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Ok, I don't often post in this forum, only when I need help....<br><br>
I cloth diapered my dd, and never had any trouble with cloth leaking. (and at this age with her--3 mos.--we used CPFs) We use fitted diapers now, and I never had those leak with her either. Well, overnight ds is a different story all together. He leaks with the fitted, he leaks with a fitted and CPF added, he leaks with a 7th Generation 'sposie, he leaks with a "mainstream" 'sposie, he leaks with a 'sposie covered with nylon waterproof cover. I searched for night time and leaking on these boards and found several threads with advice. The name that kept coming up was Luke's Drawers Goodnight Kisses. I ordered some of these EXPENSIVE diapers. Washed one up. Tried it out. What did we have this morning, but wet jammies and sheets. Grrr. WHAT will work on this guy???? Any thoughts?<br>
He's 3 mos, we co sleep, and he begs to go to bed around 7 and easily nurses back to sleep through the night until he wakes for good about 8:15 am. I can't complain about that, and don't want to mess it all up by changing him when we're all cozy. But this one was leaky before 7:30 this morning, which I think is why he woke up.<br><br>
What to do?
 

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I think that diaper needs more washing then just 1 time to get it really at it's peak pee sucking power. I would not give up yet but would wash it a few more times. I know you probably already know all of this but just in the off chance your don't here are some common reason for dipe leaking:<br><br>
*Improper fit is most likely the biggest cause. Is the diaper very snug against the legs and waist? Is the inner soaker or doubler (if they have one) snug against baby (especially importatnt for fleece covers soakers on inners)?<br><br>
*Not enough washings. Has the diaper been washed 5 times yet? Usually that is when a diaper will start to really perform. All the fabric conditioners and waxes are out then.<br>
Was it washed with any fabric softeners or enhancers???<br><br>
HTHs and please excuse my typos but I am dealing with a migraine right now and don't feel like correcting my mistakes.
 

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I was also going to suggest an Aristocrat. My ds leaked through sposies, too before we switched to cloth. When I finally made the switch we had nighttime leaking for awhile until I got the Aristocrat. Now I use the Aristocrat with a Super Polar Babies hemp perfold with a hemp doubler for night. It does the trick<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> No more leaking! Hope you find your nighttime solution.
 

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my son nurses all nite too. i love my lukes goodnite kisses! i bought it used and just tried it for the first time the other nite. i'm assuming it is VERY broken in!<br><br>
other than that i use crickett hemp dipes with another doubler added under a wool cover. he wakes up soaked but clothes and sheets are dry! he used to wake up drenched in sposies.<br><br>
hth!<br><br>
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Thanks for the quick responses. I'll keep trying it. Maybe it does need more washing. I didn't want to wash all three that I bought in case they don't work. I'll try that. I wash in Bio-Kleen and don't use any other junk in the wash. One thing that I forgot to mention, and I don't know if this matters is that the leak is ALWAYS on his right side in the back. I imagine it's just how he lies, but not sure.<br><br>
And Oh, yes, this has soakers/doublers. The damn thing is bigger than his head. He has a big head.<br><br>
And he WAS freaking out as I got him ready for bed last night, so maybe I didn't get it on as straight and snug as it should have been.<br><br>
I'll keep trying.<br><br>
If these don't work, I'll move on to an Aristocrat maybe. How many of those do you need to have on hand? More than one? I understand you don't wash those much?
 

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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;"><i>Originally posted by KFH</i><br><b>One thing that I forgot to mention, and I don't know if this matters is that the leak is ALWAYS on his right side in the back. I imagine it's just how he lies, but not sure.<br><br>
And Oh, yes, this has soakers/doublers. The damn thing is bigger than his head. He has a big head.<br><br>
And he WAS freaking out as I got him ready for bed last night, so maybe I didn't get it on as straight and snug as it should have been.<br></b></td>
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I bet it is not snug against him and it gaped and that was the cause of your leaks. If it lined in fleece that makes it worse.
 

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I only have one Aristocrat. You only have to wash it once every 1-2 weeks. When mine is drying I use a Happy Heiny that is stuffed beyond belief!
 

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I don't think washing it more is going to help in your case. You have an extremely heavy wetter. Do you have any hemp doublers you could add to it?<br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Now I use the Aristocrat with a Super Polar Babies hemp perfold with a hemp doubler for night. It does the trick No more leaking! Hope you find your nighttime solution.</td>
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I think the person who said this found her solution in the Super Polar Babies hemp prefold with the hemp doubler. She probably would not need the Aristocrat. A Mother Ease Air Flow or Rikki cover or Alexis Pull on pant would probably get her through the night as well. If she could fit it all in a pocket diaper (maybe not) that would probably work for her as well). In fact, when you have a wetter that soaks a diaper till it's dripping, wool is not my cover of choice because if the babe rests in one position for too long, the pee eventually compresses right through the wool, even the Aristocrat. But if you have plenty of diaper under it, the Aristocrat is great, because it breathes and fits over a LOT of diaper. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br>
Here would be my suggestions for you:<br>
Super (biggest) Polar Babies hemp fleece prefold<br>
Biggest Babykicks hemp fleece prefold<br>
Premium (biggest) Samuel's Soaker hemp flat fold from <a href="http://www.mom-and-me-creations.com" target="_blank">www.mom-and-me-creations.com</a><br>
Nighty Newt from <a href="http://www.littlelounginglizzards.com" target="_blank">www.littlelounginglizzards.com</a><br>
I've heard that Firefly Sleep Tight diaper is a good fitted for nights, but I have not tried it. I would bet you would still need an additional hemp doubler with it if it were to work for you.<br>
One of the above WITH a microfleece topped hemp fleece doubler with a wrap or pull on cover. Some of the prefolds above have to be pinned or else used in a wrap or pocket diaper because they can't be snappied. The Samuel's Soaker is somewhat snappiable and the Nighty Newt is snappiable (but a little narrow).<br><br>
I've already mentioned in passing what covers I think work well.
 

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I had this problem with my baby. Does yours sleep on his/her side? I could not use a wrap or AIO even if it was designed for night use. I typically have success with a cover like the Airflow or other side-snapping covers, but they too will eventually leak out the side at times.<br><br>
What I found that always works.......ALWAYS for us is either a wool soaker or nylon pants......basically something in a pull on style. I find that if your wool is properly lanolized and there is enough dipe underneath, you will not have compression wicking. And, for nylon pants, I personally prefer the ones from Babies R Us. They are $4 for a two pack and I have never had any wicking or leaks....period. I did have wicking with the Bummis at the binding.<br><br>
As for the diaper, I can use a good fitted with a doubler, but mostly I use a premium cpf with an infant one trifolded in the crotch and a fleece liner.<br><br>
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We have found using a wool liner helps TREMENDOUSLY with nighttime leaks. It has made SUCH a difference for us. Two nights ago, all of mine were in the wash, so I substituted an extra hemp doubler. We had a leak. Last night, same exact set up, minus the hemp doubler but with the wool liner, no leaks. You can also machine wash and dry the liners -- they're great felted!
 

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This hasn't been suggested, so I thought I'd just throw it into the mix. Are you pointing his penis down when you put the diaper on? I found I needed to do this with Isaac when he was younger or he would leak out the back of any diapering combo (even my absolute fail-safe: a pinned prefold and pull-on nylon pants). Now that he's older I don't need to be so careful. Just thought I'd mention it...
 

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We nurse throughout the night, too, for about 12 hours, and DS is mostly on his side. I've had a lot of success with a medium FuzziBunz stuffed with two medium Joey Bunz Hemparoos. I just make sure the legs aren't gapping when I put it on. I haven't had a leak yet! And it's trim enough to fit under his sleepers! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Kermit, thanks for your suggestions (everyone, really). I'll look at some of those options.<br><br>
Sandijones, I haven't tried a wool soaker. I'm not sure I've even heard of that option. Where would I find one. (Maybe I just haven't paid attention to them, and they're widely available?) I too, like the nylon pants from Babies R Us, they're made by dappi, and they are good. Alexis pants don't wick either, but are getting difficult to find since the company has discontinued it's diaper cover line. Seemed that even if that brand was loose at the legs, they keep all inside. I tried to buy more at our BRUS yesterday, but they had VERY limited sizes...NO medums, which I'd want for the extra bulk. One small and a zillion newborns. They were quite unhelpful, saying that item could NOT be special ordered, and there was no way of knowing when more would arrive, that I would have to just keep checking....like I have time for that crap!<br><br>
Engineermama, check, his penis is down.<br><br><br>
My only experience with hemp has been in the form of the hemp/cotton combo in Sugar Peas diapers. I know these are extrordinairly popular here, but I must say I've been highly disappointed. These have become the absolute last ones I reach for. These things seem to be dripping wet in no time. They're awful.<br><br>
Update....I washed and dried the Goodnight Kisses again yesterday, and put them on good and snug, and they leaked again.<br><br>
Thanks everyone...
 

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I would recommend trying a Stacinator So Simple cover. It is absolutely the most leak-proof and wick-proof thing we've found. I prefer wool's breathability for night, but the So Simple is unbeatable for preventing leaks.<br><br>
I also recommend lots of hemp inside.<br><br>
Good luck!!
 

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wool wool wool wool wool woooooooool<br><br>
I reckon anyway. I thought I had a super peepee boy 'cos nothing worked at night. I layered on the hemp untill he had a butt like a basketball. Then I got a Stacinator wool {sigh}<br><br>
Maybe one leak in 4 months....(operater error)<br><br>
I keep taking out the doublers, and it keeps working. He is NO super peepee boy, he's a dribbler....Hooray the wool.<br><br>
Actually ME airflow usually worked too, but left horrid red marks, so I say go find a sheep to shear.....<br><br>
(No harm to sheep intended)<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 
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