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I am completing my doula certification which requires and extensive list of resources. On the list are OBs. I only know midwives in the area and don't just want to list any OB for fear that a mom will use them and then come to find out they have an 80% C/S rate or something.

So mamas out there who have used OBs or know of some with good knowledge of them being supportive of normal, physiological birth, with low C/S rates, could you please tell me about them!

So far I have listed Swedish Women and Childrens Clinic, and Dr Eric Fassler (Womens and Family Health Specialists.)

Thank you for your help!

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Dr. James Joki at Northwest Hospital. He is great and well known among everyone. Delivered my three and I wouldn't go anywhere else.
 

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I would recommend you look at hospital stats (epidural rates, induction rates, c/s rates) and identify the facilities that are supportive of normal birth, vbacs and have a ton of midwives who also catch babies there! Then find out who the OBs are at those facilities, because you know there is something good going on there!

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A good friend of mine had two completely natural hospital births with Dr. Angela Chien at Evergreen. At her 2nd, she was ok with her pushing on all fours. I don't know much about this OB other than that, but might be worth looking into.
 

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I would recommend the group of OBs who work with the midwives at the Center for Women's Health at Evergreen. It's a nice practice because women have the choice between midwives and OBs and can switch if things become more complicated. The docs do VBACs and back up the midwives to do VBACs too. Dr. Wells, Dr. Delorit and Dr. Eagan are all excellent. In my most recent pregnancy, I had a lot going on (placenta previa, preterm labor, pprom at 29 weeks, preterm birth at 31, placental abruption during the birth) and I got to know all of these doctors well. In my experience, all three were supportive of natural labor - and more than that supportive of what mom/family wanted. And all three are excellent doctors.

Dr. Johnston is newer to the practice and my experience with her was not good (she tried to bully me into a c section when my water broke at 29 weeks, while the other three docs and my perinatologists wanted to do expectant management). I have had other friends have an okay experience with her, and she is fluent in Chinese if you have clients that speak Chinese. One of the midwives there also speaks Japanese.

The other doc I like at Evergreen is Dr. Dydell.
 

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I would recommend the group of OBs who work with the midwives at the Center for Women's Health at Evergreen. It's a nice practice because women have the choice between midwives and OBs and can switch if things become more complicated. The docs do VBACs and back up the midwives to do VBACs too. Dr. Wells, Dr. Delorit and Dr. Eagan are all excellent. In my most recent pregnancy, I had a lot going on (placenta previa, preterm labor, pprom at 29 weeks, preterm birth at 31, placental abruption during the birth) and I got to know all of these doctors well. In my experience, all three were supportive of natural labor - and more than that supportive of what mom/family wanted. And all three are excellent doctors.

Dr. Johnston is newer to the practice and my experience with her was not good (she tried to bully me into a c section when my water broke at 29 weeks, while the other three docs and my perinatologists wanted to do expectant management). I have had other friends have an okay experience with her, and she is fluent in Chinese if you have clients that speak Chinese. One of the midwives there also speaks Japanese.

The other doc I like at Evergreen is Dr. Dydell.
I was "scared into" a c/s at 39 weeks because Dr. Wells thought my baby was going to be too big for a vaginal delivery - no other complications or issues with my pregnancy. He was 8lbs 12oz. When I called asking about having a VBAC there with baby #2, they instantly wanted to schedule me for another c/s at 41 wks. To me, that's not being supportive of a normal birth. This hospital also has one of the highest c/s rates in the Seattle area.
 

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I would recommend the group of OBs who work with the midwives at the Center for Women's Health at Evergreen. It's a nice practice because women have the choice between midwives and OBs and can switch if things become more complicated. The docs do VBACs and back up the midwives to do VBACs too. Dr. Wells, Dr. Delorit and Dr. Eagan are all excellent. In my most recent pregnancy, I had a lot going on (placenta previa, preterm labor, pprom at 29 weeks, preterm birth at 31, placental abruption during the birth) and I got to know all of these doctors well. In my experience, all three were supportive of natural labor - and more than that supportive of what mom/family wanted. And all three are excellent doctors.

Dr. Johnston is newer to the practice and my experience with her was not good (she tried to bully me into a c section when my water broke at 29 weeks, while the other three docs and my perinatologists wanted to do expectant management). I have had other friends have an okay experience with her, and she is fluent in Chinese if you have clients that speak Chinese. One of the midwives there also speaks Japanese.

The other doc I like at Evergreen is Dr. Dydell.
I'm going to put a strike against Dr. Dydell as well. She ended up being the OB on call when my water broke (PROM) with my first and started threatening a c/s if I didn't start pitocin 6 hours afterwards. Then when I was pushing she kept offering all sorts of interventions I had specifically told her I didn't want. Baby was not in distress, so there was no need. I was not at all pleased with her.
 

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This is all such good information! Thank you!

I just had a birth with a Doc at Swedish - Dr Dobrina Okorn - and she was awesome!
 

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I saw Dr. Molly Oxford (Dr. Hanlon for delivery) with Associated Valley Obstetrics in Renton (Valley Medical Center).

I had to stand up for what I wanted, and I left the office in tears at least once, but I had the natural delivery that I wanted.

So, I'd say they're okay as long as you're like me and aren't afraid to say "No" to your doctor quite a bit.
 

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The Ballard Midwives have already told me that if I am blessed enough to have twins that I can NOT deliver with them.
My husband and I are not impressed with any of the five OBGYNs that we have seen over the last four years.
Every time I had a chance to have an annual exam we chose a new OBGYN to experience their bedside manners and their reactions to our appearances. Each time I would add them to the intolerable doctor list.

I am older, in my late 30's and have many small tattoo and other body mods. However, I have great hygiene, no STDs, we are monogamous, I have an advanced degree and pay property tax in Seattle, so I am less tolerant of having to explain our appearance to a medical professional.

I find it to be in poor taste when all they see is my ink, and forget that I am human.

Sincerely, Katylin
 

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I know 2 women who had vaginal births with twins at evergreen, but the midwives there aren't allowed on twin cases either. Only OBs.
 

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I am a doula and really liked Dr. Hyde at Evergreen and Dr. Laudermilk at Swedish. I am not sure if either of them will do VBACS though....
 

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Hi! I just attended an awesome birth with Dr. Lowdermilk (the same one Morgan mentioned above...) and he was very open to natural... although it could also have been how determined this mother was. She wanted him to break her water at 6cm to speed things up, and he REFUSED!
: He said her labor would be easier on her if she just let it break naturally. He never fussed with her, and while she did have to push on her side, he was using warm compresses on her perineum and even used the EVOO compress she brought from home! She didn't tear with her 8+ pounder!

The nurses, on the other hand, kinda sucked. I'm not a huge fan of the Swedish Nurses... Lauren was the only one I liked.

This mom also was seen by a Dr. Friele (sp?) at Swedish and I did NOT like her. She was pushing pit/Arom/epi (trying to scare here with possible fetal distress if she "just kept doing nothing") after moms contrax slowed down for a few hours at 4cm. Mom denied everything and sure enough, things picked up again after a nice little rest!

hmmm... I LOVE the midwives at Providence Everett... I had a "hands and knees" delivery there that was awesome.

AND if you are looking at twins... go see Dr. Joki at Northwest! Northwest is a GREAT place for twins, because they don't do too many (like, 6 per year) and the mom I knew who had her twins there was able to deliver in a regular room (no OR).


If you are looking at a cesarean though, I also like Northwest... and Dr. Frankwick. She's a little intimidating at first, but talks moms through the procedure and uses a straight needle and double stitching when sewing moms up! She's a quilter


When recommending OBs to clients, I tend to stress the fact that there is a very low chance that their ob will actually deliver them... of the OB births I've had so far this year, 1/5 have been delivered by the doc who saw mom prenatally. So I suggest "hiring the practice"... and making sure they meet ALL of the OBs!
 

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Not sure how far south you are looking for, but Dr. Frank Jung in Tacoma delivered my last baby and he was WONDERFUL! I had to be induced due to pre-eclampsia and was afraid I would be strapped to the bed the whole time, but he just wanted about 45 minutes in the beginning to ensure the baby was handling the meds ok, and then he encouraged movement, water, whatever I wanted - even water labor after my water broke, which a lot of docs apparently frown upon. Drugs were not even mentioned, he had no issues with food/drink during labor, was ok with me having my "posse" in the hospital with me, IVs were not applied (or mentioned for that matter - not even a port), and he was fine with releasing the placenta to me after. Basically all the things I had heard would be no-nos in an induced hospital birth, he allowed. He was also there with me through the pg when I lost my daughter's twin sister, and is a very kind, compassionate man who looked at the human side of my pregnancy as well as the clinical side - he always asked how I was handling the loss emotionally, if I had enough support, etc. I just can't say enough good about him, and believe me, I have significant trust issues with most docs!

My only criticism of him is that he is a little quick with the prescription pad - wanted to give me a sleeping pill after the birth, of all things! But he doesn't argue when I say no.

ETA: Dr. Jung's partner, Dr. Baghdadi, is also excellent - believes strongly in natural birth and the midwifery model of care, etc. And one thing that really impressed me about their practice is that between the two of them they attend about 98% of their births.
 
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