going to write a more detailed one and post it on here.
 

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anyone else? still having a little trouble...
 

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Ok, imagine how you would hold a hamburger. That is how you hold your breast, squashed thin so the baby can "eat" it. Your boob should be flattened in the same direction as the baby's mouth. That makes the areola narrow enough for the baby to latch.<br><br>
HTH!!
 
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