My daughter wakes ALOT at night. What I want is for her to be able to sleep better during the night but I still want to be able to nurse her to sleep at bedtime. it sounds like this plan wants you not to nurse them to sleep anymore? Is it worth the money?
No-Cry Sleep Solution - worth the money?
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I think it's a good read, although I have come to believe there is no miracle cure.<br><br>
Have you tried getting it through your library?<br><br>
Before you buy full price, do some websearching - I know you're in Canada, so shipping may be more, but for example <a href="http://www.half.com" target="_blank">www.half.com</a> has a copy for $12.79 incl. media mail shipping; Amazon has a used copy listed for $7.50 plus shipping and lists it for $10.47 new (and free shipping on orders over $25). Also check out <a href="http:" target="_blank">www.addall.com,</a> which will let you comparison shop bookstores on the net.
Have you tried getting it through your library?<br><br>
Before you buy full price, do some websearching - I know you're in Canada, so shipping may be more, but for example <a href="http://www.half.com" target="_blank">www.half.com</a> has a copy for $12.79 incl. media mail shipping; Amazon has a used copy listed for $7.50 plus shipping and lists it for $10.47 new (and free shipping on orders over $25). Also check out <a href="http:" target="_blank">www.addall.com,</a> which will let you comparison shop bookstores on the net.
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Yes, I thought it was also a good book. Although I actully got it when my son was sleeping through the night and now he's not..... although that mainly has to do with teething. But the suggestions make sense and it's good whether you co-sleep, breastfeed, use a pacifier or whatever your situation is.
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I got the book when my 2 1/2 yr old was feeding ALL night, I was so exhausted and at the end of my tether. I didn't think the book would work- but I did the plan really slowly ( I was trying to wean as well) And she wimpered on the first night for about 20 mins, and that was it. (She is now a happy 3 1/2 yr old- secure and well balanced)<br><br>
What I also did when she was going to sleep was tell her a story about a baby bear who no longer needed mummy's milk to go to sleep, and if baby bear woke in the night she could see that mommy bear was there, and she would snuggle back in bed and go to sleep. That she was loved and safe and warm in her cosy bed.<br><br>
Kind of like a hypnotic suggestion as she was going to sleep and it worked so well I can't tell you. When I have my next baby I will start the plan from 4 months old to help it go that much easier next time round.<br><br>
Hope this helps x<br>
~Amanda~
What I also did when she was going to sleep was tell her a story about a baby bear who no longer needed mummy's milk to go to sleep, and if baby bear woke in the night she could see that mommy bear was there, and she would snuggle back in bed and go to sleep. That she was loved and safe and warm in her cosy bed.<br><br>
Kind of like a hypnotic suggestion as she was going to sleep and it worked so well I can't tell you. When I have my next baby I will start the plan from 4 months old to help it go that much easier next time round.<br><br>
Hope this helps x<br>
~Amanda~
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I thought it was a very helpful book, but like most sleep books, it's not the big Cure All it kind of claims to be. The main suggestions are sandwhiched in the middle of the book and it seemed to me like half the book was just a lot of padding--the beginning talked about baby sleep patterns and how much this book is going to help, and the end of it got into keeping baby sleep journals. I believe she only discourages nightly breastfeeding if it has become a problem and is keeping you from getting sleep you want.
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hhhmm. That sounded a bit harsh. I still think it was the most helpful compared to any other sleep book or sleep chapter I've read. I liked her gradual approach, and it seems so rare that I find a book which really takes co-sleeping into account.<br>
Sort of on topic, SO many people recommended _Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child_ by a Dr. Weissbluth to me. Lordy I hated that book. There were still a few tips in it, but he's a big CIO advocate and his language is harsh (calling babies "fussy brats" and referring to some "screaming their brains out" nice.) and his tone a bit scary (if your child doesn't sleep well he'll be a bad student and adult insomniac! alert! alert!). So I wouldn't recommend that one, heh.
Sort of on topic, SO many people recommended _Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child_ by a Dr. Weissbluth to me. Lordy I hated that book. There were still a few tips in it, but he's a big CIO advocate and his language is harsh (calling babies "fussy brats" and referring to some "screaming their brains out" nice.) and his tone a bit scary (if your child doesn't sleep well he'll be a bad student and adult insomniac! alert! alert!). So I wouldn't recommend that one, heh.
What in particular did you all follow in the book? I've recently read it and started implementing the popping off the boob before ds is asleep strategy. We are only a few weeks into it, but I'm desparately tired and it isn't working yet. Ds is waking every hour or two to nurse all night long. I'm so tired and feeling at wits end.
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Well I got it when DS was about 5 months old and a terrible sleeper and terrible napper (very short naps)<br><br>
Here is how it helped me (but I agree, not a cure-all, but I don't think she ever claims it is--we still have bad sleep problems though)<br><br>
1) watching for tired signs and getting him to nap earlier in the day, soon after he woke up. Using that "intervention" after 20 minutes to get him back to sleep so he would sleep longer. Now he takes 1 hour naps, sometimes 2 hour<br><br>
2) Bedtime routine. We used to have a half-hearted routine and now we are very strict with it. He is pretty good about going to sleep at his bedtime, around 8pm.<br><br>
3) The "gentle removal" has not worked so well with us. If I try he totally wakes up and sits up and crawls away, screaming. he doesn't just keep rooting like she says--he fully wakes up!<br><br>
I am actually thinking of doing the "temperate" crying solution that she describes in the "if you are at your wits end" section because nothing else is working, which is kind of like the Dr Jay Gordon nightweaning plan. (DS is 10 months old almost now)<br><br>
The main idea of the book is that you have to develop a plan for your family. This is kind of hard to figure out--there are no rules for it, just some guidelines. So I think it takes a lot of trial and error to figure out what works. And it takes a lot of time.<br><br>
Our problem is that he keeps getting sick or teething just at the time we are starting to see some changes, so we're back to the starting point again. It is very aggravating! I'd suggest getting the book out of the library or used on amazon or something. You will want to xerox the log sheets.<br><br>
Good luck!!
Here is how it helped me (but I agree, not a cure-all, but I don't think she ever claims it is--we still have bad sleep problems though)<br><br>
1) watching for tired signs and getting him to nap earlier in the day, soon after he woke up. Using that "intervention" after 20 minutes to get him back to sleep so he would sleep longer. Now he takes 1 hour naps, sometimes 2 hour<br><br>
2) Bedtime routine. We used to have a half-hearted routine and now we are very strict with it. He is pretty good about going to sleep at his bedtime, around 8pm.<br><br>
3) The "gentle removal" has not worked so well with us. If I try he totally wakes up and sits up and crawls away, screaming. he doesn't just keep rooting like she says--he fully wakes up!<br><br>
I am actually thinking of doing the "temperate" crying solution that she describes in the "if you are at your wits end" section because nothing else is working, which is kind of like the Dr Jay Gordon nightweaning plan. (DS is 10 months old almost now)<br><br>
The main idea of the book is that you have to develop a plan for your family. This is kind of hard to figure out--there are no rules for it, just some guidelines. So I think it takes a lot of trial and error to figure out what works. And it takes a lot of time.<br><br>
Our problem is that he keeps getting sick or teething just at the time we are starting to see some changes, so we're back to the starting point again. It is very aggravating! I'd suggest getting the book out of the library or used on amazon or something. You will want to xerox the log sheets.<br><br>
Good luck!!
I've followed my plan for almost 3 months and unfortunately it hasn't helped us at all. Some nights our baby sleeps well, but mostly she is up 3 or 4 times at night (she is almost 5 months old). I thought the book was mostly a collection of tips I have read elsewhere. Although since I am a very organized person I loved the sleep log section -- just filling them out makes me feel I am doing something to help the situation!<br><br>
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I read this and started implementing it when 8 month old dd was waking almost every hour. I had to do something. After about a week, she was only getting up three times which seemed like a dream. Now she seems to have leveled out at about four times. Our big problem is that after 4 am, if I try to do anything but nurse her, she wakes up and wants to play. She usually wakes at least 3 times between 3:30 and 7 to nurse! Not sure what the solution is for that!<br><br>
I use the pull off suggestion. I wait until dd has stopped sucking and it usually takes three tries before she stops rooting which is sad but so very cute that I always have to smile. Her mouth is open and her eyes are closed and she stretches her neck. Adorable. I try to put her in her down while she is still a bit awake and I use a verbal cue (sleep baby girl sleep). I also gave her a little rabbit (the one from Goodnight Moon) to sleep with. We also use a long bedtime routine that I think is more for dh and I than dd. We love the bath and the massage. By the time we get to reading, dd is usually ready to skip everything and go right to nursing!<br><br>
I'm not sure how much it helped and how much of the change was just a this too shall pass thing. My dh and I are trying to schedule some time to talk about moving to the next phase. But after almost four weeks, we are no where near giving verbal cues from the door! I am also not interested in nightweaning yet. I love being with dd in the middle of the night. I am interested in partial night weaning. I think I could handle three wakings and still get enough sleep but anything more than that and I am really tired!<br><br>
I would recommend the book just for the different suggestions. It at least makes you feel like you are doing something.
I use the pull off suggestion. I wait until dd has stopped sucking and it usually takes three tries before she stops rooting which is sad but so very cute that I always have to smile. Her mouth is open and her eyes are closed and she stretches her neck. Adorable. I try to put her in her down while she is still a bit awake and I use a verbal cue (sleep baby girl sleep). I also gave her a little rabbit (the one from Goodnight Moon) to sleep with. We also use a long bedtime routine that I think is more for dh and I than dd. We love the bath and the massage. By the time we get to reading, dd is usually ready to skip everything and go right to nursing!<br><br>
I'm not sure how much it helped and how much of the change was just a this too shall pass thing. My dh and I are trying to schedule some time to talk about moving to the next phase. But after almost four weeks, we are no where near giving verbal cues from the door! I am also not interested in nightweaning yet. I love being with dd in the middle of the night. I am interested in partial night weaning. I think I could handle three wakings and still get enough sleep but anything more than that and I am really tired!<br><br>
I would recommend the book just for the different suggestions. It at least makes you feel like you are doing something.
Hi,<br><br>
I'm new to these boards and actually logged in in an attempt to find out if anyone has had any luck with The No-Cry Sleep Solution, and if so how long it took till your baby was "sleeping through the night" My six month old nurses 3-4 in the night and I am exhausted. I will be weaning him completely this month anyway, but I doubt formula is going to make that much of a difference as he already get a few bottles a day anyway (one at 11 PM). I just started the author's methods and need to know if this thing will bring results.<br><br>
Thanks moms!
I'm new to these boards and actually logged in in an attempt to find out if anyone has had any luck with The No-Cry Sleep Solution, and if so how long it took till your baby was "sleeping through the night" My six month old nurses 3-4 in the night and I am exhausted. I will be weaning him completely this month anyway, but I doubt formula is going to make that much of a difference as he already get a few bottles a day anyway (one at 11 PM). I just started the author's methods and need to know if this thing will bring results.<br><br>
Thanks moms!
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Harper we have the same problem--most of the night wakings are after 3am until 6 when he finally wakes up. It's every half hour!!<br><br>
I honestly think that starting this plan between 8-10 months is not such a good idea because of the separation anxiety issue. I think you might actually have better luck with a younger baby, say 5-7 months, who can't crawl off the bed when he/she gets mad in the night!
I honestly think that starting this plan between 8-10 months is not such a good idea because of the separation anxiety issue. I think you might actually have better luck with a younger baby, say 5-7 months, who can't crawl off the bed when he/she gets mad in the night!
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A big <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"> for the No Cry Sleep Solution! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> Of course I lent it out & now could use it! Oh well.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/oops.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="oops">T petekate, is there any reason you're weaning? There is some great help over on the breastfeeding boards if you need any advice/help. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hippie.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hippie">
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