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Just a reminder! The next meeting for the House Select Committee on Licensing Midwives is this week!<br><br><b>When:</b> Wednesday March 19th at 1 pm<br><br><b>Where:</b> Legislative Building (16 W. Jones Street, Raleigh), Room 1228<br><br>
Thanks to doctormom for originally posting this info.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">This is potentially a huge step forward for anyone interested in having a homebirth in NC. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><br><br><b>WHAT:</b> The North Carolina General Assembly has formed a House Select Committee on Licensing Midwives, and they are scheduled to meet for the first time on Wed. Feb 13th at 1:00 pm in Raleigh.<br><br>
My understanding is that this is an open meeting and consumers/supporters of midwifery are encouraged to attend. PLEASE JOIN US!<br><br><b>WHY:</b> Currently, only Certified Nurse Midwives (CNMs) are legally recognized in NC; direct-entry midwives (Certified Professional Midwives, or CPMs) are not even recognized or licensed by the state. As a result, CPMs are not able to practice openly or collaborate with physicians or other birth professionals, and are at risk of prosecution for attending homebirths. CNMs are only allowed to attend homebirths IF they can find a physician who is willing to supervise them; the overwhelming majority of OBs oppose homebirth and want it to remain illegal.<br><br>
NCFOM (North Carolina Friends of Midwives) believes that NC needs to license and recognize CPMs and decrease barriers to accessing CNMs in NC, so that women who choose the midwifery model of care (particularly women who want to homebirth with a skilled birth attendant) have that option.<br><br>
Personally, I feel that women should have the right to make their own choice about where & how to birth, and that homebirth with an experienced midwife can actually be safer than a hospital birth filled with unnecessary interventions. For that reason, I am planning to testify before the committee - I am both a physician and a 36-weeks pregnant mom planning a homebirth with a CPM, so I'm looking forward to addressing the fictitious argument that homebirths are somehow more "dangerous" than hospital births. The research I have done over the past year has shown that in fact the opposite is true.<br><br>
The United States has one of the worst newborn mortality rates in the developed world, in spite of having higher per-capita healthcare costs than most other first-world countries. <a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2091rank.html" target="_blank">https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2091rank.html</a> The United States is also the only developed nation in in which the midwifery model has been largely abandoned in favor of using OBs and hospital births. Hm. Coincidence?! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/headscratch.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="headscratch"><br><br>
If you would like more information, please visit <b><span style="color:#000080;"><a href="http://www.ncfom.org" target="_blank">www.ncfom.org</a></span></b> and feel free to join the discussion group on Yahoo. We would love to pack the room with midwife/homebirth supporters, and show our legislative representatives that this is an issue we care passionately about. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br><br><br><br><i>"Home birth is not the only way to acheive a natural birth, but midwifery care is strongly suggested because Obstetricians are trained *surgeons*. Having a highly trained Obstetrical Surgeon attend a normal birth is analogous to having a Pediatric Surgeon babysit a healthy 2 year old."<br>
--- Marsden Wagner, MD (neonatology), former Director of Women's and Children's Health for the World Health Organization.</i></div>
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I will be there as long as I am not at a birth! If I am not there, that is why!
 

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I wish I could attend the meeting. For all of you that are going to attend, thank you for making a difference for us here in NC!!!
 

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<span>Wish I could attend- I don't live in NC now, but I'm from there. I live in VA now- and one thing that's preventing us from moving back yet is that I want to have our next child before we sell our house so I can use direct-entry MW legally!!<br><br>
I'll call my mom (a doula/Bradley instructor) & let her know- maybe she can go! Thanks for the info & thanks to those of you making a difference there!! Luck & prayers.</span>
 

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Did anyone here attend the meeting yesterday? Just wondering what the turnout was like and if someone could provide any details?
 

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I went. I didn't go to the first one, so I don't know how it compares, but I thought this one went pretty well.<br><br>
The first couple of speakers didn't really seem to do much either way. Then they had a woman from NARM (I think) speak. She's in charge of the testing and certifying of CPM's. She really knew her stuff. She presented her info clearly and confidently. When she was done, the representatives asked her a lot of questions and she handled them well. She was very helpful.<br><br>
The last speaker was opposed and he showed it clearly. He repeated several statistics, but changed the numbers each time. He discounted well documented studies, but cited his own independent study. He kept referring to a CPM as a "high school dropout" because they are not required to have a degree. I think he was mostly arguing against homebirth, not whether CPM's should be legalized. He said at the end that having a homebirth was like driving a car without a seat belt. Not safe, but some people do it anyway. I was really glad to hear someone ask if the CPM could be that seatbelt. The audience loved that. It seemed like his presentation was designed to inspire fear. Not educate with valid information. I'm pretty sure the representatives recognized his "crap" for what it was. One of them asked him if CPM's were legalized, would he be interested in overseeing them, and boy his head blew up like a hot air balloon! Another one, reminded him that this committee is determining whether CPM's should legally be able to attend homebirths. Not whether homebirths should occur. His arguments were more to the point that they should not occur. Overall, for those who want CPM's legalized, this guy was great, because he really did the opposition no good at all.<br><br>
The crowd was pretty good size I'd say. There were very few empty seats. A friend of mine went with me. She doesn't have any kids or much exposure to them. She was really surprised at how quiet a room with so many babies and small children could be. She was really impressed with the family in the back. They had 5 little ones. The oldest around 6 I'd guess. They were quieter and better behaved than the group of men sitting near them. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><br><br>
They didn't know when the next meeting would be set, but I hope I get to be there for it.<br><br>
I know there had to be other MDC moms there. I'd like to hear what you think too.
 

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Thank you for the update, sounds like it went well! I hope to attend any future meetings.<br><br>
Do you know (or is there anywhere to read about) when this issue will be voted on? If CPMs become legal I wonder when that would go into effect? I'm sure there would be a lot more red tape before they could legally be allowed to attend homebirths. Yay, progress!
 

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I don't know when the vote will be. She said at the beginning of the meeting yesterday, that they would not vote that day, but she did not indicate when the vote would be. She didn't even have the date for the next meeting but said she would send it out. I don't know how to find that, either. I guess I need to research that next. I'd like to read about it too. If you find it, please post links.
 

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After being at both meetings, I really feel like we have a good chance of having the committee recommend to the legislature that we license CPMs. The oppositional groups are not coming to the meetings very well prepared, with backup evidence or even handouts (not at the first or second meetings).<br>
The OB who spoke at the second meeting (when you would have expected increased professionalism and preparedness) was even more inflammatory than the first oppositional speakers had been! The questions that the legislators are asking are not usually critical but more often procedural--"if we licensed CPMs, what body would issue licenses, keep track of home birth statistics, and provide mediation?"<br><br>
To my knowledge the committee may keep having meetings until November, but they have the option of issuing a recommendation in May if the committee is all in agreement that soon. I haven't heard about a third meeting being scheduled yet--join the NCFOM yahoo group if you want to know as soon as it's planned. (<a href="http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NCFOM/?yguid=194752623" target="_blank">http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...guid=194752623</a>)<br><br>
The soonest a law could be <i>introduced</i> is spring 2009 (long session), and if it makes it out of committee, it could be voted on some time in 2009 or 2010 (short session). As for taking effect, I don't know how long it would take for the regulative bodies to be set up--hopefully no more than a few months. So, very optimistically, the earliest we could have licensed CPMs practicing in NC is maybe late 2009, but it will probably take longer (perhaps years, multiple sessions, etc).
 
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