Anyone have any experience with this? My LC thinks my little guy has this and that is why we have had such a hard time. I am going to see a pedi who specializes in this, but anyone have it clipped and had success after?
we had a frenectomy done last week, when our baby was a week old. i was freaking out about subjecting her to getting her tongue clipped, but she didn't even cry or look particularly startled by the clip. it improved her latch almost immediately. we are still having trouble with nipple confusion (because she was losing so much weight from her inability to latch, we are having to pump and bottle-feed her the breast milk until we can get her back to birth weight). but i have noticed a difference in the latch itself, and she is definitely taking in milk better than she was before. la leche league has some great info on their website about this topic...
My dd had tongue tie (don't know exactly what posterior means in regards to tongue tie).<br>
I had to search far and wide for a doctor who would 1. admit that tongue tie affects bfing, and 2. would fix it without putting her under GA.<br>
Here is the website to the doc that was my salvation:<br><a href="http://twofloridadocs.com" target="_blank">http://twofloridadocs.com</a><br>
She has an article on tongue tie on her website. I went into her office, she took out a scissors and went snip snip, so much better! (I was in a lot of pain). This is when DD was 1 month old. It took about another month for me to heal and for her latch to completely correct itself. I also took domperidone to fix my supply issues caused by the tongue tie.<br>
This can run in families, and we have since moved away, but if my next child has it I will travel six hours to go see her again!
After much research I have found that my ds has a lip-tie. Much less common than a tongue tie so many docs overlook it. I have talked to a retired dentist (Brian Palmer) referred to by a LLLL and if you google his name you can go to his website which has a lot of info about tongue ties and lip ties. He informed that my ds's lip tie is more than likely the main reason/cause I cannot maintain a full supply for ds. He advised me to wait to have it clipped as ds is now 9 months and would not sit still for a clip, so he would have to be put out, and dr. palmer said that anethesia is not worth the risk at this time since I will probably start weaning when ds is a year. Yesterday my ds's pedi looked at it, and she told me that we should wait until ds is getting his permanent teeth to clip it. I advise you to get it fixed before you lo gets too old or the docs will not be willing to do it. HTH.
We had great success with clipping my son's frenulum (both under the tongue and inside his top lip). He was about 4 weeks at the time and prior to the clip I was extenively supplementing and one week following didn't have to supplement at all. Hope you have great success as well!
Just to give the other side of this, and not to be depressing - my son had a posterior tongue tie as well as a upper lip tie. I ended up driving 4 hours to take him to someone who could clip them. This was done when he was 4 weeks old, he is now 9 weeks old and is still unable to nurse - although the change to his tongue control has been amazing. I do feel confident that we have prevented speech impediments though since the change to his tongue movements are very dramatic.<br><br>
Meanwhile i continue to pump and work with an ICBLC to get him on the breast...
Dd1 had posterior tongue tie and my ped said very strongly and confidently she didn't. My LC found me a pediatric surgeon who specializes in this and she clipped it. After a few weeks nursing was so much better--less painful and we didn't have 12-hour nursing marathons any more (she was having to nurse on and on because she had trouble getting milk out).<br><br>
Most peds are ignorant about tongue-tie, let alone posterior tongue-tie, which doesn't make the tip of the tongue heart-shaped. Partly this is due to the prevalence of bottle-feeding.<br><br>
Best of luck to you!
All three of our kids were born tongue-tied. With our first no one noticed and we had no clue. Nursing was impossible (between that and several other factors- not having read up and not having a strong support system) , I tried to pump and feed her and still had issues. the ped had her frenulum clipped and though we were beyond nursing, she was able to bottle feed ok after (before, we were using syringes to feed her <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> ) It was scary and the fact that they didn't catch it at the hospital peeved me off.<br><br>
The next two, that was the first thing we had checked. Neither had nursing issues, but they clipped them when they were toddlers, hoping to avoid speech issues.
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<div style="font-style:italic;">All three of our kids were born tongue-tied. With our first no one noticed and we had no clue. Nursing was impossible (between that and several other factors- not having read up and not having a strong support system) , I tried to pump and feed her and still had issues. the ped had her frenulum clipped and though we were beyond nursing, she was able to bottle feed ok after (before, we were using syringes to feed her <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> ) It was scary and the fact that they didn't catch it at the hospital peeved me off.<br><br>
The next two, that was the first thing we had checked. Neither had nursing issues, but they clipped them when they were toddlers, hoping to avoid speech issues.</div>
dito---same thing with my first--if i had only known then-nursed other 2 children with out a hitch---pedi said first born tongue tie would "correct its self" ---to bad it didn't happen soon enough to bf him<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
How do I know if my baby has this? He won't let me look under his tongue! He's never latched correctly from birth, even at the LC's, tried for 8 weeks. PAIN PAIN PAIN! My supply completely dried up. But it even seems like he has some problems with bottles because every 30-1 minute he has to pull off the bottle, breathes fast, and then latches back on. He does have some reflux but I do think there's something else going on. I HATE!!!! that I didn't know about PTT before now though!
You could have a doctor or IBCLC look at it for you. I guess with posterior tongue tie they don't have the heart shape tongue (My dd did when she cried, that combined with low milk supply, damaged nipples, clicking while nursing (i.e. bad latch), all led us to believe that is what we had).
Just to update from my original post. We had the clipping done, and although he can move his tongue much better now, it has not solved our problems. My nipples have healed and baby conts to nurse, however he still does not open wide and take a mouthful of breast, instead just nurses barely around the nipple. I sometimes get a soreness like I will be getting plugged up, so I pump and it helps a bit. We are considering Physical therapy. Thanks everyone.
my midwife noticed the tongue tie in my dd immediately after the birth...she could not extend her tongue out beyond her bottom lip. mw clipped her tongue the next day. our problem was that dd was 3 weeks early, and had to learn a new way to nurse (without the tongue tie) other than the way she knew in the womb. she became exceedingly frustrated at the breast, and i had to pump and feed. then after about 6 pumpings, i could not let down any more milk. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> i syringe-fed her formula for the night on the midwife's advice, as dd had lost 11% of her birth weight. now she is latching on like a champ, but will stay on for almost an hour at a time or nurse 50 min. total out of 1 hour. is this because she has to catch up to get back to her birth weight? i also notice that she seems satisfied after eating, because she falls asleep instead of crying. the other thing that worries me, but mw says it'll come, is that she has only had 2 transitional bowel movements in the last 3 days, and is 1 week old today. she has several wet diapers a day, though.
My ds2 was tongue tied, the midwife clipped it when he was 4 days old. I just discovered he's lip tied too he mostly nurses well but he still has issues with my let down at 6mths. I guess really it's too late to do anything about the lip tie. I don't appear to have a supply issue, I guess I would know if I did right?