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Someone asked a few posts back and I thought I would reply (When can you get an IUD):<br><br>
The 3 people that I know with IUDs had them put in 1 month after they had their baby (they were all about to get axed from Mcaid).<br><br>
They scare me too. I found out shortly after I got prego that my mom had gotten prego with me while on BC. After she had me she had an IUD for 1 year. After that they were ready for baby #2 and they took out the IUD. My mother has never been on birth control since, and never got pregnant. She "feels" like it created scar tissue and spermies can't get through.<br><br>
She said it was meant to be, one baby was fine with her (she's probably just saying that <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue"> ).<br><br>
I know they have come a long way since my mom had one it (I am 25), but I still don't "feel" right about them.
 

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I am really uncomfortable with taking drugs like the pill or medical interventions or items left in my body...that kinda stuff really freaks me out. So, DH and I have been having sex for over 7 years using withdrawl only. It took us about 3-5 months of trying to make a babe...we didn't keep real close tabs on when I was ovulating.<br><br>
We'll stick with this method. I am really thankful that it has worked for us...with my aversion to the other stuff!
 

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I don't think I could ever use an IUD. But I think that's just general paranoia based on the fact that my own mother had one after my baby sister was born, and well... that's the reason we were a two-kid family. Mom had so much scarring that she couldn't have another baby after my little sis, and the Dalkon Shield Class Action lawsuit money paid for our first house. I know things have really, really improved since then and are far likelier to be safe, but it's really hard to get over the deep squick at the idea, you know?<br><br>
I think we'll try charting/avoidance for a while. I'm really curious as to what my cycles will look like when they come back -- whether they'll revert to their previous pre- chinese medicine, infertile, Mt. Fugi-like pattern, or if I'll get something that looks like the one normal cycle I've ever had... the one that became this kiddo. I guess if they look fertile, DH is going to have to suck it up and deal with condoms again. Poor boy! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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Well, this is our last, so we're looking into longer term, more permanent methods this time around. We're thinking of The big V for DH, but it kinda gives me the willies to do something <i>so</i> permanent. I'm planning on talking to my midwife about IUD next time I see her. I want her input about it before we make any decisions.<br><br><br>
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I started the patch after my second was born (count me in with the "extremely fertile" group) and had no problems except putting it on a patch of skin that rubbed against my underwear in an uncomfortable way. Much simpler than remembering to take a pill each day - I'd never remember!
 

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Mirena IUD hands down!!! I got one post partum with my son and had it until I was ready to get pregnant this time. I LOVED it!!! I too was freaked about it but had talked to so many people who loved theirs. It was the best BC I ever used and I tried pretty much everything and felt ok with charting...but not ok enough to take a chance. ; )<br><br>
I am getting one again 2-3 months postpartum this time. The hormonal dose is local (vs systemic with any bc progestin only pill) and so small that you can get one 6-12 week post birth.<br><br>
Mirena statistically has very good effectiveness rates and not lots of long term problems 3-4 months after insertion. It (or a variant of it) has been used in Europe longer than in the US quite successfully. It is a vast improvement over the IUD's previously marketed to earlier generations of women in the US.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Mirena IUD hands down!!! I got one post partum with my son and had it until I was ready to get pregnant this time. I LOVED it!!! I too was freaked about it but had talked to so many people who loved theirs. It was the best BC I ever used and I tried pretty much everything and felt ok with charting...but not ok enough to take a chance. ; )<br><br>
I am getting one again 2-3 months postpartum this time. The hormonal dose is local (vs systemic with any bc progestin only pill) and so small that you can get one 6-12 week post birth.<br><br>
Mirena statistically has very good effectiveness rates and not lots of long term problems 3-4 months after insertion. It (or a variant of it) has been used in Europe longer than in the US quite successfully. It is a vast improvement over the IUD's previously marketed to earlier generations of women in the US.</div>
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But just like anyother method, it does have its faults that make it inappropriate for others. Some people cannot handle hormones period and some people can feel it. Mine, for the most part, has been great but I do feel it occasionally and what it does to DH's genetalia occaionally is no good.
 

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No one else uses the diaphragm? I used it as a backup to ecological breastfeeding for the first 6 months after DS was born. Worked fine for me. Since its 70% effective after a vaginal birth, and breastfeeding is about 98% effective for the first six months I felt very safe. (Okay, sometimes I was lazy and just used Vaginal Contraceptive Film instead of the diaphragm - available in drugstores, its a little piece of plastic-y film that dissolves into spermacide in the vagina when its inserted. Very easy and I had no unpleasent side effects.)<br><br>
How's this for fertile: both time DH and I tried to conceive it took less than 20 days to get pregnant! That's why I was too paranoid to trust breastfeeding at first, but after 6 months I was ready for another baby anyway and I had an anovulatory cycle before my first post-partum ovulation, which is very common. So, I knew exactly when I was fertile again (and I knew when my body started gearing up the month beforehand).<br><br>
No judgement on other's beliefs from me, but I am not comfortable with the IUD because it does not prevent fertilization, only implantation - which I do not feel is an ethical decision <b>for me</b>...
 

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I used a diaphragm for years, and it was fine. Someone said they had read 80% effectiveness rate, which seems low to me, but I believe that might be diaphragm used solo-they are intended to be used with spemicide, which bumps them up to the high 90s.<br><br>
I will probably use condoms for a bit, and then get another diaphram or even a cervical cap if I can find anyone around here who fits them. I'd love to be good enough at charting so I only have to use them during the fertile period, but I didn't have great luck with charting before, and it's not easy to do with a baby around (interruptions of sleep, etc).<br><br>
Frankly I am curious if those of you using withdrawl find it a satisfactory method, effectiveness aside.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I used a diaphragm for years, and it was fine. Someone said they had read 80% effectiveness rate, which seems low to me, but I believe that might be diaphragm used solo-they are intended to be used with spemicide, which bumps them up to the high 90s.</div>
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Nope, that's using spermicide. Failure rate is around 20% during one year of use according to <a href="http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/1997/conceptbl.html" target="_blank">FDA Birth Control Guide website</a> - that's actual use. In theory, perfect use has only a 6% failure rate per year of use. BUT, I've read several places that after a vaginal birth its actually lower than that - more like 70%. That's about the same as using just spermicide (like the VCF I mentioned).
 

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A cervical cap is how I got pregnant with my first daughter...beware the tilted uterus! And inexperienced fitter! Apparently, some people are not meant to have them.<br><br>
I got mine from the local college. It didn't seem like a disagreeable method...if your body is of the right type.
 

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QofC, Wow! Thanks for the link, I think I'm still using theoretical rates from when I took health class, which was a few billion years ago.<br><br>
Actually I just took another look, and it's pretty complicated.The first column includes whether or not most people who use something as their main method will use it every single time. I'm enough of a weenie that before I started TTC, I never had unprotected sex.<br><br>
BUT it also includes incorrect use, I wish somehow you could separate out the results into a) typical use rates b) failure to use correctly(Including poor fitting c) used correctly and still failed. I suspect this means the rate falls somewhere between 20% and 6%<br><br>
I know for example that people using NFP for spacing children, have high rates of failure, while people using it to avoid conception completely have fairly low rates. So comittment to/comfort with your method makes a difference in it's effectiveness rate.
 

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I am surprised at how many people do not use condoms. They are not really a big deal for us. In fact, before we TTC Ben, we used condoms and the pill, because DH was paranoid. :LOL I got off the pill in Jan 2000 and we conceived Ben in June, the first month we decided to "go for it" after I had been charting for those 5 months.<br><br>
AF came back at 6mo PP, but we used condoms after that, because I loved charting and knowing what my body was doing and did not want to go back to hormones. After Ben was born, I became *very* regular, and had Ovulation pain like clockwork. So with the pain and the CM, I just knew when I was Oing, so we used condoms before O and then afterwards had "free sex time". <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><br><br>
When we finally decided to TTC #2, it took 9 months! I have no idea why, since my O was still textbook regular and our timing was right. Must have just been my age, I guess.<br><br>
Thanks for the body fat info, based on that, I dont think ecological BFing will work for me (bummer!) so I guess AF will show up early again. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: We'll probably use condoms and NFP for a year or so and then consider letting nature take its course a little earlier than we might be actually ready to TTC#3, since it took so long last time and I am not getting any younger.
 

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Not taking drugs or having a foreign object left inside of me (while getting to enjoy sex without complexity) is what I like the most like about withdrawl. Yeah, I am satisfied with it. But it has just worked for us for all these years. I am really thankful that it has worked for us b/c I have such strong aversions to any other method.
 

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Honestly, the reason that I personally hate condoms is their taste & smell. Once DP puts one on, his penis is latex flavored, my yoni is latex scented, I don't want to go down on him anymore (until after his next shower) or else my whole mouth is latex-smelly & then I don't want to kiss him, & as soon as I put my hand on him, my hand becomes latex-smelly. It's all such a turn off for me. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Honestly, the reason that I personally hate condoms is their taste & smell. Once DP puts one on, his penis is latex flavored, my yoni is latex scented, I don't want to go down on him anymore (until after his next shower) or else my whole mouth is latex-smelly & then I don't want to kiss him, & as soon as I put my hand on him, my hand becomes latex-smelly. It's all such a turn off for me. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"></div>
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There are some condoms now made of nitrile, which is less stinky. I haven't tried them so I can't say if they're any good or not! Of course there's always lambskin condoms too, but if you're a vegetarian the thought of sheep intestine on/in your equipment kind of leaves you where it found you! Plus they're expensive.<br><br>
We don't really have a clear plan here with this. Before TTC we used the patch but didn't like it too much (and I've actually read that it is having a higher death risk than the pill, maybe due to different system of hormonal delivery/way your body metabolizes it.) We decided to go off the patch, then we charted to avoid for almost a year with condoms sometimes during fertile periods, and then started trying to make a baby. Since we have only been together (well, having sex anyway!) for about 2.5 years, and we've been pregnant for a chunk of that, it's hard to say how this is going to work out. We were pretty happy with charting and condoms, but it's hard to say how that will all work out with nursing/taking care of a baby. After a year of "free" sex between TTC and being pregnant, it will be hard to go back to the farm after seeing gay Paree!<br><br>
I've used the diaphram and cervical cap and the pill and various spermicides before, and can't say I've been thrilled with any of them really for various reasons. Some latex inside is fine for a few minutes but seems to give me a reaction when left in for long periods of time (like cap or diaphram) and then the pill leaves me with less than no libido, which is a challenge for me as I am getting into mid-30's anyway. I'm allergic to a lot of spermicides, so it is hard to say! Looks like condoms. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">There are some condoms now made of nitrile, which is less stinky. I haven't tried them so I can't say if they're any good or not! Of course there's always lambskin condoms too, but if you're a vegetarian the thought of sheep intestine on/in your equipment kind of leaves you where it found you! Plus they're expensive.</div>
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Nitrile is fabulous! I <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/heartbeat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="heartbeat"> non-latex condoms SOOOO much! Of course, that's probably related to the fact that I'm allergic to latex, spermicide and synthetic progestrone, so non-latex condoms are sort of the end of the road for me as far as having any kind of a non-procreative sex life. But they have other good points too... they're thinner than latex, and more conductive of heat, so they feel more natural. They're also slicker and less irritating even for people who aren't latex-sensitive, and don't seem to drink up or dry out lubrication (either natural or supplementary). They're not as stretchy, so men who are 'specially sized' can be hard to fit. They're somewhat more expensive, but we order them on-line from drugstore.com where they're often on sale, and much less expensive than your local drug store.<br><br>
That's my little pean to non-latex condoms, I'll shut up now. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 
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