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Would it ruin my supply to do this? DS will be 7 weeks old tomorrow. I am short on sleep and PPD. My husband keeps offering to give him a bottle for his first nighttime feeding (around 12:30, 1:30 AM).
 

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i am hesitant to post 'yes, don't do it!' because i wouldn't want everyone who's given a bottle of formula to get a defeatist attitude- my dd had an occasional bottle of formula (weird mil i didn't have the ovaries at the time to stand up to) & my supply was fine. but i shouldn't have. it was bad for her gut. if you must (and there are other ways to get daddy to give you a break), could you pump? susan (sorry if terse i'm running late)
 

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My DH offered to give DS a bottle for his first night-time feeding. Rather than give DS formula, we chose to give him EBM.<br><br>
During the day I would express enough for a bottle of milk, and DH would give him that rather than formula. Then during his next nighttime feeding I express some more.<br><br>
Is that an option for you?
 

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I'd worry about her gut as well. Its open at is age and suseptable to allergens preasent in formula. However, if you are suffering from PPD and it gives you some sense of sanity, then that is an important factor to consider.<br><br>
I would definately try pumping if that's something you are open to doing. That way you don't have to worry about your supply or your baby's gut.<br><br>
Have you tried nursing on your side while lying down? My kids were about her age when I began to have this position mastered. That way you can doze off once he is latched on well. I think I sleep better with a night nursling because I also get that nice oxcytocin fix that helps lull me into a deep sleep!<br><br>
I hope you find someway to work through the PPD <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">'s I think we have a forum just for those suffering with it. You might post there and ask for some tips on how to get a break.
 

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Also, if you are open to expressing and you don't want to get a pump, hand expression works just fine. It takes a little practice. Look up the "Marmet method of hand expression" You can also call a La Leche League leader and she can explain it to you and/or send you a handout sheet which explains it. I would try to express in the morning when supply is highest.<br><br>
I would say, do what you think would be best for both the baby and you. Parenting, after all, is a balancing act and full of compromising, second guessing and guilt. I thought I would have my DH give a bottle in the night before I had any kids and, the truth is, the way my husband sleeps, the baby would be screaming before he woke up and then I would be awake anyway. I have heard similar things from other moms--I think the dads just are not as tuned in to the baby as the mom is.
 

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Is there any way your dh could be with your babe at another time while you nap? When my dd was really little, dh would take her at some point in the evening so I could nap for an hour or two, usually right after a feeding. He would also sometimes take her in the early morning after she nursed so I could sleep a bit more. We did some catch up on the weekends, too as far as sleep.<br><br>
Also, can you nap when your babe naps during the day? That helped me lots, too.<br><br>
Take care!<br><br>
Sheri<br>
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I have taken to nursing him lying down most of the time, even during the day...he's about eleven pounds now, and I'm currently underweight and not that strong to begin with. I'm glad he's gaining well, though. I'm going to try to pump. I wish I had saved more in the beginning when I had so much milk. My supply is more stabilized now and I have trouble getting much with the pump. But we'll give it a shot. The poor little guy screams and quits nursing every time I 1) let down or 2) he has gas or 3) his reflux acts up...though I'm not positive of the reflux anymore. I don't think my letdown is that forceful - it just drips out quickly most of the time, not spray. Anyway, sometimes I just want to quit completely and just give him formula. But I know this is best for him even though it's a fight all day long to feed him. We're basically going one day at a time right now. I've been to the PPD forum, too - I'm currently on a low dose of Zoloft that does seem to be helping some.
 

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I'll look up the hand expression method - maybe that would get more milk? My DH is taking full time college courses at night online in addition to working full time, so he's not available much. This is why he offered the 12:30 feeding - he's generally still up studying then. He'd hear the babe with the monitor. DS goes down in the crib, and back in the crib after the first feeding, then sleeps with me from the next feeding on, since his gas is too bad for him to stay asleep in the morning without a little snuggling. (His crib is in his own room, but we have a VERY small house, and he's right across the hall from our bedroom. We sleep in the twin bed in the nursery for the 2nd half of the night.)
 

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I think you are in the hardest part right now as far as feeling like throwing in the towel. I promise, very soon breastfeeding will be so easy. Bottle are a hassle until the very last day. Washing, sterilizing, mixing, buying formula, packing it around, being awake and getting up for EVERY feeding (unlike nursing asleep, which will happen soon if it hasn't yet).<br><br>
I know its hard and I really commend you for sticking with it despite the PPD and everything else that you must be enduring right now. You sound like a strong and loving mother <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love"><br><br>
When pumping, it might help to have your ds near you, or even a picture, to help with the let down process. Try to relax and DON'T watch the milk come out. A watched pot never boils type of thing happens <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">
 

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something that helped me while pumping was to sit in front of the computer and organise DD's photos - I'd get several let downs that way.<br><br>
Hang in there! You're doing a wonderful job.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> it will get better very soon- I remember ds being that old and every day was a struggle. waking up all the time to eat, etc. Now he's 7 months and I think back at how hard it was compared to how easy it is now.<br><br>
I think pumping some milk to have on hand for your dh to feed him is a good idea if you just really need some good sleep- what type of pump do you have? I could barely get any milk with a hand pump but can get more than enough with a electric (Medela Pump in Style). Also, I notice I can pump a lot if I take a warm shower and then pump.<br><br>
good for you for sticking with it and I'm glad you're doing something about the PPD- too many women suffer in silence.
 

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I would work on nursing side-lying. I swear I got more sleep that first year from that than anything else. It's WONDERFUL.<br><br>
I wouldn't do the formula-but I : 1. refuse to support formula companies 2. Think it's nasty nasty stuff that I would not feed a baby unless I had NO other choice and 3. feel that it is my responsibility as mom to make sure my child gets as much breastmilk as possible.<br><br>
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For pumping...have you ever tried tandem pumping, that is, pumping one side while your ds nurses on the other? I also have found that first thing in the morning I can get more when I pump than at other times. Try eating oatmeal for breakfast...that also boosts supply. I hope you are able to get more sleep and feel better soon.
 

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PPD is so hard (I had that also--I did end up having to do an anti-depressant--zoloft which I reserached and decided was ok while nursing. I did watch the dosing to nursing so they didn't get it when it was in the highest concentration but zoloft doesn't transfer to bmilk very much if at all). PPD isn't good for the baby and sleep deprivation can make it worse. If the pumping doesn't work out and you do decide to do formula, I recommend you use nutramagin or alimentum because they are hypoallergenic. You don't want the baby to get a large milk dose so early. Or even Carnation Good Start (where the proteins are broken down) would be better than other choices if you don't want to do the hypoallergenic ones! It will be ok mamma--taking care of yourself is part of taking care of your baby.
 

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I wouldn't do it, after formula supplementation very quickly led to me losing my milk completely with my first baby. The feeling that I had failed at breastfeeding only made my ppd that much worse. I did overcome the loss of my milk, and eventually did nurse DD1 exclusively, but it was really really hard work. It took one week to lose my milk, each bottle of formula lowered my supply and I had to keep giving her more and more. It took two months of very diligent pumping to get my supply back up to meet my baby's demand for milk.<br>
But that was only my personal experience. Not everyone who supplements with formula loses their supply so quickly, but some of us do. It's a possibility you need to keep in mind. Is it worth that risk to you? Is there any other way you can get more rest during the day? Try nursing in bed or in a recliner, and snooze while baby snacks. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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With the risk of getting flamed...<br><br>
I did supplement over the summer - with no family support but DH and battling PPD after a MC and all out of pumped milk I gave in. Luckily it did not affect my supply and we are back up to 100% nursing again.<br><br>
Just remember - 1 bottle can lead to 2 and 3... and so on and before you know it you might have a supply dip. Proceed cautiously...<br><br>
Would I do it again? Definitely not. It was risky and could've very easily led to weaning before 1 year... (we're 10.5 months now)
 

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Thanks all...I did pump earlier today and got 2.5 ounces. Maybe the hand expression method will work better. The pump is a Pump In Style a friend from work is letting me use (generous friend!). Unfortunately, it is currently out of commission as my DH sterilized the pump parts for me with one of those microwave bags and included a nasal aspirator...which is now a puddle of goo attached to the pump parts...we'll be back up and running on Monday. Maybe we can wait until then to try a bottle at night. My DH says - oops! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/blush.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="blush"> Would it work to mix some formula with expressed breastmilk if I end up with not quite enough? Would DS possibly sleep longer that way?
 

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pumping a bottle would help you supply a lot more.<br><br>
keep in mind that if you cut out night feedings your fertility is more likely to return.
 

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Formula = sleeping longer is a myth IMO. But I could be wrong... I think it has everything to do with eating patterns during the day, etc.<br><br>
We were able to get DS to sleep from 7:30 p.m. until about 5 a.m. by trying to get the nursing in during the day. Also we delayed solids, but he's really eating a lot now at 10.5 months and still not sleeping through the night.
 
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