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This is horrific. Children used for medical science, vaccine trials; vaccine records from trials allegedly asked to be destroyed: A prime time news report video is at the end:

GSK has even confirmed a child who was searching for her medical records for years was found to have been used unknowingly as a vaccine subject, an experiment, a guinea pig.

Bad science.

The Catholic nuns who ran the Bessborough mother and baby home, in County Cork, claim they were instructed in 2013 to destroy “all documents” relating to vaccine trials carried out on children in their care.

In the letter a total of 23 questions were posed concerning infant mortality, burials, financial records and, vaccine records. Among these questions Doyle asked where the “complete” list of vaccine records are and how children were chosen, whether the consent of the mother was obtained and, if so, where these consent forms are

Following this horrific revelation the Mother and Baby inquiry was established. A team of three commissioners is being led by Judge Yvonne Murphy. They are investigating what happened to more than 35,000 women and children placed in these home from c. 1922 to 1998. The inquiry is examining the mothers and children’s causes of deaths at the homes, burials, vaccine trials carried out on children, how residents ended up there, how they were treated and where they went afterwards will all form part of the mammoth inquiry.

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Ir...ordered-2013-destroy-child-vaccine-files.html
 

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Horrible. The Catholic orphanages and homes for "fallen women" in Ireland did some horrific things.

I recommend the film "Philomena" with Judy Dench if you want a good cry and to see a fictionalised version of some of the horrors.
 
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I recommend the film "Philomena" with Judy Dench if you want a good cry and to see a fictionalised version of some of the horrors.
"Philomena" was based on Philomena Lee's story.

Here is an interview with her here

According to that interview Irish law also made it hard for adopted children to find their parents.
 

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These horrific incidences are not just confined to mother-baby wardens in the past in Ireland. Has anything changed? The system has been and always will be a source of corruption when conducting trials, past and present, the covering up and destroying of vaccine trial records, the lack of parental consent and trials on unwilling children suspects. Too many factors get in the way of conducting these trials ethically. Notice these trials occur where many subjects are in one place, for easy access, as mentioned in the prime time video in the OP referring to the 60s. The case below from 2009 was conducted in the same manner, several schools, government-run hostel wardens, equals many children to use as clinical trials and guinea pigs.

In 2009, several schools for tribal children in Khammam district in Telangana — then a part of undivided Andhra Pradesh — became sites for observation studies for a cervical cancer vaccine that was administered to thousands of girls aged between nine and 15. The girls were administered the Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) vaccine in three rounds that year under the supervision of state health department officials. The vaccine used was Gardasil, manufactured by Merck. It was administered to around 16,000 girls in the district, many of whom stayed in state government-run hostels meant for tribal students.

Months later, many girls started falling ill and by 2010 five of them died. Two more deaths were reported from Vadodara, Gujarat, where an estimated 14,000 children studying in schools meant for tribal children were also vaccinated with another brand of HPV vaccine, Cervarix, manufactured by GSK. Earlier in the week, the Associated Press reported that scores of teenaged girls were hospitalised in a small town in northern Colombia with symptoms that parents suspect could be an adverse reaction to Gardasil.
House Panel blasts US agency PATH, ICMR for violating clinical trial norms:

The US based non profit agency PATH violated all laws and regulations laid down for clinical trials in this country while conducting HPV vaccines trials in Andhra Pradesh and Gujarat, a parliamentary standing committee on health said on Friday.

The house panel expresses deep shock that consent of subjects enrolled in trial were not taken properly, consent forms were carelessly filled up and were incomplete. "in A.P, out of 9543 forms, 1948 forms have thumb impressions while hostel wardens have signed 2763 forms. In Gujarat, out of 6217 forms, 3944 have thumb impression... revealed large number of parents/ guardians are illiterate," it noted.
http://articles.economictimes.india...s/41642159_1_hpv-vaccine-house-panel-gardasil
 

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The India case is horrific. :(

In this case, GSK gets a fine. The rest of us would be in the slammer for involuntary manslaughter. http://www.buenosairesherald.com/ar...ned-over-vaccine-tests-that-killed-14--babies

Mandatory vaccination programs are based on the utilitarian premise that it's necessary to sacrifice some children for the greater good of fighting disease; hence we see mechanisms in place like the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.

Everybody who adores universal vaccine compliance should send thank-you cards not just to NVICP children, but also to children who sacrificed their lives and health in these pharmaceutical trials. Your Greater Good wouldn't exist without its victims.
 
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