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I wish I'd look into vaccines sooner, but I didn't. After reading up on it I'd rather skip them all together, but dh won't go for that. So we've compromised on looking into a delayed vax schedule for my ds. I'd rather have him recieve less at one time to check for reactions and to reduce the amount of crap they are injecting him with in his system at any given time. So far we've had all the normal vaccines through 4 months (Hep B at birth and 1month, and then at the 2 month and 4 month visit we had DTaP, Hib, Polio, and PCV).<br><br>
So, I'm in a quandry as to where to go from here. I don't know what vax I should have him get (on a delayed schedule) and when. I want to have it all written out by his 6 month visit in July so we can discuss it with his ped (should be a fun discussion).<br><br>
Suggestions?<br><br>
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JMHO-I think that you need to do some more research and discuss this further with your dh.<br><br>
There are definitely moms here who do a delayed schedule (you might want to do a thread search in this forum), but it sounds to me like you really don't want to do the vaxxes and that he hasn't looked into it at all. You can always delay the shots until you are comfortable with your decision either way, but you can't give vaccines and then take them back.<br><br>
Research that you do will solidify in your mind what the right decision for your family is. You may come to the conclusion that you do want to do some delayed vaxxes or you may decide that no more will be given. But, you want to make a totally informed decision because this is important stuff.<br><br>
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My suggestion is to give the kid a break. You've injected more than enough for a 6 mo old little body. He's had his share of mercury and aluminum and formaldehyde. Put all others off until you and dh have done more research.<br><br>
Tell him you will vaccinate but not till you both read a few books and get a broader view of the subject. He owes his son that much.<br><br><br>
Here is an article from <a href="http:/vaccines/buttram1.html" target="_blank"><b>Dr. Harold Buttram</b></a>. I really respect him, maybe if your husband reads this article he will at least want to explore the issue further.<br><br>
Good luck!
 

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I agree that you should hold off and do some more research along with your husband. It seems you would be able to come to the answer yourself if you did this. However, I hate not answering your question specifically so I will try (although I will say my 9 mo old is vax free).<br><br>
It seems that at the six month appt. your child would be getting all the same shots again. I will tell you which vaccines were the easiest for me to say no to.<br>
Hep B because babies are not at risk.<br>
Polio because there haven't been any cases here for years.<br>
PCV because it is so new and that scares me.<br>
DTaP because the adverse reactions are so widespread and documented.<br><br>
So I guess that leaves Hib, but I feel that with this vax, we are solving a problem that will only be replaced by another, perhaps worse problem.<br><br>
Maybe this info coupled with more research will lead you on the right path.<br><br>
I do want to emphasize that you can always vaccinate your child, but you can't unvaccinate him once it is done.
 

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If my DH were to tell me he insists on vaxxing, I would tell him he must then read 2 books, if he's unwilling then he doesn't get a choice in the matter <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> :<br><br><br>
I found these books really helpful because though they are against vaccines, they lay out the pros and cons of each vaccine, and tell you the dangers of the vaccine and the dangers of the disease...<br><br>
"THe VAccine Guide" by Randall Neustaedter<br>
""What the Doctor May Not tell you about Children's Vaccinations" by Stephanie Cave, MD<br><br><br>
You should definitely read more about all vaccines, and most especially the HepB vaccine because in my opinion it's quite dangerous. I have a student who is suffering with Tourette's after his 3rd booster of HepB
 

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User friendly vaccine schedule<br><a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/******/miller15.html" target="_blank">http://www.lewrockwell.com/******/miller15.html</a>
 

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From Kim's article<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">In summary, this is a vaccination schedule that I would recommend:<br><br>
1. No vaccinations until a child is two years old.<br>
2. No vaccines that contain thimerosal (mercury).<br>
3. No live virus vaccines (except for smallpox, should it recur).<br>
4. These vaccines, to be given one at a time, every six months, beginning at age 2:<br>
1. Pertussis (acellular, not whole cell)<br>
2. Diphtheria<br>
3. Tetanus<br>
4. Polio (the Salk vaccine, cultured in human cells)<br></td>
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cultured in human cells means the cells of an aborted fetus.<br><br>
I disagree with the tetanus because if the wound bleeds even just a teeny bit , the risk for tetanus is extremely low.<br><br>
I notice he mentions NO mercury. That's awesome. He doesn't address the other harmful heavy metals. Or antifreeze.<br><br>
However ,if I were even slightly inclined to vax , I'd be much more agreeable to this man's schedule than any other I've ever read. One vax every six months as opposed to twelve in ONE visit...... simple math there.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">From Kim's article<br><br><br><br>
cultured in human cells means the cells of an aborted fetus.<br><br>
I disagree with the tetanus because if the wound bleeds even just a teeny bit , the risk for tetanus is extremely low.<br><br>
I notice he mentions NO mercury. That's awesome. He doesn't address the other harmful heavy metals. Or antifreeze.<br><br>
However ,if I were even slightly inclined to vax , I'd be much more agreeable to this man's schedule than any other I've ever read. One vax every six months as opposed to twelve in ONE visit...... simple math there.</div>
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If you follow this schedule you would only vax for tetnaus and polio, unless you lived in Canada where you would get no vaxxes by following it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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Thanks for all the advice and resources. I have a lot of research to do (and am already doing a lot!). I'll put some of the burden of research on DH too!<br><br>
One more question I can't find an answer to, why do they require three sets of DTaP, Hib, Polio, and PCV? It seems like if ds was going to get any immunity from it he should get it after one or two. Just curious, if we do choose to vax at all, if there would be any point at all of getting those again. I haven't found any resources that say either way so if you know of any let me know.<br><br>
I also frequent a mainstream board (to get some non-mainstream views out <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">) Anyways, the vax question came up today on the board so I posted a bunch of the resources here. One mom already messaged me to say she's going to do more research and she never new she had a choice. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Just had to share! I believe that whatever decision one makes is the right one for them if it's well researched.<br><br><br><br>
Thanks so much!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I believe that whatever decision one makes is the right one for them if it's well researched.</div>
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This is the bottom line for me. If people do the research and still come to the conclusion that vaxxing is right for their family, I'm totally o.k. with that. It's the fact that most of us have not done the reseach because we think that doctors are gods (present company included). We really think they know best and boy is it an eye-opener when we finally realize that (shhh) THEY'RE HUMAN TOO! They don't know everything about everything medical. One thing I learned a long time ago is that everyone needs to be respoinsible for their own health. This is the biggest message about vaccines we can get out---"Do the research and then decide for yourself where you come down on this issue. Don't let others (even authority figures) make your decisions for you"<br><br>
o.k. I'm getting off my soapbox now... :LOL
 

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ITA. I can't say that I am completely anti-vax because I respect those who do their research and come to the decision to vax. Although I don't think I will ever agree with the hep B or chicken pox vax--the reasoning behind those two vax elude me completely and always will. The others--I think arguements can be made for them.<br><br>
Although I know some people make their decision with 100% confidence, IMO the majority of us will doubt ourselves no matter which choice we make. It is a tough decision and both sides are filled with fear. Who am I to judge?
 
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