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I just received my kirkman bifido complex that i ordered for my 15 month old. The main reason that i just ordered these is because in the past several weeks, he has started pooping 10 + times a day. I have a strong suspicion there is something out of wack in his stomach. As i am reading more about the probiotics (pamphlet that came with my order) , i am seeing that it increases stomach acidity. (acetic and lactic acids are produced)<br>
now, he has SEVERE reflux, and has been on 30 mg of prevacid since 3 months old. (prevacid shuts off acid pumps in the stomach) without it, we were about to put him on tube feeding because his esophogus was so damaged from acid that he would scream during feedings. he was failure to thrive and unable to eat normally until we started the prevacid. then he became a HAPPY baby!<br>
i had no idea probiotics affected stomach acidity, i thought they would benefit him (he also has a lot of food allergies). now i have no idea what to do.<br>
anyone, help? i cant take this crazy pooping, but i cant take a chance with flaring up his reflux.
 

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how much probiotics are you using? you don't have to give your ds a lot-maybe try starting with a minimal amount 1x per day. I don't give ds much-no more than a 1/4 tsp per day. Or maybe instead of a probiotic, try a smidge of powdered acidophilous?<br><br>
Do you think your ds might have a food allergy?
 

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acidophilis is probiotics. however, babies do not benefit from the acidophilis strain, that is why i did not order that one. babies need the bifidobacteria strain.<br>
yes, my ds is allergic to dairy, soy, wheat, gluten.<br>
i am just so confused about all of this reading that i have done in regards to probiotics being beneficial for people with acid reflux...it just doesnt make sense if probiotics increase acid production. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:
 

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this is what i am referring to, from the kirkman labs website:<br><br>
BIFIDOBACTERIUM BIFIDUM/LACTIS (BB-12)<br><br>
Bifidobacterium bifidum (recently identified as B. lactis) is the most prominent microorganism strain setting up residence and implanting itself in the lining of the large intestine. B. bifidum is known for producing acetic and lactic acids, which lowers the pH. (<b>increases the acidity) of the intestine</b>
 

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I feel your pain. My ds had <i>bad</i> reflux and was on prevacid until a couple months ago. He also had numerous ear infections (likely due to the reflux), so he was on a lot of antibiotics in his first six months. The antibiotics caused yeast overgrowth in his tummy and so I also turned to probiotics. I did a lot of research before starting. This is what I learned...<br><br>
I used a combination of acidophilus and bifidobacterium with him and had good results. Here is why: acidophilus kills yeast. It does this by reacting with it to create a mild acid. This acid is in the lower intestinal tract and should not impact his reflux. But the acidity will kill the yeast. The bifidobacterium may also create some slight acidity, but it doesn't kill the yeast the way acidophilus does. Instead, it helps to bring the flora in your babies GI tract back to proper balance. Bifidobacterium is necessary only if your baby is still breastfeeding. It is one of the bacteria that assist him with digesting breast milk. (Once weaned, this flora disappears from the GI track.)<br><br>
The bottom line is I think you should be safe using probiotics with your baby. It should not upset his reflux. Of course you should closely monitor him just to be on the safe side, but I think you should be fine. You can also take probiotics as well. You may have a slight overgrowth too and could also benefit. I've been dealing with repeated yeast infections in my milk ducts and have to take probiotics daily. Good luck! I hope things improve for you both!
 

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<a href="http://www.gardenoflife.com/detail_primal_defensekids.shtml" target="_blank">This is what I give ds</a>. He loves it. I also give him the Pro2Go which is berry flavored-I actually add it to oatmeal. I understand that acidophilous is a probiotic, but it is different than other probiotics-simply suggested it as an alternative.<br><br>
DS was born with a severe reflux problem as well, and I used acidophilous to help his gut rebalance (he was also in NICU for 2 weeks). I'm don't give him probiotics all the time, but I do give it to him when he's not feeling well and especially after any doses of medicines (after his heart surgery, after his NICU stay, etc).<br><br>
If you look on the Garden of Life website, they do have an product called <a href="http://www.gardenoflife.com/detail_acid_defense.shtml" target="_blank">Acid Defense</a> for people with acid issues-it might be worth looking into.
 

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thanks guys!<br><br>
aezmama, i was going to give my ds the primal defense, but i found out it has milk in it (as well as fish).<br><br>
slsurface-its not entirely true that that strain disapears from the gut when they stop breastfeeding. people always have this strain in their guts, however it decreases as you get older. i know this because the bifido probiotics i ordered are specifically for adults (however there is an infant dosing recommendation). This is the info that is on the site about the bifido:<br><br>
"BIFIDOBACTERIUM INFANTIS<br><br>
The B. infantis strain of friendly flora has been referred to as the "infant" or "baby" bacteria because it is the primary resident of the intestinal tract of infants following their birth. B. infantis is known to inhabit the intestines of <b>both infants as well as adults although it is found in smaller quantities during the aging process. It is considered a beneficial probiotic strain that can safely and effectively be supplemented with infants, children and adults"</b><br><br>
anyway, thanks ladies, im hoping the acid increase wont mess with his reflux. i am going to try them out!
 
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