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Does anyone have a child who is not fully vaccinated enrolled in a private preschool program? Did they accept a state exemption? I just signed my son up for a private preschool program at a local church for the fall and they didn't say anything about immunizations to me, but then i read at the bottom of a sheet they gave me that in July they will be asking all parents to turn in a copy of their child's shot records....so now I'm nervous. I just requested an exemption from out state, but private programs aren't required to accept those, right?<br>
My son is partially vaccinated...up until he was 2 and then we decided we're not doing any more, so he may very well be up to date on what they require, but then again he may be missing a few. We never got him Prevnar, I know that. I don't know whether to try to present his shot record as it is or try to ask them to accept our exemption? I kind of don't want to raise any red flags with the exemption if I don't have to. I need opinions please!!!
 

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I would just submit a religious exemption letter in lieu of vaccination records and not say a word about it. Make sure your letter includes the law so they know you are complying with it.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Your religious beliefs can change, so you can exempt a previously vaxed child. You could also pretend your child is not vaxed to make life easier.<br><br><br>
Some states, like NY and NJ allow the state to question the <b>sincerity</b> of your beliefs; the following is VERY important.<br><br><br><br>
-For a religious exemption you need to be "against <b>the practice of vaccination</b>". If you give your reasons to be against vaccinations as:<br><br>
"I'm against vaccination because they use aborted fetal cells" - This is a philosophical reason.<br><br>
"I'm against pre-marital sex and some vaxes are for sexually transmitted diseases." This is a philosophical reason.<br><br>
Again, you have to be against the <b>the practice of vaccination.</b> For a more through explanation of why this is read the Wexler decision below.<br><br>
-Also, you DO NOT have to be a member of a religion doctrinally opposed to vaccination. You can be Wiccan, Lutheran, Catholic, Jewish, church of the flip flops, and still claim a religious exemption do to your personal religious beliefs against the practice of vaccination. Dr. Mercola does a good job of explaining this in my Religious Exemptions link below (you may have to register to read it).<br><br>
-One more thing, you do not want to include specific biblical verses as your interpretation could be challenged. You need to describe your personal religious beliefs.<br>
-<b>Require that all questions regarding your exemption be in writing and give answers in writing. Do not give verbal responses.<br></b><br><br><br><br><br>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br><b><a href="http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/10/vaccine_exemption.htm" target="_blank">Religious Exemptions</a></b><br><br><a href="http://www.goodlight.net/nyvic/law/wexler/default.htm" target="_blank">The Wexler Decision</a><br><br><b>To find out what exemptions are offered by your state (for school and such) check here:<br><a href="http://www.nvic.org/state-site/state-exemptions.htm" target="_blank">http://www.nvic.org/state-site/state-exemptions.htm</a></b><br><a href="http://www.novaccine.com/law-exemptions/" target="_blank">http://www.novaccine.com/law-exemptions/</a><br><br><br>
All states <b>except West Virginia and Mississippi</b> offer religious and/or philosophical exemptions, and the supreme court ruled that you do not have to belong to a non-vaxing religion or have clergy sign your religious exemption. Exemptions can be submitted in lieu of vaccination records (I would do it this way).<br><br>
The US Supreme Court ruling that determined that you do not have to belong to a particular religion to use a religious exemption is:<br><span style="font-family:Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:small;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>Sherr v. Northport-East Northport Union Free Sch. Dist., 672 F. Supp. 81, 89-90 (E.D. N.Y. 1987)<br><a href="http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/consent.htm" target="_blank">http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/consent.htm</a><br><br><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/policies/downloads/vacc_mandates_chptr13.htm" target="_blank">http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/...es_chptr13.htm</a></b></span></span></span></span></span><br><br>
Sample Religious Exemption Letter<br><br><span style="font-size:xx-small;">Quote:<br>
To whom it may concern;<br><br><br><br>
(We / I) {First and Last name(s)}, as the {(parent (s) / guardian(s)} of ______________________(name of newborn child) are exercising (our/my) rights under the US Constitution, PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, ARTICLE 21. CONTROL OF ACUTE COMMUNICABLE DISEASES,TITLE VI. POLIOMYELITIS AND OTHER DISEASES, NY CLS Pub Health § 2164 (2002), to receive Religious Exemption from Vaccination, ALL injections, prophylaxis, & testing due to our genuine and sincere religious beliefs which are contrary to the practices herein required.<br><br>
The US Supreme Court ruled in Sherr v. Northport-East Northport Union Free Sch. Dist., 672 F. Supp. 81, 89-90 (E.D. N.Y. 1987), that a religious belief is subject to protection even though no religious group espouses such beliefs or the fact that the religious group to which the individual professes to belong may not advocate or require such belief. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as amended Nov. 1, 1980; Part 1605.1-Guidelines on Discrimination Because of Religion.<br><br>
Sincerely,<br><br>
Your signature.<br>
Date<br></span></td>
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Thank you for that sample letter!
 

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We enrolled our son in a private preschool and gave them the exemption forms and they've never said anything about it! Good luck!
 

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My son is enrolled in a private preschool. I submitted the state exemption form (which, for our state, is conveniently located on the back of the immunization record form) with the religious exemption option checked and they were fine with it. The director of the school who glanced at it as I handed him my papers, just said if there was a outbreak, my son would have to stay home. Then he told me that has happened only once in 30 years. He was reassuring me! Loved it.
 

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In my state as long as you are complying with the law (i.e. turn in a vaccine record or exemption) they cannot deny admittance based on that. But, it varies from state to state. I have had no issues with turning in exemptions to our toddler co-op and the private preschool my ds will attend next year.
 

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My daughter is enrolled in a private christian preschool and we did the philo. exemption. They never questioned it one bit. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> She has been there for 2 yrs now.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">We enrolled our son in a private preschool and gave them the exemption forms and they've never said anything about it! Good luck!</div>
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Me too. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> I used the exemption form from my state's health department.
 

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Thanks for the input!<br><br>
So I emailed the director of the school yesterday and asked her if I could have the list of immunizations he needed to have and she wrote back and said "we don't really have a set list. Just make sure they're pretty up to date and initialed by your doctor." So I was thinking I would just give them his record since they aren't looking for anything specific, since he does have most of them done. But is there any reason why this could come back to bite us at a later date, because we are getting an exemption but now people will know we have vaccinated? Would they question our exemption?
 

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My son attends a private preschool at a church where I work. He has not recieved any vaccines. They told me all I needed was a notarized letter saying that it was against my religious beliefs to have him vaccinated. They didn't give me any trouble at all. Just tell them you changed your mind after he had already recieved some shots.
 

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I don't think you have to worry about it coming back at you. There is nothing anywhere saying you can't change your mind about vaccination. FWIW, my DD's school does ask for an updated record every 6 months or so (more like a physical), but they have never questioned our vaccine choices.
 

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Mebsy- do you have an update?<br><br>
I am going through the same thing. I know a lot of preschools around here accept religious exemptions. We are in virginia and do not have a philosophical exemption.<br><br>
The preschool we chose is presbyterian and does do some bible stories and Christian teaching. I am Christian, but I still find vaccines to be against my religious beliefs. I'm nervous that they won't take my exemption and then my son won't get to go to preschool.<br><br>
If I wait until it gets closer to the fall, they will have less time to find someone to take his spot, and I think more likely to accept the exemption. However, I am a little worried that they will not accept it saying Presbyterians do not have problems with vaccinations, and all the preschools around here will be full.<br><br>
For now I'm just going to cross my fingers, and I guess I will try to find a new preschool if it doesn't work out.<br><br>
I would love to hear what others have to say about this. I really don't see a Jehova's Witness or Christian Scientist going to this preschool for example. I could be wrong though. I really wasn't impressed with the other preschools that were not at a church, but maybe something else will come up.
 

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Just don't send any immunization records and just give them a religious exemption instead (or philosophical exemption if they have them in your state).<br>
My boys attend a private preschool and it has never been a problem. And I just signed my oldest up for kindergarten and they didn't say much either.
 
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