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not sure if this should be here..........<br><br>
I was thinking flaxseed for omega 3's but from what I have read it's not a strong enough dose.?? Any advice??<br><br>
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Well, I took a 1-2 TB of flax oil daily (it was in a smoothie) and it was helpful to me when I was dealing with PPD after my son's birth.<br><br>
I have heard that it is not as great a source as fish or krill oil, but it definitely wouldn't hurt you to take the flax oil and see if you get any benefit from it. If you find it isn't working to help support you dealing with the PPD you could try something else, or stop it. Nearly everyone could benefit from a couple extra tablespoons of healthy oil. I found (by examining the milk after pumping) that it make my breast milk extra creamy.
 

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I took Flax Oil for depression and found it worked well. I do have to admit that Fish Oil works much better for me in lower doses but the Flax Oil definitely did the trick. I would get capsules and take 9 a day. (3 at a time) I hope this helps.<br>
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I understand that there are algae based vegan O-3 supplements that are supposed to have DHA. I've never taken omega 3 supplements and have no idea how, or if, any of them work, but thought that I'd throw that out there as another option.
 

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I just read in Super Baby Food that flax actually has more Omega-3 than most fish<br>
"...four grams of flax seeds (about 1/2 tablespoon) have 2372 mg of omega-3 fatty acids, whereas a half can of white tuna fish only has 700 mg and 3 1/2 ounces of rainbow trout has less than 600 mg" She does go on to say that sardines (about 5000 mg per 3 1/2 oz), Atlantic mackerel and sockeye salmon (2500-3000 mg per 3 1/2 oz) do have more omega-3 than the tuna, but flax comes next, plus no fish get harmed!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I just read in Super Baby Food that flax actually has more Omega-3 than most fish<br>
"...four grams of flax seeds (about 1/2 tablespoon) have 2372 mg of omega-3 fatty acids, whereas a half can of white tuna fish only has 700 mg and 3 1/2 ounces of rainbow trout has less than 600 mg" She does go on to say that sardines (about 5000 mg per 3 1/2 oz), Atlantic mackerel and sockeye salmon (2500-3000 mg per 3 1/2 oz) do have more omega-3 than the tuna, but flax comes next, plus no fish get harmed!</div>
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That's partially true, but leaves out an important fact. Flax contains the short-chain omega-3 fatty acid called ALA (alpha linolenic acid), which your body converts a little of to the long-chain omega-3s DHA and EPA.<br><br>
The complicated explanation is that your body needs to perform a series of chemical reactions with the delta-6 desaturase enzyme to convert the ALAs to omega-3s. <b>So if you're low in it, or have health issues (diabetics convert poorly or not at all), you won't convert very much. Scientists guess that the conversion rate is about 5%.</b><br><br>
Fish has the pre-formed DHA and EPA, so no conversion is necessary when it is consumed.
 

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Are there non meat sources to obtain delta-6 from? Is this the same as omega-6
 

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I don't know what Delta-6 is, but DHA (a long chain omega-3) is available in algae form as I mentioned above: <a href="http://www.detoxyourworld.com/acatalog/omega_zen.html" target="_blank">http://www.detoxyourworld.com/acatalog/omega_zen.html</a>
 

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We use a vegan, algae sourced, DHA supplement. We used to purchase the one linked to in the post above mine (O-mega-zen), but stopped when we found Deva's Omega-3. <a href="http://www.devanutrition.com/vegan_DHA.html" target="_blank">http://www.devanutrition.com/vegan_DHA.html</a><br><br>
The Deva capsules are smaller in size and thus dose but they're much less fishy smelly and tasting. DS can easily swallow the Deva capsule but no the O-Mega-Zen capsule.
 

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the folks at our vegan-health food store suggested that i take the algae-based DHA *and* either flaxseed or hempseed oil.<br><br>
I used hemp the months i could afford it, and flax the months i couldn't!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">the folks at our vegan-health food store suggested that i take the algae-based DHA *and* either flaxseed or hempseed oil.<br><br>
I used hemp the months i could afford it, and flax the months i couldn't!</div>
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hmm.... I will have to try that. Thanks!
 

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The delta-6 desaturase (D6D) enzyme is one of many in your body; it is the one that helps convert fats into usable fuel and nutrients in your body.<br><br>
It requires sufficient amounts of vitamin B6, magnesium and zinc to work properly, so be sure to have enough in your diet if you're taking flax oil.<br><br>
Because your body only makes limited quantities of D6D, and it needs this enzyme to break down both omega-6 and omega-3 fats, consumption of high omega-6 oils (soybean, corn, are the worst, but most veg. oils contain a lot of omega-6) will interfere with the omega-3 conversion.<br><br>
However, to be on the safe side, it would probably be better to take the veg. DHA supplements PP mentioned. Hopefully the stuff will come down in price once there's more demand for it.
 

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Clinical trials find that EPA is what is effective. You can convert some ALA in flax to EPA. DHA may also help in the PPD case -- there is just not much consensus on that yet. I will have quite a number of posts on my blog this month about Omega 3 and depression, including supplement types and food sources.
 

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Since the OP is seeking vegetarian omega-3 supplements, I would just mention that the prior poster's blog is likely to recommend TF non-veggie supplements and foods. If that is something she is willing to consider, that is fine, although I am assuming from her posting here in the veggie section and the title of her thread that she is more interested in vegetarian supplements and foods.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Since the OP is seeking vegetarian omega-3 supplements, I would just mention that the prior poster's blog is likely to recommend TF non-veggie supplements and foods. If that is something she is willing to consider, that is fine, although I am assuming from her posting here in the veggie section and the title of her thread that she is more interested in vegetarian supplements and foods.</div>
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My blog includes foods from all sources and will have quite a bit of information about the OPs question. Get EPA any way you can. Clinical trials show it is therapeutic for depression. The evidence continues to mount.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">The delta-6 desaturase (D6D) enzyme is one of many in your body; it is the one that helps convert fats into usable fuel and nutrients in your body.<br><br>
It requires sufficient amounts of vitamin B6, magnesium and zinc to work properly, so be sure to have enough in your diet if you're taking flax oil.<br><br>
Because your body only makes limited quantities of D6D, and it needs this enzyme to break down both omega-6 and omega-3 fats, consumption of high omega-6 oils (soybean, corn, are the worst, but most veg. oils contain a lot of omega-6) will interfere with the omega-3 conversion.<br><br>
However, to be on the safe side, it would probably be better to take the veg. DHA supplements PP mentioned. Hopefully the stuff will come down in price once there's more demand for it.</div>
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I'm sorry to keep asking about this, but I'm slow at picking this up. So if I have enough B6, madnesium and zinc I' be fine with digesting O3? Are there signs that you're deficient?<br>
I'm just trying to make sure because I'm eating extra flax and walnuts to help O3 while BFing and I want to know that my body is digesting it. I looked at the other vitamins (veg DHA), but honestly they are not in the budget, so I would like to make sure to increase my intake of the other nutrients to help.<br><br>
To Nina the OP, I'm sorry for hijacking your thread, but hopefully this is helpful to you as well.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment">
 

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A big thing we can all do for our O3 status is to cut out trans fats. They actually interfere with O3 metabolism.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'm sorry to keep asking about this, but I'm slow at picking this up.</div>
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Hey, me too! I'm only posting now because I've read about this issue over, and over, and over!<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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Not necessarily, but I think you would notice if you had a deficiency. Here are some symptoms: depression, poor concentration, skin problems (dryness, eczema) and dry hair.<br><br>
Dr. Budwig recommended taking flax seeds and oil with cottage cheese for her cancer patients. She said they worked synergistically (however I wouldn't recommend the kind from the store).
 
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