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I thought the only issue with people opting out of vaccines was because of the mercury in them. My pediatrician is very pro-vax and I guess I just trusted her. She did her residency at a highly regarded children’s hospital where she said she saw a lot of families dealing with the heartache of vaccine preventable diseases because they did not have a choice as to whether or not their children would be vaccinated. She said the parents there would have given their right arm to have access to the vaccines we have here in the United States. So I followed my pediatrician’s vaccine schedule. My ds is now 5 1/2 months old and I just came across the vaccine forum and started reading threads from it this morning. I am now crying and I feel really ill. I feel really scared. Ds has had his two month and four month old shots and is scheduled for his six month old shots in two weeks. Should I cancel? I don't have a medical degree (just a B.A. in psychology) and honestly, I feel like some of the information in the stickies is over my head. I really want to do the best for my ds. He has GERD and is on two different types of medicine given twice daily. Other than that he appears to be healthy. I really want to keep it that way. Any advice would be really appreciated. Thanks mamas.
 

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My advice is to take a breath, calm down, have a nice up of tea/coffee and delay his next vax appointment until you have time to process all the information.<br><br>
Don't feel bad, it's a waste of energy. I vaxed my daughter until 6mos before I was ready to read this forum. Then I decided to delay her next shots, then I just never went back.
 

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Agreed. Calm down, cancel the appointment and begin your own research for a while. You are here now, so don't focus onthe past. It is time to see how complex this issue is. There are no quick answers.<br><br>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> I vax'd my first until 15 months. Take a few deep breaths like the pp suggested and collect yourself. You can call and cancel the appt and start looking for a new doc if you feel this one will give you too much crap for waiting until you've done more reading and research. I agree that it can be pretty overwhelming when you first start looking into it, hence why my first is vax'd. Take it a little bit at a time, start with one disease/vax and research it until you're comfortable with your knowledge on it and then do another. Taking little bites like that will help make it more manageable. And don't worry about not having a medical degree, I think if you or any of us, knew how much (or how little) education drs actually have on vaxs, the immune system, etc our hair would be standing on end. They're human too, not God, and they can only learn and retain so much info. You have the advantage of being able to concentrate on this one particular area of learning instead of trying to get a general overview of many different areas. What's done is done, and unless you know of a time machine you can't go back and change what's already happen. But you can prevent more vaxs being injected into him until you're sure that it's what you want to do.
 

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Just wanted to add, the doctor is talking about a hospital in a poor country, right? Vaxes are done worldwide, so lots of the children she saw in the hospital had been vaxed and were sick anyway. Or they got diseases that wouldn't have been life-threatening if the kids had been living in reasonably good housing with clean water and enough to eat.<br><br>
This is a common argument from doctors, but it doesn't hold nearly as much water as they think. I'm 57 and had several so-called VPDs as a child. None of them were life-threatening for me or my siblings (5 of us) because we were adequately nourished, etc.
 

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I totally understand where you are coming from! Big hugs, you are a wonderful mother. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
I had no clue that vaccines were even a choice. Not once did my pedi discuss any pros or cons to them, just assumed we'd get them. My daughter was vaxed until she was two, when I then started asking questions about them. I didn't like the answers I had found at all <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
My son is selectively vaxed. The health department in town absolutely hates me and lectures me every time I bring him in for ONE shot, several months apart. But its my choice, just like its YOUR choice, so don't ever let anyone make you feel bad for your decisions. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/hug2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Hug2">
 

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I know how you feel, too. I had no clue when my first son was born and blindly went along and let the doc vax him for everything. I never even thought twice about it! When I discovered this board during my pregnancy with ds2 and started reading about vaccines, I was absolutely horrified by what I was learning. The good thing for you is that you've discovered this now, while your ds is still very little.<br><br>
Since your ped is very pro-vax, as you stated, my advice is to cancel the appointment for the time being and research, research, research! Keep in mind that many pro-vax peds will "fire" you when they learn that you will not (or will no longer) vax. If your ped will continue to see your ds, you will at the very least get a lecture and a lot of pressure to vax at each visit. I was amazed at the intense pressure and false information given to me by the "non-vax friendly" ped that I took my baby to last week for his 2 mo. WBV. The ped actually told me, among other things, that 30% of people who contract measles will die. Thanks to the knowledge I've gained through my research, I knew it was not true. It will really help you to stay strong if you have researched the issues surrounding each vaccine and know the truth. Otherwise, it's easy to fall victim to the scare tactics.
 

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I have been there too<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/hug2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Hug2"><br><br>
I feel sick about all the vaxes my son received, and guilty (for him) but grateful (for her) that my dd did not get them.<br><br>
Once you read up on it you will feel comfortable not vaxing.<br><br>
There is so much to learn about vaxes, and in the beginning I found it was best to stick with numbers and ingredients rather than to read all the anti-vax web sites because they might seem a little out there if you're new at this.<br><br>
So I'll just give my current favorite "VPDs used to kill us all" argument and then stop because you're overwhelmed already: In 1920, 7,575 people in the U.S. died from measles. In 1962 (the year before the vax came out) 408 people died. That's almost a 95% decrease even without a vax! Your doctor probably doesn't realize things like that. I know I didn't have time in teaching school to read beyond what was required, and your doctor probably didn't have time in medical school either. (Okay, I'm being really nice to your dr and giving her the benefit of the doubt!)
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> Many of us have been in your shoes. It takes time to process everything, to quell your emotions, and to wrap your brain around a different school of thought.<br><br>
Cancel the appointment and give yourself that time. Vaxes are on a schedule for compliance, not b/c THIS vax NEEDS to be given when baby is XXXX old.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">My pediatrician is very pro-vax<br><br>
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She did her residency at a highly regarded children’s hospital where she said she saw a lot of families dealing with the heartache of vaccine preventable diseases because they did not have a choice as to whether or not their children would be vaccinated. She said the parents there would have given their right arm to have access to the vaccines we have here in the United States.</div>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">if you or any of us, knew how much (or how little) education drs actually have on vaxs, the immune system, etc our hair would be standing on end.</div>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">This is a common argument from doctors, but it doesn't hold nearly as much water as they think.</div>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">I was amazed at the intense pressure and false information given to me by the "non-vax friendly" ped that I took my baby to last week for his 2 mo. WBV. The ped actually told me, among other things, that 30% of people who contract measles will die.</div>
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jenniet,<br><a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=446739" target="_blank">this thread</a> is a must read before you see a pediatrician again!<br><br>
Welcome to the vax forum, mama!
 

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FIRST... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/hug2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Hug2"> and now take a deep breath. I think many of us here have been in your shoes before. I fully vaxed my little guy thru his 4 month appt. I had just started reading about vax reactions 2 weeks before his 4 month appt. I truly regret that I didn't cancel it and do my homework first! My ped talked me into getting his 4 month shots...said it was perfectly safe, etc. Made me feel like a fool for reading stuff on the internet, etc. On the way home I felt sick to my stomach because I knew better...but didn't do better! From that point forward I started reading...and researching...and talking to friends.<br><br>
Now, no more vaxes for my guy. He just turned 1 04/10 and hasn't had any vaccines since his 4 month appt.<br><br>
There is lots to read and lots of scary things out there...there are lots of great mamas here!
 

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Since others have already addressed your vax concerns, I'm just going to ask if you've tried an elimination diet for your son's GERD? Since you're at MDC, it's probably already been mentioned to you, but I thought I'd mention it again, just in case. GERD in infants is usually related to food intolerance, most frequently dairy or soy. Infants can react to something in your milk and you'd need to eliminate both dairy and soy for 3 weeks to notice any changes. Dairy is a hidden ingredient in many packaged products, often included in "natural flavorings" - same for soy, actually. If your doctor doesn't keep up with the latest news, and most of them don't, then she won't know this. Several docs told me DD's GERD was not related to food intolerances, but about two weeks after cutting our dairy and soy, she was "cured" and every time I tried to add them back in, she had a "relapse". DD had also been prescribed Reglan and Zantac. Because of the high rate of serious side effects with Reglan, I did not give it to her, but we did do the Zantac until we worked it all out with the elimination diet.
 

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Thank you all so much for taking the time to reply. I am thinking of changing pediatricians. In the meantime I have a lot of research to do.<br>
Plummeting~ I have tried eliminating dairy and it didn't make a difference. However, I have not heard about getting rid of the soy in my diet. I will try that. Thank you.<br>
i'mmykid'$mom~ Thank you for you PM. I have already started reading more about vaccines.<br>
Deborah~ The doctor was talking about a hospital in the U.S. that gets a lot of poor immigrants as patients. I never thought about their living conditions being poor. Thank you for your input.
 

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Jenniet.... I will just ditto what everyone else has said w/ a couple of additions:<br><br>
Dairy takes a LONG time to get out of our systems -- up to 12 weeks so eliminating for just a week or two might not be enough. Secondly, it is usually teh caesin that kids react to in dairy and that is often in soy (thus, the problems w/ soy as well).<br><br>
Additionally, you might have a difficult time finding a pediatrician who is non-vax friendly so you might consider a Family Practice Doc instead. They can sometimes be more open minded.<br><br>
Read up -- I'm a psych major too and was a bit overwhelmed at the start of this journey, but I managed to figure it out. You will too!!!!! *hugs*
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Deborah~ The doctor was talking about a hospital in the U.S. that gets a lot of poor immigrants as patients. I never thought about their living conditions being poor. Thank you for your input.</div>
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I guess these aren't Mexican immigrants whose country has a %95 vaccination rate? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/loveeyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Loveeyes">:
 
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