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North America's way of eating, is it really good for us?

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I am trying to find out if what "they" tell us to eat and how many nutrients "they" tell us we are suppose to have it the same all over the world. I have been reading a few other posts and articles that say the cereals aren't the best first food. I am trying to figure out what to do for my ds and myself for my next pregnancy. I want to make sure that I am getting the right amount of calicum, protien, iron etc but what is the right amount? Are European or Mediterrian diets different? Ok I know they are but what about how much nutrients they are suppose to get. It is the same across the border.
With ds, I asked a dietican today if I can give him something else for breakfast instead of cereal and she said no he won't get enough iron if he doesn't get cereal. Is the true? Or is that what "they" are suppose to say? I am really confused. Does anyone know any good articles or books to read that aren't Western's Societies way of eating. Almost everything else I have done with last pregnancy, how we raise our ds and how we live are lives is not like Western society so I guess I need to get our diets figured out too. Any suggestions would be great.
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Great question. The problem is each person will (usually) give you a different answer (that is representative of their own culture). We all are a product of our own culture. Having lived in various countries with radically different foods, I've learnt to be cynical of 'advice' that you "have to" eat this or that food. For example, I lived in Japan and I know a lot of Asian mothers - they don't eat a lot of dairy and are often mystified by western peds advice that they must give dairy products when their kids usually won't drink milk. Yet in Japan they sprinkle sesame seeds on their rice, they give dried up fish to toddlers to chew on, they eat soft fish bones, they eat lots of types of vegetables - they get enough calcium and iron I'm sure.

I had a good laugh once when I lived in Denmark. I'm Australian and was talking to my friend there, another Australian mother - her Danish health visitor (for her baby) insisted my friend give the baby (~1 yo) dry teething rusks to chew on. My friend explained that her Australian baby health book recommended a lamb chop bone to chew on. I remember being given bones to chew on as a kid too
Danish health visitor thought my friend was nuts - was horrified at giving a child bones, that alone lamb which was hideously expensive in Denmark. In fact a fave Danish baby food is mixing that heavy dark rye bread with sweet dark beer (it's non alcoholic). It's actually quite healthy but we found that rather odd. And in Australia, our fave Vit B source is Vegemite, which other countries find equally odd.

I don't know about the exact RDA amounts for vitamins/minerals in other countries - you'd probably need to look up each countries health department to find out.

I certainly like getting ideas for getting more of certain nutrients from other cultures when you have a toddler that refuses to eat a particular food group.
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Your dietician is a bit behind the times. It hasn't been proven but refined grained cereals are starting to be linked to obesity, diabetes, and possible even food allergies. There aren't any set first foods. I always gave my kids whatever we were eating, unles it was very heavily seasoned. But we didn't start solids until our babies were asking and ready to try to eat themselves (which for DD2 was four months, little monkey shoved her fingers into my mashed potatos and crammed them into her mouth. She was quick!)Avocado and banana come to mind but there are plenty others.

As for the differences in diets, even my nutrition teacher who seems pretty mainstream openly admits most of the recs are very driven by industry, not health. In the Mediteranian food pyramid, beef is at the very top, to be limited to once a month. Oils like olive oil are more towards the middle. Heck even wine comes before beef. I'll see if I can find a copy of the pyramid online. It's pretty interesting to see how different it is from the US one.
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Here's a link. I forgot that sweets actually come before meat too.
Really goes to show how much America is really run by industry.

http://www.mamashealth.com/nutrition/medpyramid.asp
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Originally Posted by NaomiLorelie
Here's a link. I forgot that sweets actually come before meat too.
Really goes to show how much America is really run by industry.

http://www.mamashealth.com/nutrition/medpyramid.asp
I love this - thank you!
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I know La Leache league recommends banana and avacado for first foods.
The American diet is pretty sad really. I am on the food program for my daycare kids and they give us info and it said that the most popular veggies for kids are ketchup and fries. Now come on, I cant believe that some actually classify these as veggies. Although my SIL told her son that most kids first foods are McDonalds fries
heres my little tidbit of info. my mom is taking nutrition classes for college and recently told me about calcium and milk and reasons we are told to eat alot of it. western culture is highly meat based. many many cultures don't even have meat every week (just like all the piramids show on that website). meat has some qualitys that makes absorbing calcium harder therefore we, as western society "followers" must have EXTRA calcuim to make sure we absorb it all. also althoug meat is high in protien which is good many cultures have beans, legumes, and eggs more than we do so they still have the protien in less fatty concentrates and don't inhibit calcium absorbtion. of course most vegans (who choose that lifestyle because of nutritional reasons) know how to get protien in other ways than meat.

of course i am not ready to give up my meat at all!! just wanted to pass on that tidbit!!
Fats don't inhibit calcium absorption. Calcium is pushed by the dairy industry, plain and simple. Most people aren't calcium deficient the problem is that excess protein will create an acid imbalance and leech calcium from the bones in an effort to neutralize the blood. This is called a negative calcium balance. Calcium pulled from the bones will create an issue, but the solution would be to stop eating meat to the exclusion of naturally alkalinizing foods like veggies. Pasteurized dairy is as much of a culprit as meat. Contrary to popular belief, pasteurized dairy has no bioavailable calcium and will remove what is already stored in your body. A PP said it best. America is run by industry. It's really disgusting.
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