[thomlynn]

dh recently checked out NT and is falling in love with it. I was wondering if you could share how the NT diet has changed you, do you feel more healthy have you lost weight etc. And what is the best Way to ease into it. We only have about $50 a week grocery money and I'm overwhelmed with the amount of things we "need."

We already do organic dairy and we're saving up to get beef from a local farm (they want you to have at least a $50 order or they charge an extra 10%). We eat a lot of beans to save money as well.

Anyhow what I want to know is if it's worth it and if it is how do I get started??

 

[thomlynn]

Another thing.... where do I find raw milk?? Everything else I think I can get online but the raw milk I can't find anywhere. I looked at one of those websites for people in your area and there were none.

How much land do I need to get my own goat!!!

 

[WendyC]

I am just starting to do NT, so I can't vouch for long term effects - but I really enjoy the connected-ness I feel towards my food. I never even had a thought before of where all my food comes from, but now I have great pride in drinking milk straight from a cow that I know and have touched. How fantastic is that?!

It just makes so much sense to me to eat foods the way we have eaten them for eons. Our bodies know how to process butter, broths, fermented veggies, and so on - they are befuddled (I think) by all these wacky chemicals and fillers in all the packaged foods.

For milk - I did a yahoo group search for Weston Price, Raw Milk, Traditional Foods and Native Nutrition and found a local group that is into this stuff. Check out here: http://www.westonaprice.org/localcha...locallist.html and while you may not have a farm in your city, sometimes there are local drop offs for milk. But it may be worth it just to drive an hour or two a couple times a month - it would be for me.

 

[newcastlemama]

I just wanted to encourage you to change slowly so it is easier to figure out your budget and new NT food likes. I also think high vitamin cod liver oil is a good supplement for the cost (I like Dr. Ron's Cinnimon..I think 8 oz for $20)

We will be getting goats and all that to save money too!!

About a change in health. I am actually going to a clinic (Recovery Systems) in SF that uses NT princples to build my body up from the low-fat and strict vegetarian abuse that I have done to it over the years. I started NT myself in April after having an MC 2/28 at 13 weeks. I relaly started to question the super-lowfat/lowcal vegan thing I had been doing (Eat to Live was the program). The nutritionist says that I was starving myself and I shoudl not get pregnant for a year. I had the worst iron stores they have ever seen. Now I am enjoying grass-fed beef, free-range eggs, coconut oil, ect and know I am on the path to wellness!!!

Happy Eating,
Jennifer

 

[Laurel723]

Sorta OT but maybe not...

Isn't the person who runs Recovery Systems also the author of The Mood Cure?

For the OP-I'm just starting NT myself (since about the first of the year?)-been obsessively reading and re reading the book, and the WAP website, and realmilk.com, and I can tell you this-I had no morning sickness, no pregnancy issues at all (except stretch marks

) and have been far more comfortable all the way through than my office mate, who's due three weeks before me. I have color in my lips now, and can actually skip wearing makeup-before I was blotchy, and my lips were the same color as the rest of my skin-pale.

Not exactly scientific but it's what I've noticed, and I haven't really done that much. We're on a supertight budget too, but my "big things" are whole milk (can't afford raw right now

) and it's the lesser of the evils, cod liver oil (for me, dh won't even consider it

: ) and bone broth. We have access to relatively inexpensive beef bones since my parents raise (and sell) custom fattened beef, so I know they are good quality and what they eat.

One drawback I've found, though, is that it's just slightly addictive.

I wish we were in a place-physically or financially-to have a milk cow....maybe someday when I grow up!
But fun. And I don't even want fast food anymore for lunch-if I forget to pack a lunch, I'd almost just as soon skip it as buy 'that other junk'.

 

[thomlynn]

THANKS so much for all the encouragement.

I love this place!!!

 

[yitlan]

Ease into NT as budget allows. One cheap thing to do is soak grains. That doesn't add any extra money, just time! And bone broths don't cost any extra. Just save your bones from your meat. See, two very important NT elements that don't cost any extra!

 

[newcastlemama]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laurel723 Sorta OT but maybe not... Isn't the person who runs Recovery Systems also the author of The Mood Cure? .

Yep!!!

 

[thomlynn]

Ahhhhh...... I can't believe it's only been seven months since I first started looking around here!!!! We've come a long long way.

We slowly started making changes and things are going SOOOOO well.

We didn't get a cold or flu this winter. One minor stomach flu went around, we each had it for one day while others in the area were sick up to a week!!!

I can take my CLO without having to talk myself into it. Just mixing it into a small glass of orange juice and I don't even notice. I'm even starting to cut back on the juice!!!

We hardly ever go out to eat anymore but I don't really miss it. I'm trying to cook different foods and actually like the taste of fruits and veggies!!!! I'm trying all sorts of different fruits and veggies too!!!

I eat raw eggs, anchovies, liver and whey!!!

My skin is looking better, I'm feeling so much better, and I've lost 24lbs from my prepregnancy weight and I haven't really been doing anything special. Just eating good food!!!

Thanks for all the support, ideas and recipes!!!

 

[klg47]

Lacto-fermented (LF) vegetables and drinks are another low-cost thing you can do. Assuming that you already buy vegetables, there is little or no added cost. The recipes in NT all call for whey to aid the lacto-fermentation process. You can get whey by draining store-bought yogurt, or you can go to the Wild Fermentation book for information on the more traditional salt-only methods.

 

[425lisamarie]

We've always pretty much ate this way. I'm mainly a scratch kitchen and we are healthy and feel great. My kids are always full of energy and healthy, never ever sick. I love food! I love buying, cooking, eating, anything to do with it. We are probably spoiled because food is my hobby so I don't feel like it's a chore much of the time.

Having said that, some people are not as healthy genetically or whatever. I say this so as not to offend people who eat great and have kids that get sick kid a lot. I know some people who breastfeed, eat zero junk, blah blah, and are sick constantly.

So I guess I can't vouch for change or effects of eating a traditional sort of diet, because we've always ate the same. Although there are a few more things I do now from scratch that I never used to do. But the only thing it does is save a few more bucks because I used to alwasy buy bread, now I usually make it.

I can tell you we all are in excellent health, I attribute much of that to my food

 

[Tcarwyn]

For changes in health here:

-i used to have a major afternoon slump...when I could barely function (enter the coffee and chocolate) No more...I have high energy all day long
-better sleep
-way way better skin
- my hair grows faster, longer and is more wavy
-Last time I had a clold was two years ago (right after the birth of dd2)
- Both my girls have nice wide palates

- loosing weight steadily. Not super quick, but I feel great while loosing and I am almost at my ideal weight ( I have struggled with my weight since I was a kid)
- dh lost a TON of weight in like two weeks going stickly grain free NT ( he use to have a bit of a taste for fast food) and fit back into his climbing harness from college and had a nice 6 pack stomach again
- my kids are not sick often and when they do get a cold its over in two days
-My dh used to be prone to depression...it has been 3 years or more since he had anything like that
- I used to have mood swings...now I am much more steady
-I quit smoking with hardly a problem and dont drink coffee anymore either
- got rid of my sugar cravings ( well....mostly

- an endrocinologist diagnosed me with secondary congenital adrenal hyperplasia and was going to put me on steroids and three other medications for life. I ate a strictly NT/paleo diet and supplemented with CLO for 1 month and when I went back the doc said that all signs had gone "subclinical" ( whatever) and snet me out the door...

and we never ate a SAD diet before...we were already pretty healthy

I could go on

Tanya

 

[GrannySue]

I am loving it - but my body had been so heavily poisioned when I started that I've had several "false starts"... Used to be if it wasn't packaged it didn't make it home. Now, I don't even like to package my own!

Now, I feel fine, though the detox sent me into coniptions for a while! I have more energy, and not so many aches and pains. Can't STAND most of the stuff I used to eat anymore, though, doesn't even taste good anymore.

http://www.realmilk.com can help with local coops selling raw milk products, and most of them sell many other products as well. If you like honey - raw is something to be seriously considered, but not for children... Conventional wisdom says 1 year - I've talke to many that say avoid for the first 5 years.

I also agree with the person that posted about sprouting grains. They are cheaper in bulk if you can get them.

Do what you can with what you have. Gardens can be grown on window sills depending on what you want to grow (and will save a TON of money if you are careful).

Some ideas, most stolen blatantly from WAPF and their Wise Traditions Newsletter:

If there is a "custom" butcher in your area that sells sides of beef that are grass-fed, you can get what they call "dog bones" for free most times. Nearly always, it is beef, but sometimes chicken carcasses as well.

I get mine from a butcher - who buys from the farm. I go back every Sunday and get about 50# of bones for the dogs, saving some for the soup pot.

They will usually (most times only for existing customers, though - so ask) do organ meats. These are usually ground and sold as "pet food." Actually, in some states, the raw milk is sold as pet food as well....

If you are stuck with store-bought milk, try to find non-homogenized. If you are not in CA, you will NOT find raw at any grocery. If not in CA, state laws vary, but usually a coop has relatively good prices.

When the farmer's markets open up, be sure to go at least to check several out... Prices vary, and so does the produce. Some offer meats as well, and you can talk to the people and find out how it has been grown/raised.

It is well worth both the time and the money - especially with little ones. You can't put a price on great health! Not to mention, attitudes change for the better the healthier you get. That's gravy.

My grand daughter has never had a single cold, ear infection, nothing. Teething was a breeze. And she is more well-adjusted at 22 months than my daughter is at 20 years!

Do a search for Weston A Price+recipes or WAPF recipes... you'll come up with some WONDERFUL sites that will save you time, money, headaches and sanity!

(NT Cooking is great - that's how I found this forum! I just don't have the link handy at the moment, sorry!)

Sue