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i was GBS+ with my first baby. my water broke before i was dilated, and i was rushed by my midwife to hospital. started antibiotics immediately.<br><br>
i am unclear whether a GBS+ woman will be GBS+ for all her pregnancies.<br>
i am not yet ttc, but hoping next time to have a homebirth, and am nervous about this issue.<br><br>
also, i am a CBE in training, and want some clarity for future clients.<br>
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No... once GBS+ does not mean it's a 'curse' forever. There are natural ways to get rid of it and really, to be thorough, you have to treat both Mom and partner. I had it last time and worked to get rid of it, but didn't treat my DH... so it was still there when I delivered. If it is + this time, I will treat us both.<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I just had my 19 week appt today and the OB said i will be tested again, just because i had it last time doesnt mean i will again.<br><br>
Birthfree- do you have any resources for "curing" yourself?<br><br>
thanks!<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br>
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NO! I wwas + my 1st pg, not tested with 2nd as drs did think for a while that once + always+, and negative with my 3rd pg! I was sooooo excited! I didnt do anything to "cure" it, it just went away on its own, who knows if it has or will ever come back. There is hope!
 

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Heart and Hands has some "cures" for it...I think they involve garlic. Sounded fairly easy, actually...especially when you compare it to being tied to an IV during labor!
 

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Amy - MWToday has a lot of articles on it (you could search their website and I bet they'd come up) but from what I know - you can do hibicleanse (sp?) (that's what I did the first time) as a douche 2x a day for a week (that's what I did). You'd have to check with your MW but I used a few tablespoons for 2c. of water and then used that as a douche.<br><br>
Then there's yogurt on a tampon (weird sounding I know) to re-populate good-bacteria once a day (you just leave it in most of the day). Then you can also do garlic (don't know dosage info for that) and of course you can always use collodial silver (yay!) orally - it's an immune booster and strengthens your body.<br><br>
So for the partners - as far as I know, you do the same type of thing (they take collodial silver, use the hibicleanse (before, after sex - or once a day otherwise)) and all that. But I haven't had a chance to do all of this stuff yet so it's from watch-say, some research and here-say so far...<br><br>
Since collonization can literally change in a week, doing testing at the end of pg is more reliable than so early - I think my MWs did my testing at 36w.<br><br>
Anyways... if you do this stuff please let us know back what the results are for you.<br>
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From what I understand, it changes from "active" status to inactive fairly quickly, and vice versa.<br><br>
Which is why some women can "test negative" then give birth to a baby who ends up sick from GBS...<br><br>
I got a +++ test with PG #2, and since it was back before they changed the standard procedure, I was assumed ++ for PG #3 and got antibiotics. #2 was born so fast I didn't get the meds, but my water didn't break until she was practically crowning either.<br><br>
#4 and #5 planned homebirths. Took echincea the last few weeks to help make it less likely I'd have active GBS during labor.<br><br>
This time, seeing a CNM, and got tested at 36 weeks. I guess I'll find out soon if the test came back ++ this time or not. I took echinacea, ate lots of extra garlic and yogurt, washed REALLY thoroughly the day of the test. Had some iodine and did a quick external squirt down with diluted iodine in a peri bottle... I REALLY don't want to be stuck to an IV during labor, or else have the hospital hold my baby hostage while they wait on a blood culture result! (Which happened with #2 as a result of my labor going too fast to get the antibiotics)<br><br>
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this is very helpful feedback, mamas. thanks.<br><br>
i have just picked up "heart & hands", by luck, and look forward to reading remedies. just in case!
 

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Cool! Glad to hear it. It's a pretty great resource and basic, easy to read book all around. Easy to find stuff when you need it, too.
 

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Here is the thing with BGS. I know I may stir some cr*p around here by saying it. Many people here who do not have first hand or iknow anyone with first hand experience with this will just blow the whole thing off as an inconvenience. IVs, testing and keep ing baby, ect. ect. and believe me I was super excited when my test on my 3rd came back -.<br><br>
BUT this is a really serious thing as well. There are of course, different things that increase risk factors for baby contracting it, and most wont, but when one does they can become VERY sick. It isnt just like a little cold or something and they go home the next day, babies die everyday in the US from this. I am not trying to scare anyone but I know someone whos baby did die, and it would be terrible to come back on here and read a story from someone who just took it too lightly and didnt get tested, or didnt take any precautions during delivery because they were havign a homebirth. You can still have a homebirth and take the same precautions.<br><br>
It seems like everyone says things like, "my water didnt break" or "I didnt have internal exams", ect. but you have to be prepared. You cannot predict what will happen in birth, your water could break 2 days before you deliver, you never know.<br><br>
Just my 2 cents on the subject. As for the question as I posted earlier, you can get rid of it, or it can go inactive so her is to wishing you the best! Keep us posted at the end of your pg wo we can know how it all works out for you!<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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Thanks Lisa...<br><br>
But I don't think anybody here was making light of it, just exchanging experiences and ways to minimize risk of exposure to/active infection with GBS.<br><br>
The widespread use of antibiotics "just in case" is increasing the amount of people who are allergic to antibiotics and the number of bugs that are resistant to them. I've NEVER heard of a bug that was resistant to garlic or other immune system boosting natural treatments, though there are some people who are allergic to garlic or echinacea, etc. I think we can all agree minmizing our risk naturally, and decreasing the need to use/overuse of antibiotics is a good thing!<br><br>
No one wants a dead baby. Believe me, I have lived through that hell and I don't care to repeat the experience. I also don't believe the medicalized approach to dealing with the GBS issue is *on its own* the BEST way of doing things.<br><br>
Of COURSE no one can predict what will happen during labor, but being informed, taking steps to help prevent active GBS infection at the time of labor, and being aware of the risk factors and the signs to watch out for can help greatly in making wise choices!<br><br>
Kathryn
 

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And if I may say so, getting antibiotics in labor does not guarantee your baby won't have GBS or be born sick (or get sick) from it. There is no guarantee either way - so making an informed choice is a good choice.<br>
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The common thought of many obstetrical pracititioners is if a woman were positive during one pregnancy then she may not be considered "always positive" but rather "at risk". It is true the bacteria is transient and even one woman can test positive and negative within the same pregnancy.<br><br>
A healthy daily dose of probiotics will go far to populating the gut with healthy bacteria and prevent GBS* from colonizing. You can eat a yogurt high in active live cultures (even cottage cheese) or take a daily capsule according to the label. The home birth midwives in my area have adopted this practice as "prophylaxis" against GBS.<br><br>
* it also helps to keep yeast, BV, and bacteria such as e.coli and enterococcus from causing other ruckus in our systems during pregnancy. I don't have any citations handy but you can google for more information and actual studies touting the effectiveness of probiotics.
 

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i'm glad i asked the question, as you mamas are helping me be more informed.<br><br>
when i was gbs+, i was more than happy to take antibiotics (i had a heplock and a faithful nurse who helped me move around), as i felt i wanted to minimiz the scary chance of transmitting to my baby.<br><br>
however, it is awfully reassuring to know there are other, lower impact routes to take.
 
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