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Yay!! I'm preggo!! My IPs are finally expecting the baby they have wanted and dreamed of for years!! I couldn't be more excited!!<br><br>
And I have a question for ya'll. We are planning a UC and I want to UP as much as possible as well. The problem w/ that is I'm active duty military so I have to have at least one inital appointment to receive the necessary paperwork for my unit. After that, I'm hoping that I can just "forget" to schedule most of my appointments. So now the question, what's all the bloodwork they "routinely" do at your inital appointment? I already plan to refuse it {and the vag exam} but I would like to know what it is ahead of time so I can have an educated response when/if they try to get me to get it done. TIA!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">...The problem w/ that is I'm active duty military so I have to have at least one inital appointment to receive the necessary paperwork for my unit. After that, I'm hoping that I can just "forget" to schedule most of my appointments....</div>
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Congratulations!<br><br>
Others can answer about the blood work. My concern is some might construe "forgetting" to schedule prenatals as abuse/neglect of government property. You consider mentioning at your first appointment you're planning a homebirth (or not share that part depending on how you think they'll take it) and will seek private pregnancy care. You don't have to say just HOW private. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">My concern is some might construe "forgetting" to schedule prenatals as abuse/neglect of government property. You consider mentioning at your first appointment you're planning a homebirth (or not share that part depending on how you think they'll take it) and will seek private pregnancy care. You don't have to say just HOW private. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
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Yeah, that's what I did w/ my last pg (m/c.) I never made it to the first appointment, just the orientation. They said they wanted me to see one of the hospital CMNs after I told them I was planning a homebirth and seeking private (paid-out-of-pocket) care. They're biggest concern was how to "track" me in the system.<br><br>
Hmm, maybe I won't "forget" to schedule them...I'll just call at the last minute and say I have to reschedule, lol! I'm hoping after I get that inital appointment I'll be allowed to not see them again until 36 weeks so I can get my "Going out of Town" permission slip. After 36 weeks if you go outside of your immediate coverage area and end up delivering at a civilian hospital, Tricare won't cover it unless you have a note from your care provider saying they "allowed" you to travel <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: Which really wouldn't be a big deal, but we are planning the birth at my IPs house and they live 2 hours away. And the <i>only</i> reason I'd end up in the hospital is if there was some major emergency which I'm sure equals huge bill.<br><br>
And you have no idea how exciting it is to be considered "government property" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rolleyes">! That's really how it is too!
 

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Congrats!!!!<br><br>
I agree with the others who say you should tell them you are planning a homebirth with private care. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"> This will help keep them off your back. You can also fill in some prenatal records of things you do and tell them they are your copy from your "care provider". <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> No one really has to know now do they?<br><br>
As for blood work, it is usually just basic blood count stuff. Do refuse the HIV test because it can throw a false positive just because you are pg. It is a test that is contraindicated in pregnancy!!!!!! If they HAVE to do anything, go with the iron count and be done. I do think they test for rubella and other stds as well, but can't remember everything off the top of my head. Just ask. They should be able to tell you and then you can refuse what you don't want done right then and there.<br><br>
Congrats again!<br>
~A
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">As for blood work, it is usually just basic blood count stuff. Do refuse the HIV test because it can throw a false positive just because you are pg. It is a test that is contraindicated in pregnancy!!!!!! If they HAVE to do anything, go with the iron count and be done. I do think they test for rubella and other stds as well, but can't remember everything off the top of my head. Just ask. They should be able to tell you and then you can refuse what you don't want done right then and there.<br><br>
Congrats again!<br>
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Ha, that's kind of funny because the one blood test I HAVE to have is the HIV because I'm active duty. I refused all of them last time (told the nurse I wanted to wait until my "midwife" ordered them) but I still had to have the HIV. Despite the fact that I had had one in Jun 04, Jan 05, Aug 05, and Sept 06 (before/after training and deployment)...it was only early Dec 06 when I was pg last time! I can almost 100% guarantee that they'll want another one next month when I go for the orientation. Sound like a waste of government money to anyone else?<br><br>
Thanks for the ones you listed...I'm not worried about iron right now-never been anemic and we eat a LOT of red meat, rubella-<i>should</i> be good considering I was vaccinated, STDs-nope, not worried about that one either...<br><br>
Ok, 'nother question~what do they test your urine for during the inital labs? Is it just another pregnancy test or are they checking for anything else? If it's another pg test that's a waste too. Before you can even schedule your inital orientation w/ OB you have to go to your Primary Care Provider and the lab to have a positive urine HCG.<br><br>
I'm positive that I didn't do any of these things when I was pregnant with DD. I only remember my MW drawing blood once and that was for the GD check. And it wasn't even the whole glucose thing-she just told me not to eat for like 12 hours before the test, and she was at my house at 8 am to do the draw.<br><br>
Thanks for the replies so far!! It has been helpful!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Ha, that's kind of funny because the one blood test I HAVE to have is the HIV because I'm active duty.</div>
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Not only is pregnancy known to cause false positives so does the flu shot they're now recommending to women who will be pregnant during flu season. And yup, it has mercury in it too. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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I *assume* they use a urine dipstick that tests for sugar for pancreas issues, white blood cells for infections, protein (albumin) for pre-preeclampsia as well as pending bladder infections, and I think one other thing. I think it might be red blood cells but I'm not sure. It's been eight years since I've taken that urine test.<br><br>
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The urine tests usually checks for:<br>
glucose, protein, pH, blood, ketone, bilirubin, nitrite, urobilinogen, gravity, and leukocytes<br><br>
It is supposed to give a whole picture of how the body is working, but I have actually had a doctor tell me that they aren't accurate (especially the glucose test) so I wonder why they waste time and our money doing them. Unless there is a specific reason or need why? Oh I forgot, they have to cover their butts.<br><br>
I figured you had all the vaxes done and up to date being military. Same with rubella. I just really hate the idea that they force that stupid HIV test. That is unreal!<br><br>
~A
 
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