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What do you all think of the new commerical promoting one less cancer patient. I think it is sick the way it is made to think it is such a happy thing. We haven't vax our girls. I will not be doing this one that is for sure!<br>
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I hate that commercial, but mostly because of the girls in the background who are apparently jumping rope to a "One Less" song. That song bugs me so badly that I actually mute the television. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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I hate that commercial. I get so angry when I see it. It is soooo misleading, they make it sound like the vaccine is for cervical cancer. It's not!!! It is for HPV an STD which just happens to be a factor in some cervical cancer paitents. I think most people get the impression that if they get this vaccine they will never get cervical cancer which is so misleading. I think it would be better to educate your kids on how not to get STDs than to shoot them up with drugs and let them screw around with out knowing the consenquences. Wow it felt good to get all that out. I've worked for health insurance and it bugs me everytime women call about that vaccine. I soooo just want to tell them everything I just posted but am pretty sure I would get fired for that. Great place to vent. Thanks.
 

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I hate the commercial. It doesn't even vaccinate against all the strains of HPV. A lot of the strains have no correlation with cervical cancer.<br><br>
I read somewhere the the governor (or some similar representative) of TX is making it a mandatory immunization. WTF? And they are now finding that the actual immunization is unsafe. (DUH! The all are!) Apparently, the testing wasn't even done to FDA standards. It's pretty crazy. If you want the info, let me know and I will ask my doula for it again. For some reason, I can't find the info she sent me.<br><br>
Oh, and the commercial is annoying. The scene with the mom and the daughter where the mom wants the daughter to get the vax is totally dumb. Wouldn't it be better to teach your child about the risks of unsafe sex?
 

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I can't stand those commercials!<br>
I turn the channel every time one starts (which is often <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">).<br>
Drives me crazy! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:
 

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Hmmm.<br>
Hard to explain how I feel about that commercial. I think that if it worked, it would be great. BUT it only vaxes against certain strains, not all. Maybe it would create a false sense of security--but, vaxing issues aside, I hate when people say, this is an std, totally preventable, blah blah blah, because MANY people have it with no symptoms and no idea they have it- it's very very subtle. So to say, my kid won't get it because they'll be so smart is a little unrealistic- BUT....I don't think the vax is the way to go. Esp when you consider what a lot of people have to say about vax effectiveness. I think it may take away from routine paps, the most important way to detect early cerv cancer...Seems to me that the old adage of weighing the risks vs. the treatment have gone out the window. People are treating nail infections with pretty powerful medicine with a whole slew of possible side effects. Ahh, yes, but the actual commercial- I think the girls jumproping in the end are so cute, and they seem a little embarrassed to be singing a silly song. There, I'm done.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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I, for one, don't think that my children will actually be that smart, esp considering the fact that I am a fairly intelligent person (more so before DS was born, as it all goes towards outsmarting the toddler) with infinate respect for the human body (I'm a massage therapist) and I still was dumb enough to get HPV when I was in college. I neither protected myself from STDs nor stayed with one partner. (Yes, I was a bit of a wild child.... ah, youth... wouldn't do it again). I never slept with anyone with any obvious symptoms of HPV but I got it. I have to tell you that having genital warts frozen off is right up there with natural childbirth. When I pointed out the importance of teaching our children about STDs, I was pointing out the ignorance of people, and esp women who don't believe that safe sex goes beyond taking the Pill. I was also trying to say that people are treating this vax as a cure all for cervical cancer, which it isn't. Not is it a cure all for HPV. The best thing to do is teach our children to respect themselves and each other if they are going to have sex. I know they will probably have unprotected sex anyway, but learning about having an annual pelvic exam is also part of learning about safe sex.<br><br>
On a slight tangent, does anyone know if they are giving this vax to men? I mean, it is marketed for women but do they say whether it is safe for men or not? I am just wondering about that offical in TX and how he would get away with only vaxing the women.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">On a slight tangent, does anyone know if they are giving this vax to men? I mean, it is marketed for women but do they say whether it is safe for men or not? I am just wondering about that offical in TX and how he would get away with only vaxing the women.</div>
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No, it's not available to men.
 

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the "one less" chant is very catchy. i can't help but sing it. so i've had to block out the rest of the commercial and think "one less" in terms of breastfeeding. like one less to get cancer because i've breastfed. or at least one less likely to get cancer. that way when i start muttering "one Less" and my kids are around, i sing one less gets cancer from breastfeeding. i hope this makes sense.
 

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First off why is this is the lactivism board?<br><br>
I have mixed feelings about this. I have not researched and have not heard good things about their length of testing. However the idea excites me. As someone who has HPV from someone she trusted (who still denies he has it) and ended up with one of the cancerous strains, I wish the idea of a HPV vaccine would have been given to me as a sixth grader. To think that it could have stopped me from having the terror of realizing I had an STD and it was giving me cancer. It was very difficult to explain to my parents what was wrong with me without admitting that I had caught an STD ( I was in college at the time, still on their insurance and living at home). While the precancerous cells were taken care of I have never, so far, had an experience more terrifying than dealing with CANCER.<br><br>
I do not think we should be mandating this vaccine at all, like whats happening in Texas.
 

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There's a lot more information available on the Gardisil vaccine over in the Vaccinations forum.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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Moving to the vaccination forum.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">As someone who has HPV from someone she trusted (who still denies he has it) and ended up with one of the cancerous strains, I wish the idea of a HPV vaccine would have been given to me as a sixth grader.</div>
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How do you know this particular man gave it to you? Did you know it can be transmitted even during protected sex? Did you know it can be transmitted from mother to child during childbirth? Did you know it may be possible to transmit it during genital play, if an infected person touches his/her own genitals, then immediately touches his/her partner's genitals or vice versa? Did you know it generally takes a period of YEARS for HPV to cause dysplasia? Unless you never engaged in sex or genital play with anyone but this one person and you were born by caesarean, you really have no right to accuse him of giving you HPV. Furthermore, the types of HPV that cause cervical cancer do not cause overt symptoms and cannot even be <i>tested</i> for in men. You are being accusatory to this man for saying he doesn't have HPV. He may not have it and even if he does, he doesn't know it. He's not <i>lying</i> to you and catching HPV from him (if he even had it) is no reason for you to believe he violated your trust, because he can't possibly know he has it or how he got it!!! I think you really should consider all of this, before living the rest of your life believing that he was somehow undeserving of your trust. That's just not pleasant baggage to carry around forever, kwim? Plus, you may be unnecessarily cutting a good person out of your life.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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You did not have cancer. You had precancerous cervical changes, aka cervical dysplasia. They are <i>not</i> the same thing. Most women (about95%) who catch a cancer-causing strain of HPV will never develop moderate or severe dysplasia and will rid themselves of the virus with no treatment whatsoever, never knowing they even had it. Women who don't do so are frequently on birth control or they are smokers. Studies have shown there are some specific vitamin and mineral deficiencies common among women who develop moderate to severe dysplasia or cancer from HPV. Therefore, my daughter will be educated on how to prevent complications from HPV <i>naturally</i>, no vaccine necessary.
 

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HPV causes up to 99% of cervical cancer cases. Also, although it only protects against 4 strains of HPV, these 4 strains are responsible for 70% of HPV-related cervical cancer cases. Also, two of those strains are responsible for 90% of genital warts cases.<br><br>
Plummeting gets <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbsup"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/clap.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="clap"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/truedat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Truedat"> from me!<br><br>
ETA: Facts about HPV do not change, regardless of your views on the vaccine. All persons (not just women) should be educated on HPV, the stats, and the realities. If you do not wish to be vaccinated or vaccinate your daughters then I hope you educate your sons and daughters on PREVENTION and routine screenings for the girls to save your daughters from experiencing cervical cancer in the future. If a woman is unfortunate enough to contract an HPV strain that may cause cancer, multiple pap smears are recommended annually. The gravest danger is when the cancer is caught past the earliest stages.
 

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I feel like the WORST non-vaxer on the planet.... I can't get the stupid jingle OUT of my head..... pls help!!<br><br>
the commercial is reprehensible BTW !! ridiculous and misleading
 

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" Studies have shown there are some specific vitamin and mineral deficiencies common among women who develop moderate to severe dysplasia or cancer"<br><br><br>
do you have the specific nutrient defficiencies linked with going on to develop dysplasia when exposed to the HPV strains?? thanks//<br><br>
I am stupid with these boards and can't get the quote feature to work right.. grrr, sorry, it was a plummeting post.. sorry
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">On a slight tangent, does anyone know if they are giving this vax to men? I mean, it is marketed for women but do they say whether it is safe for men or not? I am just wondering about that offical in TX and how he would get away with only vaxing the women.</div>
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I work at a restaurant and have seen MANY MANY pharmaceutical parties on this vaccine. The stats are ridiculous, (they are on powerpoint, so I see them while I'm serving) but the docs, nurses, and whoever else they bribe to come are all SO excited about it. :puke Many of the docs have asked why they can't vaccinate the boys, well one very annoyed pharmaceutical (I hope I'm spelling that right!) rep/scientist was very upset about that, he said that the FDA won't/hasn't approved it for males yet, and that they are working hard to get them to approve it, since it would help herd immunity. They are also super worried that people will stop getting pap smears since that is big business too (and important) so they were hoping to really stress that you still have to get pap smears, they were also trying to get reg docs not OB/GYN's to give the shot, so a 9yo doesn't have to go through the trauma of that kind of exam. Very weird presentation, obviously I was working, so these are just the snippets that I saw.<br>
I hate that commercial. I'm so glad that I'm almost 26 so I won't have to get pressured into getting it. I have only had one sexual partner, and he's only had one partner, I just have no risk factors for this!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'm so glad that I'm almost 26 so I won't have to get pressured into getting it.</div>
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Not only will Merck seek to raise the indication age on Gardasil, but GSK's Cervarix (not yet licensed) will be indicated for young <span style="text-decoration:underline;">and</span> older women.
 
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