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I get really anxious about this with our puppy sometimes, just looking for some reassurance and info. Most of the time hers is medium brown or very dark brown-almost black. Usually about the right consistancy (sorry tmi), sometimes seems a bit too hard.<br><br>
The thing is im wondering what stuff changes a dogs poo?<br><br>
2 nights ago she poo'd before going to bed, it was the worst smell EVER. It was like all mucousy and had long stringy bits in some places and very dark, then there were a couple drops of dark liquid next to it. I think the long stringy bits were grass from the garden, but is there anything else they could have been? How do you tell if they are worms...they werent moving and Ive seen adult round worms come out in her poo and hanging out her butt before when she was about 11 weeks old and those *were* moving a bit.<br><br>
I guess my other question is what can make it go from normal to disgustingly strong smelling, very dark, and have mucous all in with it?<br><br>
Shes had the odd small handful of my food here and there. She had some of the dish of pasta I made last week with tuna, olive oil, mayonnaise, and sweetcorn on it. (yes the sweetcorn came out in her poo as it does with humans, no surprise there) She gets some of that meal about 3 times a week at the moment. Ds has rice krispies cereal so I give her some of that now and again, and last night she had a big spoonful of green party jelly which she only ate a bit of. Cant think of anything else Ive given her...oh yeah some apple and banana a few times.<br><br>
(Shes 6 months old) How often should she be going to poo in 24hrs? Is it different for a puppy and adult dog? She eats at mid day and then in the evening, never eats breakfast but I put it there for her anyway just incase she wants it. She poo's about 3 times a day.
 

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If you don't want her poop to go crazy, stop feeding her human food, especially worthless stuff like jello. If she's on a kibble diet she can have a SMALL amount of raw meat as you are cutting it up to cook, but otherwise none of that stuff is any good for her and will quite possibly lead to all sorts of stomach upsets.
 

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Not even plain pasta before I add anything to it? I thought that was used when you make your own dog food, instead of rice sometimes. Tuna is fish how is that bad for her when dogs are supposed to eat meaty things, and sweetcorn is a vegetable...the only thing I would have guessed to be a bit bad in that meal was the mayonnaise. Jello is mainly water.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:
 

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Jello is water, a HUGE amount of sugar, artificial coloring and flavoring. Pasta can't be taken advantage of by dogs--they don't digest grains effectively. When you use it in a home-cooked diet, you're using it to stretch the meat and make the dog have a more satisfying meal, not because it's actually all that good for the dog. Tuna is cooked meat and is very oily, and can be difficult for dogs to digest (and therefore cause diarrhea, etc.) when they're not used to it. Corn (as you found out) is not digested at ALL. Dogs have no ability to break down the cellulose in the corn kernel. Rice krispies in milk is one more grain (which is not utilized) and milk, which most dogs can't handle.<br><br>
You're also feeding a TINY dog. A single spoonful of jello can overwhelm her whole system. A small spoon of rice krispies doubles her grain intake for the day, meaning that the balance of her kibble is totally thrown off. The amount of mercury in two forkfulls of tuna would be a lot for her. Unless you know what you're doing (in terms of feeding a home-cooked BALANCED diet or a raw diet, again BALANCED), it's a heck of a lot safer to stick to kibble only.
 

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Hijacking for a moment to ask about carrots--Mabel loves carrots-thinks they are a great treat--I'll give her the ends sometimes--are carrots bad as well?<br>
Thats really the only thing she gets--on purpose at least-other than her kibble.
 

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Grains have little to no nutritional value for dogs. GROUND veggies have some place in a canine diet, but whole veggies and particularly corn are quite difficult for dogs to digest.<br><br>
Canned tuna often has a very high sodium content which is not good for dogs along with being it being too oily.<br><br>
Jello is useless as a food and could only lead to tummy upset.
 

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Carrots are pretty harmless for the big dogs, though they aren't digested--the dog just thinks they taste kind of good and they're crunchy. They come through whole. Pulped carrots are not great for dogs prone to yeast or itchy skin, because they're too sugary. I wouldn't feed a whole baby carrot to a toy dog; that's about the size of his or her stomach and would "ruin her supper."
 

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Corn is technically a grain and not a vegetable-at least that is what I was told. So small chuncks of carrot 1-2 times a week are not good?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Hijacking for a moment to ask about carrots--Mabel loves carrots-thinks they are a great treat--I'll give her the ends sometimes--are carrots bad as well?<br>
Thats really the only thing she gets--on purpose at least-other than her kibble.</div>
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I think carrots are fine, but they can't really digest them unless they're ground up. I will give Miles some baby carrots in his Kong sometimes or even a big carrot to chew on, but I ALWAYS see it come out the other end <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/duck.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Duck">:
 

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I'll back off on the carrots then, though Mabel has not had any in a couple of weeks...
 

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Once or twice a week is absolutely fine, especially for a medium or large dog (I forget how big Mabel is). I wouldn't do it fifteen times a day, but they're honestly just going to come through her anyway.
 

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Mabel was 33 lbs as of yesterday--I'll just do it on occasion--she really does think they're great!
 

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Aw okay I feel bad Ive been feeding her bad stuff, tonight ds dropped a fully small pot of yoghurt on the floor and I let her eat it. No more from now on. Strange about corn not being digested by dogs, because it comes out in human poo too doesnt it? So why do we eat it if we cant digest it either I wonder. I swear she looks at me when I put the kibble down like 'not this boring food AGAIN?!?'.
 

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In another thread, I believe the OP stated that she was feeding Pedigree puppy... THis isnt a great food, or even a good food. Check out the sticky at the top of this forum, and take a look at the ingredients label on your bag of kibble. You dont want to see corn in any form (not digestable!), and you want at least the first ingredient to be a named meat, maybe a (named) meat meal, preferably the first few ingredients. This does mean a more expensive bag of food, but since more of the food is actually used by the dog, it also means you will be feeding less (and have smaller, firmer, less smelly poops). And, since you have such a small dog, any price difference is going to be tiny.<br><br>
Definatly stop feeding the people foods; with such a tiny dog what you think is a little can really do alot of damage. NEVER feed your dog raisins or grapes, btw. Toxic. Or chocolate.<br><br>
I think that people DO digest some aspect of the corn (starches and sugars?) but not the outside, which is mostly cellulose. We do "use" it as a fibrous food, to help clean out our intestinal tract though.
 

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Ah ok. I knew about raisins grapes and chocolate <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
PP is right I feed her 'Pedigree Puppy Complete' kibble. I have the bag here with me. Ingredients - Cereals (min. 4% rice in the rice kibble), Meat and animal derivatives (min. 4% chicken in the chicken kibble), Oils and fats, Derivatives of vegetable origin, Vegetable protein extracts, Minerals.<br><br>
And I give her 1 of these teeth sticks daily, they are the length of your hand so quite big but narrow. Ingredients -Cereals, Vegetable Protein Extracts, Minerlas, Meat and Animal Derivatives,Oils and Fats, Derivatives of Vegetable Origin,Coloured and Preserved with EC Additives. -Says they are 'easily digestible, vitamin enriched, benefits the immune system, for strong teeth and healthy bones.'<br><br>
I did try her on IAMS kibble because its more expensive so I thought it must be more healthy, but she had dairhea for about the whole 3 weeks she was on it. Shes okay on Pedigree most of the time, I think maybe it was the human food I was giving her that upset her stomach. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"> She does vomit quite a bit though too. Is that because she eats grass in the garden? I was told its just the grass cleaning out her stomach. Usually its like a frothy white vomit, on the odd occasion it has been chewed up kibble come back up, so I think she eats too much of it all at once. I tend to see shes eaten it all from her bowl and immediately add more kibble thinking shes still hungry. Sometimes she picks the bowl up empty and brings it to me like she wants more.
 

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Pedigree AND Iams are pretty bad. She's so tiny, even an expensive kibble won't break the bank. Look for Solid Gold Just a Wee Bit, or for kibbles listed as human-grade super-premium. Canidae, Nature's Variety Prairie, Back to Basics, Wellness, etc. You typically WON'T find these at a grocery store or even at a PetCo-type place. Look for specialty pet stores (privately owned, and of course they shouldn't sell puppies) or at high-end horse feed stores.<br><br>
Whatever treat that is is NOT "easily digestible" or healthy. Just look at the ingredients! My favorite treats are made by Bravo and are just freeze-dried meats (genuinely healthy and easy to digest) or something that's mostly meat. P<a href="http://www.sitstay.com/cgi-bin/sdisp.cgi/EDPTA.lg.jpg:EDPTB.lg.jpg:EDPTD.lg.jpg:EDPTC.lg.jpg" target="_blank">lato dog treats</a> are wonderful.
 

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Yup. Youll see a big difference when you start feeding her a better food. Dont fall for a brand just b/c its pricey or sold at the vets, really study at the nutrition label. The fact that your labels said "meats" and "cereals" instead of naming the specific sources is a big give-away. Check out the websites for the brands TheKimballs mentioned, see the difference yourself. And please dont overfeed her, being overweight is not good for any animal, but for teeny ones it can really be harmful for their joints and skeletal system.<br>
The pet co I visit carries Solid Gold, but I know that not all do. Its worth checking out. The 4 lb bag of the "just a wee bit" variety is about $9. Not bad.
 
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