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DS was born two weeks ago. At first we all thought his breathing problems stemed from a VERY quick birth - i.e. not enough time in the birth canal for the fluid to be squeezed from his lungs - however, he is STILL incredibly congested. At his 2 week check-up we got a few suggestions - propping him up to sleep, saline drops in his nose, the ever-so-"ingenius" bulb syringe, etc. but nothing is working.<br><br>
His breathing is very labored, especially at night and it is affecting his sleep. He gasps and gags and snores throughout the night. I keep checking his nose to see if it looks really stopped up, but it looks pretty clear 9 times out of 10. The congestions is limted to his "head" thankfully, and does not appear to be at all present in his lungs.<br><br>
I'm worried as to what might be causing this. I was exposed to black/toxic mold in weeks 12-24 of my pregnancy, and though I have been told that the baby "should not have any ill effects", I'm not always convinced. Could this at all be from that? DS1 has not shown any problems, and neither have I, but I'm a worrier and this bothers me greatly.<br><br>
Any tips or suggestions? Anyone BTDT with a congested infant? Does it go away? Is it normal? TIA! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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would NAET help???? Have you looked into that?<br><a href="http://www.naet.com/" target="_blank">http://www.naet.com/</a><br><br>
It's a non-invasive (no injections) allergy elmination treatment.<br><br>
My newborn (2nd) was allergic to wheat (shortly after birth, she became very<br>
congested.) The practioner uses muscle testing to determine what it is. Wheat came up. Her congestion cleared up once I stopped eating wheat for a few days. She was cleared for it with 1 treatment.<br><br>
I was thrilled I didn't have to go through any crazy breastfeeding elmination diet to figure it out.<br><br>
I had another friend... her newborn was allergic to COTTON! NAET cleared that too.<br><br>
No way is this normal. Be proactive. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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Thanks so much for that link! I'm going to definitely check it out. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Wonder if chocolate would be causing it? I've eaten a lot of that lately...giving in to cravings I couldn't while pregnant... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"><br><br>
Other than that, I've tried to eat pretty nursing "safe" foods, but I'll re-evaluate. What about peanut butter? Dairy? I've not had a ton of dairy...only a little bit...but I think I'll start a food diary as well as look into the link you posted about.<br><br>
Thanks again!
 

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My ds was born like that...he would wake up constantly due to congestion/gurgling/snorting/rattling, but he never had anything in his nose nor was he sick. I tried eliminating dairy with no result. I took him to 3 MD's who told me it is normal and gave me some saline bullets and the bulb syringe (totally did nothing). Then at around 5 months I took him to a homeopath, and 3 days later he was CLEAR. I was shocked. after 2 weeks it came back again, I gave him the same remedy and in 2 days he was clear again, forever!<br><br>
That's just my story. I do recommend you taking probiotics though (I didn't and wish I had). There is a link between gut and congestion, and you can't go wrong trying that.<br><br>
Congrats on the new little one, they are precious aren't they?! (even upon waking a hundred times at night)
 

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Is it cold where you are? Or dry? Maybe turn the heat down (ours is always on 64 in the winter) and sweater up/use a vaporizer or humidifier. Dry air is tough on breathing passages.
 

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I would eliminate all dairy and nuts from your diet and see if there is a change.<br><br>
Did he get any vaccines after birth?<br>
Vita K ?<br>
Hep B ?<br><br>
Anything could be the cause. But the most likely is a little fluid left in the lungs or allergy to certain foods you are eating.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">My ds was born like that...he would wake up constantly due to congestion/gurgling/snorting/rattling, but he never had anything in his nose nor was he sick. I tried eliminating dairy with no result. I took him to 3 MD's who told me it is normal and gave me some saline bullets and the bulb syringe (totally did nothing). Then at around 5 months I took him to a homeopath, and 3 days later he was CLEAR. I was shocked. after 2 weeks it came back again, I gave him the same remedy and in 2 days he was clear again, forever!<br></div>
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What did your homeopath give you?
 

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My dd has been congested from the moment she arrived. I had an epidural and they broke my water then waited too long to deliver. Now 20 months later we still have the same problems.<br><br>
We’ve tried it all homeopaths conventional meds. We had a barium swallowing test, Upper GI, and muscle testing for allergies . We went to an ENT and found my dd has underdeveloped muscles in her throat making saliva pool at her larynx. Does your ds have any feeding/swallowing problems? My dd ended up with a gtube.<br><br>
You might even check into getting a suction machine. Our ped ordered one for us. We let her sleep in her swing now. She used to sleep in a basinet that we’d elevate by putting a beanbag under it.<br><br>
From my experience saline makes things worse. Cranial-sacral therapy would probably benefit him. Dairy can make you more congested even with no allergy to it. I’d stay away from that. Instead of doing a breastfeeding elimination diet you should simply use muscle testing to find the allergies quickly and without giving up the foods you want.<br><br>
Good luck
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">My dd has been congested from the moment she arrived. I had an epidural and they broke my water then waited too long to deliver. Now 20 months later we still have the same problems.<br><br>
We’ve tried it all homeopaths conventional meds. We had a barium swallowing test, Upper GI, and muscle testing for allergies . We went to an ENT and found my dd has underdeveloped muscles in her throat making saliva pool at her larynx. Does your ds have any feeding/swallowing problems? My dd ended up with a gtube.<br><br>
You might even check into getting a suction machine. Our ped ordered one for us. We let her sleep in her swing now. She used to sleep in a basinet that we’d elevate by putting a beanbag under it.<br><br>
From my experience saline makes things worse. Cranial-sacral therapy would probably benefit him. Dairy can make you more congested even with no allergy to it. I’d stay away from that. Instead of doing a breastfeeding elimination diet you should simply use muscle testing to find the allergies quickly and without giving up the foods you want.<br><br>
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It seems like you've went through an awful lot, all that sounds scary. Was your child so congested that it was interfering with her feeding? My daughter is congested (I can hear it mucking about in her sinuses) and I have been able to suck out boogers every day since I brought her home. I am torn about trying to do all these medical things and 'seeing if she'll grow out of it' because other than the heavier congestion at night, it doesn't seem to be affecting her TOO much...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/guilty.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="guilty">
 

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We've had trouble with DS's congestion too, pretty much on-going from birth as well. I had a quick birth too and he was gurggly from the on-set. He has also had several colds now (mainly thanks to DD bringing them home). I have suspected food issues. Going off dairy didn't make much of a difference, but soy, of all things, did. If you do an elimination diet (which I do recommend trying) make sure to go off soy and dairy at the same time because many people are allergic/intolerant to both. If you can, it is best to eliminate the top 8 allergens at one time for at least two weeks and then add them in back one by one. I also think using saline drops (get Simply Saline which has no preservatives) and the bulb syringe and a humidifier are also great ideas. If your babe is able to sleep for at least a couple of hours at a time and is eating and gaining weight sufficiently, I wouldn't worry too much about it (which I know is easier said then done!). It is normal for their breathing to be somewhat erratic in the beginning, but if you feel like he is really gasping for air, then that is a different story. BTW reflux can also be a cause of congestion. Try propping him upright to sleep if you can. Lastly, hang in there. There first few weeks are tough. I'm sure you are doing a great job!
 

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Have you tried breastmilk in the nose? Helped my DD a lot, through several stuffy noses. Some people use a dropper, I just used a spoon to tip it into her nose. Doesn't get her nearly so upset as saline. I just do it whenever she sounds congested.<br><br>
Instead of bulb syringe, consider the <a href="http://www.thingamababy.com/baby/2007/02/review_nosefrid.html" target="_blank">NoseFrida</a>. I haven't gotten it yet, but I plan to.<br><br>
Definitely use a humidifier if the air is dry, but I'd stay away from vaporizers - imho the eucalyptus and such oils are kind of irritating.<br><br>
As far as dairy sensitivity goes, if the babe has green poops then I'd consider going off dairy. If none of these things work, then I'd consider some more complicated interventions.
 

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ITA 100%. Get rid of the dairy, nuts and peanuts. Soy and eggs next if that doesn't do the trick.<br><br>
Might be reflux, but food allergies/sensitivities often CAUSE the reflux, so the elimination diet may help.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">It seems like you've went through an awful lot, all that sounds scary. Was your child so congested that it was interfering with her feeding? My daughter is congested (I can hear it mucking about in her sinuses) and I have been able to suck out boogers every day since I brought her home. I am torn about trying to do all these medical things and 'seeing if she'll grow out of it' because other than the heavier congestion at night, it doesn't seem to be affecting her TOO much...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/guilty.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="guilty"></div>
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I was told by our ENT that most children do 'grow out of it' by 18 months or so, and that’s in bad cases, so it could possibly be sooner. My dd has lots of issues, such as an underdeveloped brain, global delays. Yes the congestion has interfered with feeding, we are just now starting to feed her solids regularly at 20 months. We tried in the past but always had problems. She never would breastfeed, so I exclusively pumped for 18 months, until I got a yeast infection so bad I was not making enough milk.<br><br>
A gtube was defiantly our last resort and I almost had dss checking up on me because I fought it so much, but now I am very glad we got it, dd is much more happy, as am I.<br><br>
In my dd's case though her congestion has only gotten worse and a medication she is on also worsens it even more, but it is unavoidable because it's for seizures. The congestion is so bad in my dd because of underdeveloped muscles in her throat. I defiantly would not do a medical procedure unless you just had to.
 

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We use the arianna Baby vac. It's much better than the bulb syringe. And, you don't have to suck it out with your own mouth. My 4 month old has a cold at the moment and is really congested. You'd be surprised how much snot comes out of a little nose. <a href="http://www.vickysbabyvac.co.uk/" target="_blank">babyvac</a><br><br>
We use it several times a day to keep the mucus down. Also, the ped told me that a bulb syringe can actually cause trauma to the nasal membranes. The baby vac does not even touch the membranes... check it out...
 
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