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Guess it took 10K U.S. casualties but it was bound to happen sooner than later....<br><br>
"President Bush heads into his second term amid deep and growing public skepticism about the Iraq war, with a solid majority saying for the first time that the war was a mistake and most people believing that Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld should lose his job, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.<br><br>
"While a slight majority believe the Iraq war contributed to the long-term security of the United States, 70 percent of Americans think these gains have come at an "unacceptable" cost in military casualties. This led 56 percent to conclude that, given the cost, the conflict there was "not worth fighting" -- an eight-point increase from when the same question was asked this summer, and the first time a decisive majority of people have reached this conclusion."<br><br>
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Well, it's about time. People can be slow on the uptake here.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">first thing through my head...some of those same people must be the ones who think muslims should be "restricted"...</div>
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and some of the same ones who re-elected W <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rolleyes"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shake.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shake">
 

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Four more years!<br>
Four more years!<br>
Four more years!<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/ROTFLMAO.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rotflmao"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/ROTFLMAO.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rotflmao"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/ROTFLMAO.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rotflmao">
 

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<a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/horsey/viewbydate.asp?id=1132" target="_blank">http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/horsey...te.asp?id=1132</a><br><br>
Horsey gets it right again! Rumsfeld has to go.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">first thing through my head...some of those same people must be the ones who think muslims should be "restricted"...</div>
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Yes. I trust my fellow Americans about as far as I can throw them on a cold day with my bad knee.
 

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During the 2000 election I continually argued that Bush was actually much more conservative than he was presenting himself and we would have a war-prone, bigot of a president on our hands if he was elected.<br><br>
"Oh no, he's a compassionate conservative." <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"><br><br>
I could take much more joy in being right if it didn't mean increasing poverty, death & war. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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Another 'Inaugural Week' Special...<br><br><b>Majority of Americans disapprove of Bush's Iraq policy, polls say</b><br><br>
"Despite President George W. Bush's belief that by reelecting him Americans expressed support for the war on Iraq, <b>two opinion polls</b> published showed the opposite: <b>the majority</b> think the war was a <b>mistake and disapprove</b> of the way he is handling things in Iraq.<br><br>
"Shortly before Bush's inauguration for his second term in office, and after he said in an interview that the 2004 election result proved that electorate approved of his handling of the war, a Washington Post/ABC News poll showed that <b>55 percent</b> of Americans felt the Iraq war was <b>not worth fighting</b>, against 44 percent who thought it was.<br><br>
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"Similarly, a USA Today/CNN/Gallup poll published in the nationally distributed newspaper showed that Americans believed it was a <b>mistake</b> sending troops to Iraq by a <b>52-to-47</b> percent margin."<br><br>
More here:<br><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1506&u=/afp/20050118/ts_alt_afp/usiraqpolls&printer=1" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...olls&printer=1</a><br><br>
Get 'em here folks:<br><a href="http://www.cafepress.com/dumpbushnow.14567541" target="_blank">http://www.cafepress.com/dumpbushnow.14567541</a>
 

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Yet despite what the polls may say (after all, we don't believe in the accuracy of polls in this country, do we? especially not exit polls on election day!), this president still believes he has a mandate, courtesy of his (landslide?) win on election day... truly, to have a mandate, you must believe that you won by a landslide. Rather, this president won narrowly thanks to massive voter suppression, Republican-supporting company controlled electronic voting machines and ultimately, I believe, fraud.<br><br>
Yes Mr. President, you have a mandate to govern because everyone voted for you... he truly is hell-bent on getting his sychophants into positions of power so he can further bury himself in "yes" men and women. He will not allow in any dissenting opinion or policy advice... gee, sounds a lot like some Middle Eastern dictators I know...
 

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This finding is so depressing to me.<br><br>
Honestly, I felt better when people actually *supported* the policies. They may have been making decisions that revolted me, but <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"> Now all I can think is, "For *WHAT*?"
 

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Yet another poll:<br><br>
"The poll, conducted Saturday through Monday, found that the percentage of Americans who believed the situation in Iraq was "worth going to war over" had sunk to a <b>new low of 39%</b>. When the same question was asked in a similar poll in October, 44% said it had been worth going to war.<br><br>
"But when asked whether the United States should begin withdrawing troops after Iraq's election Jan. 30, 52% said the administration should wait to see what the new Iraqi government wanted. More than a third, 37%, said the United States should begin drawing down at least some of its troop strength."<br><br>
More here:<br><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2026&u=/latimests/20050119/ts_latimes/supportforwariniraqhitsnewlow&printer=1" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...wlow&printer=1</a>
 
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