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Did you guys see this? You vote and then you can see the results...I was pretty impressed with the YES/NO (to circ) poll very much in favor of NO. When I looked there were about 40,000 respondents..so this is NO small poll. The sad thing is...a LARGE percentage of people that answered yes...still thought there were health benefits.<br><br>
Check it out...<br><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17402806/" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17402806/</a><br><br>
There is also a link at the bottom of the page that explains how polls and responses can vary if you want to read how they figure this stuff. Internet polls do not get quite as much merit sometimes.....I really wish this one would.<br><br>
Anyhow, read on!
 

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31% say they support RIC and 69% say they don't! Thats pretty cool!<br><br>
Here is my letter to MSNBC:<br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Infants aren't sexually active! There is no compelling reason to cosmetically alter a newborns sexual organs to an arbitrary reductive surgery known as circumcision. The foreskin is a highly sophisticated organ that serves to protect the meatus (where the pee comes out) and the glans from soiled diapers and foreign pathogens. The foreskin is tightly adhered to the glans just like the fingernail is to the finger. It isn't fully retractable until after his diaper days and sometimes not until he reaches puberty and thats perfectly normal. Circumcision is barbaric. Try ripping off your fingernail and place a clamp on your wound for 5 to 10 minutes while telling yourself, "This is not medically necessary". With or without pain relief, babies can feel that. More newborns die from complications during a circumcision than the .01 percent of men who might get penial cancer! Circumcised or not, there is no substitute for condom use. Females have a higher rate of UTI and other infections than her intact male peers and no one is suggesting to cut bits off her. Why? Because the American Medical Curriculum teaches how to care for an intact female while it only tells physicians how to amputate perfectly healthy tissue on newborn boys. Medical books only show pictures of circumcised males, even in utero! Medical students are brainwashed into thinking the foreskin is gross and ugly. This is beyond discrimination, this is ignorance and bigoted behavior! Circumcision is a human rights issue. Every child has an inherited right to an intact body. We should all keep our noses out of our children's future sex life!</td>
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I should have wrote organ instead of tissue. Oh well, if I niced picked on my own writing all the time I'd never send anything in. I sort of did this one quicly anyways. Thanks for sharing the article.<br><br>
I did not like this:<br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">The findings were based on two trials in Africa involving more than 7,500 men and were halted early because the preliminary results were so striking.</td>
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The studies were halted because of its methodically flaws and it was inconclusive. Their results had overly optimistic conclusions which means they stopped this study when they had what they wanted the study to show. This was their agenda to begin with. The push came to shove when the pro-circ's got worried about the drastic decline in circumcisions. I read an OB got angry about America funding circumcisions over seas but would not fund it here. He wanted to get paid more I guess.
 

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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>TryingMyBest</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/8964759"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">The sad thing is...a LARGE percentage of people that answered yes...still thought there were health benefits.</div>
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I'm not surprised at all that the general population thinks there are health benefits since I've had medical doctors spout off the same crap to me in the past. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">:
 

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Can I just say how cool I think it is that TryingMyBest has become so passionate and dedicated to this cause in such a short time?<br><br>
We're glad to have you here.
 

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I remember voting in that poll a long time ago too...because it won't let me vote again.
 

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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>l_olive</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/8970435"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">Can I just say how cool I think it is that TryingMyBest has become so passionate and dedicated to this cause in such a short time?<br><br>
We're glad to have you here.</div>
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that's what i was thinking!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
i voted in that poll a while back, but i am so happy to see its still pro-intact.
 

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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>l_olive</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/8970435"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">Can I just say how cool I think it is that TryingMyBest has become so passionate and dedicated to this cause in such a short time?<br><br>
We're glad to have you here.</div>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/yeahthat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="yeah that">: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/clap.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="clap"> It is so amazing how a decision can empower someone!<br><br>
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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>l_olive</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/8970435"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">Can I just say how cool I think it is that TryingMyBest has become so passionate and dedicated to this cause in such a short time?<br><br>
We're glad to have you here.</div>
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Ahhhh, that is so sweet! I have to be honest...I figured people looked at my posts and were just like "Shyeah and that little Missy was on the fence a few days ago...." and viewed me as like a hybrid....lacking TOTALITY in the cause....Even though I have had a ton of sweet messages...I kind of thought the general consensus would be that I was an outsider...= (<br><br>
It IS a hard decision for some to make so I think that having support and heavy supporting information (for me intellectually and socially) makes a HUGE difference in how involved you are and how comfortable you feel with that decision. THIS is where I get it...and the more people that understand...the less people there are not only opting for circ but also less argumentative folks to deal with. Call it proactive mediation!<br><br>
Anyway, that post means a lot!
 

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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>ColoradoMama</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/8967750"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">I swear I voted on this poll a long time ago, but maybe not - it let me vote again!</div>
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I find I can vote every other month or so. It deppends on when the cookies expire.
 

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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>l_olive</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/8970435"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">Can I just say how cool I think it is that TryingMyBest has become so passionate and dedicated to this cause in such a short time?<br><br>
We're glad to have you here.</div>
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<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbsup"> ABSOLUTELY! I was just thinking the same thing!!!
 
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