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Overreacting about a toy nerf 'gun'?

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Maybe I'm totally off base...I don't know. Tell me what you think, ladies!

My mom watched my son today ( 5yo ) for a few hours while I was working, and they went to the store. The toy my son apparently wanted was this Nerf dart game, with a dart board, a 'gun', and the 'bullets' are these foam/nerf things with a suction cup on the tip, so they stick to the board. Of course my mom bought it for him.
: She has such a hard time saying no to him...it makes me glad she doesn't watch him more.

I was beside myself upset about it, and its been very hard to contain my urge to throw it in the trash. My son, of course, loves it.
I'm worried that my negative reaction will only make him obsess over it even more. My first reaction was that it was going away...that we are not keeping it. But, he is SO upset about that.

I just don't know what to do. I've never even agreed to buy him a watergun (which he has been asking for), because anything that mimics a gun is not ok, imo. This thing, while bright orange and blue, has a trigger and handle just like a gun. It makes me so upset to even look at it.

WWYD???
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We do gun play here, so it wouldn't be an issue for us. I would be upset if you'd told your mother before you don't like guns in the house and she bought it. But if you didn't, I wouldn't think she would know.

I don't see anything wrong with it, but those are my parenting values not yours.
Can it be a "toy" just for grandmas house? I'm fairy anti "shooting" games as in look bad guys bang bang type games but I'm not anti target games or imagination role playing with in reason.

Deanna
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IMO? Let it go.
There are bigger fights to be fought. I have watched little boys bite pb&j sandwiches into the shape of guns
If they want to play guns, they will.

With my dd I quickly gave up on the no-disney-princess idea... caring, loving friends and family got her stuff, and she loved it.

I always had NO dolls/toys with bottles or pacifiers. She found a bar of SOAP and used it as a baby bottle


This is a little thing. Watch your boy and enjoy his enthusiasm. Don't get bogged down in something that doesn't matter in the big picture.

-Angela
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It must be really hard an upsetting seeing you baby holding something that goes against you philosophy. We try so hard to make the world beautiful and nuturing for our children, and the crap of the outside world keep pushing in. Sometimes it seems like relatives want to shatter you goals just to spite you.


I would let him keep it, but only play with it while supervised.

I think your instinct that the more you fight this the more he will obsess is correct. If he wants to play guns he's going to find a way. At least this one is about shooting a target, not anything living. I read an article (I think it was in Mothering
) about a year ago about how gun play is both somewhat inevitable and pretty harmless.

It is a toy that should have supervision though. Getting shot with one of those darts in the eye could do damage. I'm also guessing you don't want him shooting things around the house, such as a vase you inherited from your grandmother. It should never be pointed at anything living.

Actually, I'd probably get him the squirt gun to have when ever, since it would be less hazzardous than the nerf one. Then only take out the nerf one when your able to pay close attention. (I wouldn't use this as an excuse to get rid of it though, since I'd lik DS to learn about being careful.)

With any luck, it will be what my mom always called a "9 day wonder," basically a toy with a somewhat short lived appeal. DH bought DS a horrible plastic blinky car dashboard, DS lost intrest in it in under a week.
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I remember reading something that said even if you don't let kids have toy guns they will use a stick, their fingers, etc. to mimic a gun.

Before we had kids I thought I would do the no guns in my home rule. It didnt go well. My daughter wanted a lasso, toy gun with holster. She was fascinated with that stuff She is now an adult and is very gentle and caring to others.
We have a no gun policy here and my mom knows about it. She once bought water guns for the kids. I threw them away. My kids have always been very good about what they can and can't play with or watch on tv. I have 2 boys and they don't pretend to shot people. It can be done. So, I would say that you are not overreacting. People feel differntly about toy guns, some don't care and some do. If you do than your mom should too.
I have 4 boys and we have ( and have had) lots of nerf "guns", water guns/ space lasers , light sabers etc All have been brightly colored plastic. We never had anything that looked like "real" guns ( or knives, granades <yes they make waterballons that look like granades> swords or any weapon that looked real)
Kids know the difference. IMO there is a big difference "shooting" with water or dart target shooting than pretend killing/shooting.
When my oldest who is now 17 was small he started making guns out of legos to play with but when we were at my moms house and my brother took his hunting rifle out of the gun safe he came to sit beside me and said "mommy thats a REAL gun"
You can use it as a dialogue with your son about... What would you do if you saw a real gun... STOP -- Leave it alone -- Tell an adult We repeated it over and over.
In this day and age (God forbid) we need to prepare our kids if they would see of find a real gun.
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
IMO? Let it go.
There are bigger fights to be fought.
I agree. And I say this because this toy will likely be forgotten about in a few days or weeks. At that time it can magically disappear.
If it wasn't completely expensive then I doubt your mom will even remember it herself a few weeks from now. I've made so many unwanted toys in our house disappear over the years.
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Thanks ladies. Your words have helped me calm down a bit, and put it into perspective.
I think you are over reacting a bit.
It's a target shooting game with foam darts, not an AK-47.
If you really hate having it in your house, I'd tell your mom that you are keeping at her house.
You don't want to make it "forbidden fruit" and it's a good opportunity to talk to your child about gun safety (never aim it at anyone, what to do if he ever sees a real gun, etc).
Ya'know - you have to make up your own rules and be consistent - but it is good to honor the feelings and impulses of your child. You don't need to give in, but your kid is not going down a bad road by doing gun play.

My kids have beaten me down on a lot of gun play (we don't own any, but give them a stick and watch them go). It is everywhere, so my strategy now is to set rules that I feel are appropriate and stick with those. Yours may be different, and that is fine.

For us, it now is: no pretend shooting humans or animals, no threatening (unless part of the older kids game play - "I'm gonna get you" said in dramatic form, not anger, is fine if all agree), and always check to see if anyone around you, playing or not, is uncomfortable.

We also practice a lot changing the game to make everyone (usually me) more comfortable. Yesterday they started playing and I told them to change it up. The guns became machines to shoot out pins to pop the cloud, which could bring rain to the animals in a drought. I never know what they will come up with.

I'd get down with your DS and play darts - saying that each one is a countdown to space, or saving turtles, or whatever you make it.
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Originally Posted by Reha View Post
This thing, while bright orange and blue, has a trigger and handle just like a gun.
You have a right to remove things that upset you. My thought, however, is that the human hand came before the gun.
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I think you are over reacting a bit.
It's a target shooting game with foam darts, not an AK-47.
I am with the OP's first instincts. I actually am considering starting a campaign to get toy guns banned from our town parks.

It is unhealthy and scary for young children to pretend to shoot or kill others, as I heard a group of children doing with these Nerf guns yesterday. They are not real AK-47's but they look just like AK47's! I think this reinforces the killing is no big deal theme that is way too dominant in mainstream American culture, and they do it subconsciously on small children's psyches.

I'd go with a simply stated rule to Grandma and child (i.e. We don't play with guns at our house. In our family we believe in peace.) This is a slippery slope. I see violent handheld video games at 7, violent DVD's at 9 etc. if you don't draw a line.
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I feel so bad about this, I gave some of those little nerf style pistol guns as gifts. I thought they were fun like water guns and had not really thought about the gun angle, just the nerf angle.
For the most part I have to say I don't like nerf guns... The whole "nerf" idea is so you can shoot at people without hurting them. That is not something I think children need to learn, that when you point and pull the trigger nobody gets hurt.
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I'd be upset over things, but given the nature of that specific toy I would probably simply make a rule that it only gets pointed at the target and not at people or it will disappear.
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For the most part I have to say I don't like nerf guns... The whole "nerf" idea is so you can shoot at people without hurting them. That is not something I think children need to learn, that when you point and pull the trigger nobody gets hurt.
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That is a very good point. I will give this some thought as I am constantly revisiting the whole nerf toy issue in my mind and in my household.

OP, tough situation. I would feel the same as you. Not over this particular toy perhaps, but I can think of toys with which I'd feel equally uncomfortable. Some of the literature on this topic suggests that we would do better to embrace this kind of play with our children. How would you feel about doing that?
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I'd be upset over things, but given the nature of that specific toy I would probably simply make a rule that it only gets pointed at the target and not at people or it will disappear.
That's what we have settled with for now. DS knows that it is not to be pointed or shot at people or animals, and if it does, it will no longer be in our house.
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
IMO? Let it go.
There are bigger fights to be fought. I have watched little boys bite pb&j sandwiches into the shape of guns
If they want to play guns, they will.

Absolutely. My little girl did the same thing. I don't even know where she picked up the concept of shooting things, but somehow she did. She always likes to play those kind of "capture/shoot" games. I took the opportunity to make sure that she knows there's a difference between fun make believe and actually hurting someone. Her latest is to take a straw and call it her "fire stick" and throw "fire". I think it makes her feel like some sort of superhero or something.

I agree with "make it disappear" after the thrill wears off as well. In my experience, these sorts of toys don't really have a lot of appeal after a very short time. In our case, the fire stick straw has outlasted any of these store bought things.
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I am with the OP's first instincts. I actually am considering starting a campaign to get toy guns banned from our town parks.

It is unhealthy and scary for young children to pretend to shoot or kill others, as I heard a group of children doing with these Nerf guns yesterday. They are not real AK-47's but they look just like AK47's! I think this reinforces the killing is no big deal theme that is way too dominant in mainstream American culture, and they do it subconsciously on small children's psyches.

I'd go with a simply stated rule to Grandma and child (i.e. We don't play with guns at our house. In our family we believe in peace.) This is a slippery slope. I see violent handheld video games at 7, violent DVD's at 9 etc. if you don't draw a line.
So you think foam dart guns that are brightly colored yet have triggers are "gateway drugs" that will lead to Ak-47 toting teenagers? I don't see that.
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