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maybe latching hurts because of the thing on his gum. the strike DD had was related to hand-foot-mouth and she had terrible sores in her mouth. at first she was desperate to nurse, but couldn't because it hurt so much - then she was scared to nurse because she remembered it causing pain.<br><br>
that may well be it. maybe try some teething tablets, or maybe even something like tylenol or motrin if you give him that ever and see if soothing the discomfort will help him nurse. DS sometimes bites me when he's teething if i try to comfort nurse him because his mouth is so sore.<br><br>
and i do agree, it's worth a check-out at the doc, in case there's a problem. and then at least you won't worry about it, you'll know it's OK.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">sounds like a strike espec since he isn't into solids - i would not give any solids and just offer bm. i bet by dinner time of doing that one day he will nurse like crazy.</div>
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He is into solids (sorry if I said he wasn't), he's just very picky about what he eats, currently it's starches (fake-chicken nuggets, angel fluff, pasta and apples <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"> )<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">The thing on his gums sounds strange... I might take him in and have a doc look at it. Maybe that's part of the problem here.</div>
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I think you're right-- it just cropped up last night, but who knows. Lemme go find a ped dentist in the area....<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">maybe latching hurts because of the thing on his gum. the strike DD had was related to hand-foot-mouth and she had terrible sores in her mouth. at first she was desperate to nurse, but couldn't because it hurt so much - then she was scared to nurse because she remembered it causing pain.<br><br>
that may well be it. maybe try some teething tablets, or maybe even something like tylenol or motrin if you give him that ever and see if soothing the discomfort will help him nurse. DS sometimes bites me when he's teething if i try to comfort nurse him because his mouth is so sore.<br><br>
and i do agree, it's worth a check-out at the doc, in case there's a problem. and then at least you won't worry about it, you'll know it's OK.</div>
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I do give motrin when it gets bad-- in fact according to dr. sears you can give a ONE-TIME double dose. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/duck.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Duck">: I know that's not ideal, but I tell you I am trying everything I can think of. It made him a little happier, but did not get our nursing relationship back on track.<br><br>
I wonder-- what do the sores from foot hand mouth look like? Oh, I just googled it and it doesn't look like that. It also doesn't look like a blood blister (that apparently can come from an erupting tooth)
 

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well, whatever the thing is in his mouth, it just burst. Miles had his finger in there (as always, when he is teething) and out came a little blood. It's more swollen and irritated. We see the ped in the morning (no co-pay) and then if he suggests it, we'll go to the dentist ($81 new patient visit)<br><br>
5.5 days now....
 

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I would think it is just a nursing strike. Another thing that I haven't seen mentioned and that worked for my son during a nursing strike was to let him eat enough to be comfortable (He was about 10 months and not taking bottles or sippy cups or really many solids--then pumping and using a dropper to get it into him). Then, once he was asleep, I nudged him just enough to get him a bit awake and nursed him and from then on, he nursed fine. I was really worried when he striked though because he wasn't having much intake of anything.
 

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Hi jessmomto2--<br>
Yes, I tried sneaking the boob in when he was asleep-- twice. But that was a good idea. And I think it works for most moms...er...babies. Not my guy.<br><br>
what did you mean about "letting him eat enough"? Of what? Oh, I reread-- you mean you let him eat all enough with the dropperful of EBM, right? Miles takes a sippy cup, or straw in cup or can sip from a cup. So I let him drink from one of those options, then offer again.<br><br>
Also at LLL, someone mentioned that when he asks for water or whatever, ask him first if he'd like it straight from the tap. This morning I tried and he just wanted the cup.<br><br>
Another thing someone mentioned was causing let down and then offering-- my let down happens so fast so I don't know how that would change things, but I'll give it go.
 

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Oh mama, I can't imagine goign through this. I hope he gets back to your breast soon. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"><br><br>
Hopefully the thing bursting was a good thing and his mouth will feel better soon. Wish i had some sage advice, but it looks likt the mamas covered it really well already.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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thanks mamamoo--<br>
well i guess it didn't really "burst" b/c it's still there, as big as day. if he were chomping back there he would be mashing it with the uppers. It's THAT big.<br><br>
off to the ped now.... will report back later...<br><br>
thanks for all the support mamas <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/loveeyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Loveeyes">:
 

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oh no. I hope they figure it out...at least you know this might be the problem. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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well, the ped thought it looked worrisome enough (he said quite possibly an abscessed tooth! aaahhh! and gave me an rx for amoxicillin) to send us to the ped. dentist. The Ped. dentist said it was a really normal gum eruption. The molar is trying to get out, and in the mean time it is pushing a bunch (copious amounts, in our case) of gum tissue up into weird shapes. But that is is NOT infected and totally normal. the white stuff is not pus, it's tissue and that the blood, in small amounts, is normal <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug">:<br><br>
So, we are still back where we started, nearly 7 full days and Miles still shows absolutely no signs of wanting the chi-chi.<br><br>
Off to playgroup tomorrow for some more "peer pressure" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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Awwww...mama. I'm glad it's "normal", but so sorry there is no real end in sight. I hope that tooth pops through fast, and he gets back to the good stuff soon! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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ugh. glad to hear it's not a problem, but geesh. wish they could've done something for him! hang in there and keep us posted!
 

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i'm glad it was nothing serious! it still sounds painful. maybe when it passes he'll be back to the boob.
 

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I am very confused. I consider myself an extended breastfeeder, but after a year, I would consider the behavior described to be the quintessence of child-led weaning. Why are so many of you so sure it's just a strike? How can you consider it "just a strike" and also recommend witholding other foods and beverages to make it continue, and still think that you're "child-led?"
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I am very confused. I consider myself an extended breastfeeder, but after a year, I would consider the behavior described to be the quintessence of child-led weaning. Why are so many of you so sure it's just a strike? How can you consider it "just a strike" and also recommend witholding other foods and beverages to make it continue, and still think that you're "child-led?"</div>
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Humans need to nurse for a minimum of two years- not one. I would consider any stopping of nursing before 18 months to be a strike without a doubt.<br><br>
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My DS nursed until 3, and at 2 my DD is going strong, but I still would never have manipulated either into continuing past a year if they chose. I find the withholding of water or solid food from a toddler in order to PREVENT child-led weaning to be simply shocking.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">My DS nursed until 3, and at 2 my DD is going strong, but I still would never have manipulated either into continuing past a year if they chose. I find the withholding of water or solid food from a toddler in order to PREVENT child-led weaning to be simply shocking.</div>
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It sounds to me like you are not familiar with a nursing strike or premature weaning. Here's a good link for you:<br><br><a href="http://www.kellymom.com/bf/concerns/baby/back-to-breast.html#strike" target="_blank">http://www.kellymom.com/bf/concerns/...st.html#strike</a><br><br>
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Bolding mine. You'll also notice that the OP stated that this was *abrupt*<br><br>
Classic nursing strike.<br><br>
-Angela
 
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