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We are really in research mode --<br><br>
I have a question .... I think I have somewhat of a grasp of the general process ..... but I now find myself confused.<br><br>
When you look at rainbow kids -- the photo listing of some waiting children. The website says that you should be "paper ready" to contact the adgenc listed about the child in question. there are children from many adgencies.<br><br>
welllllllllllllll I take paper ready to mean having a homestudy done and maybe your immigaration paperwork? correct?<br><br>
Well -- by the time you have all that done wouldn't you already be conmitted to a adrgency / program / country ?????<br><br>
I guess i am confused how you could be "ready for a match" and not on a track somehwere and thus able to contact a adgency about a specific child off the photo listing???<br><br>
Does that question make any sense?<br><br>
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well, you could have your home study done by a separate agency/entity- and then after a match is made, you could have that home study ammended to meet the guidelines of that specific country (as well as any changes in your home since the hs was completed, or just a plain ole update, because they expire eventually, too). but as far as the other stuff is concerned, i don't know a ton about IA. Can you submit your paperwork to immigration when you aren't sure which country?<br><br>
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Where we live, you get the homestudy and all the paperwork done locally (for us, territorially, for the rest of Canada, provincially). Some people commit to an agency before or during this process, but we didn't/haven't. We had to move to a bigger space to complete our homestudy, so our homestudy isn't quite finished. We knew the bedroom issue was an issue before even starting the process, but housing is so difficult to secure up here that we decided to move ahead in faith that something would turn up. Thankfully, it did! We have chosen an agency and they treat us as though we were formally "theirs", but no money has changed hands at this point - at their request! They want us to be certain of what we want and to have completed the homestudy before we pay and commit to their specific agency. That's their policy with everyone, actually. They can't be alone in it, so there have to be a number of agency-less paper ready people out there. Re immigration, it was my understandinig that you needed a specific child to complete that process. (?)
 

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it is my understanding that in the US -- part of the process has to be done before teh dossier is "complete"
 

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I guess I need to look into that part of things a little more! We're not quite there yet, so I haven't paid much attention. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"> Could be a Canada/US difference thing, but the two countries are often quite similar...<br>
We sometimes talk about proceeding sans agency, and then we remember things like this, for which it is so, so nice to have an agency.<br><br>
Is it possible that some agencies have collaboration agreements? Like agency A has the photo listing, your agency is B, but A and B have agreed to communicate and/or share costs if you are interested in a child from agency A? Maybe that only works in my head?<br><br>
Momma Aimee - are you guys submitting paperwork? So exciting!
 

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I did the reading a couple of years ago -- and while you can not get the visa without the child -- there is immigaration paperwork to be done as part of the dossier<br><br>
again -- or so was my understanding of it<br><br>
Not submitting paper work YET -- we haven't settled on a country -- and we are still deciding if we want to persue a sib set or not .... but we are working out way that way ...<br><br>
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My understanding of it is that you can file the paperwork with Immigration with or without a particular child in mind. We are adopting from China and we had to fill out a I-600A as part of the process before we could send our dossier to China before getting a referral. If you find a child on Rainbowkids I think you would just do that step as a part of getting your dossier together to request that particular child.<br><br>
As for what paper-ready means, I've always interpreted that to mean you have a completed homestudy. I could be wrong, though.
 

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I take paperwork-ready to mean that you have completed your homestudy- you've filled out all the forms, taken whatever classes your homestudy agency wants you to take, you've had all of the criminal background checks run, etc. Many times the homestudy agency will wait to write up the papers until you've decided on a program, because different programs ask for different information. I think that a lot of people decide on a program somewhere between the time they start the homestudy process and they finish it.<br><br>
As for starting the immigration paperwork, you do NOT need to have a specific child in mind before filing the I-600A. In fact, it takes so long to process the immigration forms that many agencies suggest filing immigration paperwork at the beginning of the process. That way, by the time you have your fingerprinting appointment and get that approval, hopefully your homestudy will be finished.
 

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Yup. You can get your homestudy done with an agency, THEN look for potential WC matches. You can also file your I-600A in preparation, but not everybody does.<br><br>
Many times agencies don't seem to release WC info unless a family can give them a copy of their homestudy. They want to know you're ready to move ahead, and won't have to wait the 2-4 months for a homestudy to be completed.<br><br>
I've never looked into "paper ready" specifically, but when people I know on different boards talk about inquiring about a WC, they typically mention having to mail/fax the agency a homestudy before the WC file can be released.
 

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The first part of US Immigration is approving your family to sponsor a child. The second part is approving that the specific child qualifies for the orphan visa. So, you can file with Immigration without a child in mind. You do need to specify a country. But, you can change countries after you recieve your approval by filing an ammendum and it takes something like 2 weeks to forward the case to the different Embassy.<br><br>
Typically agencies want you 'paper ready' to mean at least your homestudy completed but sometimes they want immigration already filed as well. The main reason for asking this is to guarantee you are going to pass homestudy and be able to adopt the child in question. We've found that we never needed to be paper ready after the first adoption because we can submit our last homestudy as a preliminary and as reasonable assurance that we're going to pass another homestudy. But, we've only inquired on special needs children. For healthy child programs that would never work.
 
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