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We were at our WIC recert today, and the nurse was asking me all the usual questions (my favorite-does she regularly eat paint chips or laundry detergent? to which my answer is only if she behaves in public <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Really what kind of question is that?) Back on topic, they were telling me about how I needed to start her on cereal, then veggies, then fruit, and then at 9 monthes I should start giving her finger foods (but only between meals of baby food ??) I told her she already eats finger foods, and we are not doing cereal. She probably thinks I have some sort of child prodigy with pincher grasp and getting every single bit in her mouth <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> I'm sure she'd cringe if she came to my house. Esp. if she knew DD only gets these finger foods every other day or so at dinner. Usually she just gets spoons to play with and a cup of water.
 

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I have found WIC to be a best pointless and at worst full of bad information. (I know many moms that are thankful for their services, it just wasn't for me.)<br><br>
The "free" food that they allow you are lots of things that you probably should not be eating or feeding to your baby (super processed cereal and how many gallons of cows milk?)<br><br>
I too got the advice of starting DD on solids way to early and was looked at as weird because I was going to nurse past one year. I seem to remember talk about giving DD vitamins since she was not eating solids regularly.<br><br>
And BTW I was made a little uncomfortable by all the signs directing me to the nursing room. Of all the places NIPing should be OK. Isn't it setting a good example to the other moms who are pregnant and deciding if they will nurse?
 

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Wow - what crummy advice! Glad you knew better! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I have found WIC to be a best pointless and at worst full of bad information. (I know many moms that are thankful for their services, it just wasn't for me.)<br><br>
The "free" food that they allow you are lots of things that you probably should not be eating or feeding to your baby (super processed cereal and how many gallons of cows milk?)<br><br>
I too got the advice of starting DD on solids way to early and was looked at as weird because I was going to nurse past one year. I seem to remember talk about giving DD vitamins since she was not eating solids regularly.<br><br>
And BTW I was made a little uncomfortable by all the signs directing me to the nursing room. Of all the places NIPing should be OK. Isn't it setting a good example to the other moms who are pregnant and deciding if they will nurse?</div>
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My BIL gets my cereal, and our friends use all of the juicy juice for chasers at parties <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/duck.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Duck">: We do use a lot of milk, cheese, peanut butter, carrots, and a little tuna. I wish you could buy organic though.<br><br>
I usually just nod, but I just decided to give her a vague answer that kept us both happy <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> DD1 didn't nurse past 9 months, so I don't know about the vitamins, but I know DD wont get them <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue"><br><br>
I know what you mean about the nursing room. In my old town, they once told me I HAD to use the nursing room b/c some people are uncomfortable seeing that. Luckily, the one I went to yesterday, in my new town, didn't say anything about me nursing, and I walked through the office while feeding her. The new office had <b>3</b> TV's on, one in every waiting room (one when you first come in, one while the labs come in <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: and then one for while you wait to check out) DD never watches TV, so I was rather upset by this. Then of course when they are doing the check up thing, they warn you to limit your childs TV time <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:
 

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Or you can just say ok and let them think you are doing what they say...Also you can sneak in organic carrots. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/carrot.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="carrot"> We do it every time and they never said we cant get it. I also get natural peanut butter (the regular is GRRROSS imo!!). They are also supposed to be changing the food allotment, like dairy alternatives <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbsup"> (not sure what else....)
 

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Really? What store do youy go to? I'll have to try that next time <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Yeah you should try it. It all which manager is on that day. We once got Peace cereal and some other cereal from the natural section even though youre not allowed. I also snuck in a half gallon of non hormone milk once <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="innocent">.<br>
We go to Wegmans but that is only in western New York.
 

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I'll have to try it at Kroger. I used to shop at Walmart in my old town (lack of options without driving 20 more minutes) But now there is a Krogers and a Natural Food Store (I've yet to check out) Much closer to the house, as well as an EW James. I am working on avoiding Walmart, but DH is one of th "just go to walmart, they have everything" types <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked"><br>
Usually I go by myself, so I go where I feel like <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br>
As long as not too many people try it, otherwise the store can lose their WIC licence, thats why Walmart is so strict about it.
 

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I end up giving the baby cereal and juices away and the milk too. My friend's dh is unemployed and they use all that stuff. So I just give it to them. They are on WIC too. We use the cereal to make chex mix and rice crispy treats because nobody here really eats cereal as cereal.
 

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My wic experience was pretty different... except that the food is still pretty crappy.<br><br>
The office here has pro breastfeeding stuff all over the walls, and there is no nursing room in sight. They did go out of their way to make me feel pretty stupid. The conversation we had about what kind of bread we eat was funny...<br><br>
Them: How many slices of bread do they eat a day?<br>
Me: Oh, I don't know... maybe 2-4 a few days a week.<br>
Them: Is it whole grain bread?<br>
Me: Yeah, I make it myself.<br>
Them: No, I mean, is it whole grain bread.<br>
Me: ...Yeeeeees. I make it myself. Out of flour. And other things.<br>
Them: But what kind of flour? Is it whoooooooooole graaaaaaaaaaaaaaain?<br>
Me: YES!! We make rye and whole wheat etc. etc. etc.<br>
Them: Okay, just make sure when they have bread that it's whole grain, not white bread...<br>
Me: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
Then we're mostly vegan, and at least when we do dairy it sure as heck isn't the factory farmed sort. So I tell them that we don't drink milk and can't use the eggs. All they could do was give me (this is between my two daughters) SEVEN POUNDS of cheese. They absolutely would NOT give me more beans or peanutbutter. Just cheese. Then there are the are you getting enough protein questions.<br><br>
Has anyone else refused the blood test in the office?? The lady there the last time started getting ready to prick my little girl and I was like... what are you doing?? She said they test for iron for everyone. I don't remember this happening at the office in Phila that I went to. She wanted to know if I would promise to get it done with my ped, but I don't see how that's any of their business. I mean, I know they are supposed to be looking out for their health, but geez.<br><br>
We use the juice for baking or ice pops in the summer, if we get them at all. I get massive amounts of oatmeal with the cereal coupons, and I use up the farmers market vouchers REAL FAST. During the winter, I don't even bother.
 

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We use pretty much everything they give us (except cheese and baby cereal) there is no way we can eat all the cheese they give us LOL.. and there is no way my kids are going to get that baby cereal crap within their reach. yuck! Anyways, we are very tight on money so it helps and I put up with the bullcrap because we need it.<br><br>
They ask me for 2 things every time I go in.. 1 shot records 2 hemocrit or whatever the blood thing is they are checking.. we dont do either<br><br>
I dont vaccinate and so they give in on that because I have a religious exemption.. but they still ask every visit<br><br>
Im not going to stick my child with a needle to make them happy.. My kids are showing no signs of anemia so f that! There is no way! I get the run around about how I need to get it done and that my kids could be sick and stuff?!? I dunno.. but its sooo friggen annoying!<br><br>
And yes, my WIC office has tvs on everytime and they are on Soap Operas (exactly what I want my child to watch.. drama!), they tell me about NEEDING to start solids and crap, and they just drive me nutty
 

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If they had soaps on, at least DD wouldnt watch it. They had winnie the pooh, barney, and nickolodeon. I turned one off while we were in the room, b/c there were no other kids in there, and I HATE barney
 

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Because craving non-food items is a sign of anemia.<br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pica_(disorder)" target="_blank">Pica</a>
 

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Has anyone else refused the blood test in the office?? The lady there the last time started getting ready to prick my little girl and I was like... what are you doing?? She said they test for iron for everyone. I don't remember this happening at the office in Phila that I went to. She wanted to know if I would promise to get it done with my ped, but I don't see how that's any of their business. I mean, I know they are supposed to be looking out for their health, but geez.</div>
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That's strange. I have never seen this done at our WIC office.<br><br>
My experience with WIC has been very positive actually. I initially went for breastfeeding support and they encouraged me to apply for WIC while I was there. I use most of the stuff they give, with the exception of the cheese. I dont even come close to using the 1 pound per month quota so I had it changed to more milk (which was my only choice since they have to replace it with another diary product.) I usually end up giving the extra milk to family. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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we get WIC too. Last time with DS I gave the baby cereal to my SIL who has a home daycare.<br>
I had them max us out on cheese but I think I will switch back to a little more cow's milk and give more to my mom and dad cause we're overloaded on cheese. Sometimes I cut up the cheese, buy a box of crackers, and bring it to LLL meetings as a snack contribution, <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
next time I'm supposed to be getting some tomato juice instead of all the fruit juice, we come nowhere near consuming all that and I use t-juice for cooking sometimes. I am also going to see if they will change my jar of PB to another bag o beans as we can't buy non hydrogenated PB.<br>
We use the beans all the time, it's the one *healthy* thing they give, since I learned how to do them overnight in the crockpot. I buy black beans and chickpeas every month, I think we get 2 bags?<br><br>
The great thing is we get goat's milk for DS, which is so expensive there's no other way we could afford it. And I get a free pump to use while I'm working, so DD has been able to have nothing but breastmilk. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><br>
There are no TV's and no nursing rooms at the office here. They don't care where you bf. I always get asked if I still am though.<br><br>
2 rants--first being the way they ask if I'm 'still' nursing--for God's sake she is THREE MONTHS OLD not 3 years or something! from what I overhear though it is sadly a valid question. Also, the last time I was there, the woman asked me if I was trying to lose weight. I said, well, not really, I didn't think you were supposed to diet while nursing. She goes "well, there *is* a safe way to do it..." and I go "well, I'm just trying to eat healthy, avoid junk, and keep breastfeeding" and she goes OK...I think she at least did mention something along the lines of bf'ing helping.<br>
I'm not *that* overweight--I weigh probably 15 pounds more than I did before I got pregnant, which I think I did then too, and that was last month. Who the he** has actually lost all the weight when their babe is two months old anyway?!<br><br>
And my second rant is on the juice. yeah, why DO they give all that juice? my last appt. was me and DS, the lady who saw him handed me a pamphlet with info regarding feeding your toddler, then writes on the back and cautions me not to give him more than 11 ounces of juice a day. I'm mentally going "11 ounces?! I just told you he has maybe 3 oz at a time and not even daily--along with going dang *I* don't drink 11 oz a day and I'm what 4 times his size?"<br>
It gets better--I get home and actually read the pamphlet, and *IT* says not to give your child more than 4 to 6 oz of juice a day!!!!!!!<br>
(now I'll give a little praise, I did like the pamphlet's easy guide to serving sizes, it has helped me chill and realize DS doesn't need as much as *I* sometimes think to be getting what he needs)<br><br>
but yeah even some canned pineapple or something would be better than all that dang juice, I have been tempted to ask why they don't give say a can or two of fruit a month, with the requirement that it be canned in juice not syrup. I find it hilarious that all over their office they have signs and articles talking about childhood obesity and cautioning parents not to give too much juice and then they give me enough concentrate for at least 9 half gallon pitchers a month. DH and I drink it too and I STILL have a stockpile in my freezer! (of course fresh fruit would be even better but I figure since it's probably a $ allotment and it's hard to get exactly a pound or whatever, it'd be easier for them to do cans. They could specify just like they do with the brands of cereal and forbid the syrupy fruit. I occasionally buy cans to have around for when we don't get to the store to get more fresh.)<br><br>
Where do you guys live who are getting farmer's market vouchers? How do they do that? We have a market here in town and we don't get vouchers...I'd LOVE that...
 

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We live in Buffalo. We got them around this time of year last year I think, but sadly we didnt get to use them. Do they make you bring your kids at a certain age or something? Because I just have my husband go and get the checks for me so I dont have to go all the way out there with my son.
 

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they'll tell you when they need to see your kids. I *think* it's just once a year for their recertification, they weigh them, measure height. No wait, it must be 6 months because she said they only do the finger poke once a year and he had it last time we were there.<br><br>
my other wic rant I forgot is they lectured me on him not being up to date on his shots. I have no exemption. I'm doing selective vaccination. I told her I had plans to get his MMR and she said well he NEEDS more than just that. I talked to my non vaxxing friend she said they won't take it away they'll just continue to point it out. Annoying.<br><br>
I only plan to get the minimum he needs for school, which is far less than what the ped office pushes.
 

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Hmmm... They didnt make us bring him in at 6 months. Also, Im not trying to push not vaxing on you but you know you can get around shots for school right? I got a note from my ped for them saying that we dont do shots so well see how that goes at WIC in a week or so.... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I know I *can* but I'm not comfortable with the idea of them going where there's polio without a polio shot (I know even then it *may* not work) and about 6 weeks ago, I had Sophia in the hospital for 6 days with whooping cough. There were times I wasn't sure I'd be taking her home with me. I personally can't live through that again without trying to avoid it. (and I *had* quit vaxxing DS and wasn't going to do ANY for dd until I lived through that with her.)
 
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