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I need to get my baby's weight off. I think I focused to much on worrying about mucousy diapers and eczema and some spit-up/vomit. Now, I want to push past that and help my baby gain weight. At this age, they need a lot of food/nutrition & he's not getting it with just breast milk. I need nutrient dense foods that I can give him to help him gain weight and also because his brain is developing.<br><br>
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anyone out there try giving their baby's EGG YOLKS?<br><br>
Or is that a major NO NO? Or, is it just a NO NO because everyone is afraid of mucousy diapers and some eczema? I'm not worried about eczema and mucousy diapers anymore. The important thing for me is to get my 10 month olds weight up because "special diets" (where a baby is NOT a celiac or FPIES) does not work for US. It might work for others, but it's not working for me because my baby is not gaining weight on my turkey/rice/olive oil (lots & lots), lamb, etc streamlined diet. I need to give him solids that are nutrient dense. Any thoughs on egg yolks for a 10 month old?<br><br>
Also, doctors say that if you just ebf, they will have problems w/swallowing solids later on, etc. If you are on the MILD end of food intolerances where you can see the baby is getting better every day, is EGG YOLK an option? I can understand if there's some other thing going on, but for mild MFPIs, I think I'm compromising his overall health (weight gain) by worrying about eczema and mucous in the diapers. NO? Yes?<br><br>
Who out there has given a baby under 1 month A HARD BOILED EGG YOLK?<br><br>
thanks in advance!
 

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What is his current weight? Is he gaining length and meeting milestones? Weight gain slows significantly after about 6 months of age.<br><br>
I think eczema and mucous in the diapers is a much bigger issue and more compromising to a child's health than low weight gain. If he develops asthma from food allergies, that's for life.<br><br>
Breastmilk is the best food for brain development.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">What is his current weight? Is he gaining length and meeting milestones? Weight gain slows significantly after about 6 months of age.<br><br>
I think eczema and mucous in the diapers is a much bigger issue and more compromising to a child's health than low weight gain. If he develops asthma from food allergies, that's for life.<br><br>
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thank you for replying, but i had some mild asthma that I out-grew. I need to get him to gain weight. he was born in the 50th %-ile and is now 5-th %-ile and not gaining weight as he should be - and, that's probably due to my breast feeding him exclusively. I don't think i'm giving him enough nutrient dense breast milk. Is he hitting mile-stones in terms of development? Well, yes - very bright/happy/energetic. Tooooo energetic - it's exhausting monitoring this energizer bunny who is exploring the world. He needs a crash helmet and a rubber room!<br><br>
That said, both my husband and I were much more ahead of him at his age - we are both high IQ and my husband was walking by 9 months (ditto for me too). I can tell that if my son had remained in the 50th %-ile weight-wise, he would be way past many other developmental (physical/mental) milestones. I can tell/see that. So, I feel like he's getting behind and worrying about setting him back physically/mentally over worrying about eczema/asthma (i'm beginning to think if they are going to get asthma, they are just going to get it anyway - I can do everything to 'prevent' it, but now the priority is for him to gain weight. he shouldn't be dropping from 50th to 5th percentile. That's not good for a developing baby. I need HELP to get this baby's weight up. He's not losing, but he's just not gaining!!!!! Today, I eat a really fatty lamb w/lots of greasy drippings to soak my rice noodles in and hoping eating like that will help him gain weight because he's not into solids much at all. He hates the Neocate Nutra, won't even touch apple-sauce, spits out anything unusual and likes to experiment w/cheerios or rice cakes, etc. He was into bananna for awhile, but now he dislikes that too. So, i'm thinking that the dry texture of a boiled egg yolk might entice him.<br><br>
Again, anyone out there give there under one year an egg yolk? is this really a bad thing to experiment with? Should I start eating it myself to see if there's a reaction first? Don't know. I guess I just want to know if anyone has tried egg yolk here?
 

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Out of interest, what %ile are you and DH on? I only ask because my friends kids wre both born on the 50th%ile but both parents are actually very lean/light indviduals and sure enough, around 12 months both her kids began to drop curves until they hit the 5th and there they stay, many (happy, healthy) years later. I'm not sure weight and IQ are that inherently linked unless a child is clinically malnourished. I certainly know plenty of very very lean people with high IQ's (i'm kind of chubby with a high IQ, but i was a very lean kid).<br><br>
Bear in mind that if he's very active hewill burn off his calories faster than a kid who just sits about (so him being lean doesn't mean he'snot eating enough). In fact i'd think listlessness and lack of energy would be a stronger indication for lack of calories than what you describe.<br><br>
As for the egg yolk, there are no allergies in my family so i can't advise, but if you know of no allergies in your family to egg yolk you could maybe eat it yourself and see how he goes. The general rule of thumb is supposed to be 12months + for egg introduction but i'm sur i gave it to DD before then (remember though, no allergies here!).
 

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There are other things that are nutrient dense that aren't on the top allergen list. Avocado and coconut milk/oil are high fat. Bone broth is full of nutrients. Etc.<br><br>
Personally, if there's mucous, eczema, vomiting, then I'd just consider the low weight gain another symptom, not something to focus on. And I don't know that walking early and IQ correlate either.<br><br>
For what it's worth, I gave my DD2 eggs before age 1 (she has no food intolerances). I gave DS eggs before age 1 as well. He can't have them anymore though because he's intolerant to them now (we're working on that one).
 

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I second the avacado, mash it up you can add things like fruit to the mash. Coconut milk is great as well. It is really high in fat. You could add more of these things to your diet as well to enrich your breast milk.<br><br>
Personally I wouldn't be worried about comparing you and your DH to your child in terms of milestones. Everybody is different and reaching milestones is not genetic. I walked by 9 months, DH walked at 15 months and our DS walked a week before 9 months. My sister walked at 13months. Our ped told us to ignore percentiles as long as our child was happy, healthy and growing. I think the same thing could be said about IQ's. It's relative to the testing scale, baselines etc just like percentiles. To me the most important thing is a happy, growing baby.<br><br>
FWIW, my DS really slowed down in weight gain at 6 months. He's almost 16 months now and has only gained about 6 lbs from 6 months, he's about 6 inches taller as well. I do have to say he started out kind of big and is now about average.
 

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I would totally trial it. Absolutely. Good luck. In fact, I wish I had, but I didn't figure out that it was the whites (not the yolks) that my daughter was reactive to until later on. Let us know how it turns out.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Out of interest, what %ile are you and DH on? I only ask because my friends kids wre both born on the 50th%ile but both parents are actually very lean/light indviduals and sure enough, around 12 months both her kids began to drop curves until they hit the 5th and there they stay, many (happy, healthy) years later. I'm not sure weight and IQ are that inherently linked unless a child is clinically malnourished. I certainly know plenty of very very lean people with high IQ's (i'm kind of chubby with a high IQ, but i was a very lean kid).<br><br>
Bear in mind that if he's very active hewill burn off his calories faster than a kid who just sits about (so him being lean doesn't mean he'snot eating enough). In fact i'd think listlessness and lack of energy would be a stronger indication for lack of calories than what you describe.<br><br>
As for the egg yolk, there are no allergies in my family so i can't advise, but if you know of no allergies in your family to egg yolk you could maybe eat it yourself and see how he goes. The general rule of thumb is supposed to be 12months + for egg introduction but i'm sur i gave it to DD before then (remember though, no allergies here!).</div>
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The doctor really scared me the last appt. He said the baby is going in the wrong direction. I was thinking he was just lean too because both my husband and I are skinny, and he was born 50-th %-ile, and I am definitely eating "lean" on this eliminate all dairy/egg/soy/etc diet of mine.<br><br>
Listlessness is not a problem. I can't keep up. Of course, like everyone here, he wakes up constantly during the night which the dr said was also bad. Duuuuhhhh. My husband and Dr feel the baby is waking up all night because he's HUNGRY not because of allergy problems. They also say it's because of poor sleep habits he developed. i.e. he's accustomed to the all-night cafe experience.<br><br>
Sheeesh. THIS IS HARD. the dr even asked if we tried to "stop breast feeding" him for a weekend and sort of "starve" him into getting him to eat solids. Sheeesh. How crazy is that? Of course, the husband himself is saying the best thing for the baby is if my production dried up. Now, go figure. Sheeesh.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I second the avacado, mash it up you can add things like fruit to the mash. Coconut milk is great as well. It is really high in fat. You could add more of these things to your diet as well to enrich your breast milk.<br><br>
Personally I wouldn't be worried about comparing you and your DH to your child in terms of milestones. Everybody is different and reaching milestones is not genetic. I walked by 9 months, DH walked at 15 months and our DS walked a week before 9 months. My sister walked at 13months. Our ped told us to ignore percentiles as long as our child was happy, healthy and growing. I think the same thing could be said about IQ's. It's relative to the testing scale, baselines etc just like percentiles. To me the most important thing is a happy, growing baby.<br><br>
FWIW, my DS really slowed down in weight gain at 6 months. He's almost 16 months now and has only gained about 6 lbs from 6 months, he's about 6 inches taller as well. I do have to say he started out kind of big and is now about average.</div>
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PROBLEM IS he's not gaining enough - just sort of stalled. he is thriving in my opinion though, but i'm a 1st time mom & i dont anything... he's heading down the wrong way per dr so i'm trying to do anything to get him to gain weight. i heard "feeding tube" is next if he doesnt get his weight up..... that could have been a joke from my sister in law who is a nurse. how is he going to gain weight if he's not sleeping thru the night????
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">PROBLEM IS he's not gaining enough - just sort of stalled. he is thriving in my opinion though, but i'm a 1st time mom & i dont anything... he's heading down the wrong way per dr so i'm trying to do anything to get him to gain weight. i heard "feeding tube" is next if he doesnt get his weight up..... that could have been a joke from my sister in law who is a nurse. how is he going to gain weight if he's not sleeping thru the night????</div>
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STTN has nothing to do with weight gain. In fact, if he's still feeding in the middle of the night, that's probably a good thing, because it's more calories. I would want to be nursing as much as possible.<br><br>
If your SIL is not your son's nurse, and your ped. hasn't said those words, I wouldn't be worrying about a feeding tube.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">There are other things that are nutrient dense that aren't on the top allergen list. Avocado and coconut milk/oil are high fat. Bone broth is full of nutrients. Etc.<br><br>
Personally, if there's mucous, eczema, vomiting, then I'd just consider the low weight gain another symptom, not something to focus on. And I don't know that walking early and IQ correlate either.<br><br>
For what it's worth, I gave my DD2 eggs before age 1 (she has no food intolerances). I gave DS eggs before age 1 as well. He can't have them anymore though because he's intolerant to them now (we're working on that one).</div>
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i'm going to try mashing up some avocado - just dont know how he'll react. seems anything "wet" is a turn-off to him....<br><br>
i love the idea of bone broth, but couldnt get him to take it - plus i keep worrying about bacteria in the storage/feeding process? it's also pretty fatty is that ok for a 10 m old?<br><br>
my son is also very gassy - constantly. is that normal for a 10m old? also wakes up constantly thruthe night - dr says this is due to poor sleep habits at this age & baby being hungry....<br><br>
did you give just the egg yolk or whole egg? by the way, i love your website & think your dh's musings are lovely.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I would totally trial it. Absolutely. Good luck. In fact, I wish I had, but I didn't figure out that it was the whites (not the yolks) that my daughter was reactive to until later on. Let us know how it turns out.</div>
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I am so afraid of giving him anything, but i'm now so worried about his weight gain. Sheeeesh. My husband gave him cheerios and that has wheat in it. The whole allergy thing is tossed aside - the plan is to give him anything and see what he'll tolerate. sheeeesh. That's not even a plan, but i guess his weight gain is the priority now. His eczema is coming back now - his skin was almost completely clear. Sigh.<br><br>
The good thing is his allergy ring is not bad at all so that gives me a thumbs up. His b.m.s are less frequent too which is a good thing, i believe. Tomorrow, i should see a huge b.m. to make up for his not having one today or yesterday. ha ha. Ugh. I do not look forward to that (baby struggles during diaper changes too - he's too busy wanting to explore & check everything else to wait for me to do anything w/him. Everything is a struggle! He'll even flip around while i'm trying to change him! I had NO IDEA BABIES COULD BE THIS MUCH WORK! I had NO IDEA THAT BABIES COULD BE SOOOOO CUTE!)
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Listlessness is not a problem. I can't keep up. Of course, like everyone here, he wakes up constantly during the night which the dr said was also bad. Duuuuhhhh. My husband and Dr feel the baby is waking up all night because he's HUNGRY not because of allergy problems. They also say it's because of poor sleep habits he developed. i.e. he's accustomed to the all-night cafe experience.</div>
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Waking up all night long is a problem, because that's when the growth hormone is released. After taking out allergens, when my kids would start sleeping, we'd have AMAZING growth spurts (weight & height). My kids were up 10-12 times a night when they were reacting. And I don't think it's poor sleep habits. As soon as the triggers were removed, they went from up 10-12 times a night to sleeping through the night. There was no tapering of it. It was like an on/off switch.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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That's ridiculous to starve him to eat solids. Breastmilk is high in fat, calories, and nutrients.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">i love the idea of bone broth, but couldnt get him to take it - plus i keep worrying about bacteria in the storage/feeding process? it's also pretty fatty is that ok for a 10 m old?</div>
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Not sure what your question is about the bacteria in bone broth... It has good fats in it. Will he take it in a bottle? You could give it to him warm in a cup or bottle. Cook rice in it. Put noodles or meatballs in it and give it to him as soup. Make gravy with it and have him dip veggies in it.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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No, it's not normal. Gas is another symptom.<br><br>
What are you off now dairy, egg, and soy? If there is no fluctuation in his symptoms (as in, it's all the time) I'd take out the other two common problem foods: gluten and corn. That still leaves a ton of food, but it's most likely going to cut out the problem OR make it easier for you to see if there are any other foods.<br><br>
Will he drink smoothies? You can get a lot of nutrition in those. We do coconut milk, banana, strawberries (and you can stick probiotics in there too). I've also been known to put spinach in there when the kids aren't looking. You can put avocado in there too.<br><br>
Has he been evaluated for a tongue tie? There was a lot of talk about it on this board a while ago and how it relates to food intolerances, etc.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Waking up all night long is a problem, because that's when the growth hormone is released. After taking out allergens, when my kids would start sleeping, we'd have AMAZING growth spurts (weight & height). My kids were up 10-12 times a night when they were reacting. And I don't think it's poor sleep habits. As soon as the triggers were removed, they went from up 10-12 times a night to sleeping through the night. There was no tapering of it. It was like an on/off switch.<br><br><br><br>
That's ridiculous to starve him to eat solids. Breastmilk is high in fat, calories, and nutrients.<br><br><br><br>
Not sure what your question is about the bacteria in bone broth... It has good fats in it. Will he take it in a bottle? You could give it to him warm in a cup or bottle. Cook rice in it. Put noodles or meatballs in it and give it to him as soup. Make gravy with it and have him dip veggies in it.<br><br><br><br>
No, it's not normal. Gas is another symptom.<br><br>
What are you off now dairy, egg, and soy? If there is no fluctuation in his symptoms (as in, it's all the time) I'd take out the other two common problem foods: gluten and corn. That still leaves a ton of food, but it's most likely going to cut out the problem OR make it easier for you to see if there are any other foods.<br><br>
Will he drink smoothies? You can get a lot of nutrition in those. We do coconut milk, banana, strawberries (and you can stick probiotics in there too). I've also been known to put spinach in there when the kids aren't looking. You can put avocado in there too.<br><br>
Has he been evaluated for a tongue tie? There was a lot of talk about it on this board a while ago and how it relates to food intolerances, etc.</div>
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NO TONGUE TIE.<br><br>
bacteria worries in the storage. i guess i could boil a small amt before each use.<br><br>
my l.o. is allergic/intolerant to coconut milk unfortunately. ditto w/tapioca <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
like the smoothie idea. will try that but havent been lucky w/fruits....<br><br>
i took gluten & corn out - but for corn, not to the extent of derivatives in vitamins. i'm pretty sure he's not allergic to corn as he has no reaction to the neocate nutra which has a lot of corn syrup & startch in it.<br><br>
i wish i could figure out the switch - congrats on figuring out how to get your kids to get a full nights sleep!
 

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I would look into WAPF (Weston A Price Foundation) for great ideas to feed your baby....- think the info there is exactly what you are searching for.<br><br>
I *think* it's westonaprice.org but a google search would bring it up.<br><br>
Look into the feeding babies and toddlers section. There is so much info I think you will both find the right foods and some great info on what age to start each type of food and why it benefits baby.<br><br>
They advocate yolks but I forget exactly what age.
 

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I started my kids with no known allergies (2 of the 4) on egg yolks at around 10 months old. We waited until 1 year old for egg whites.<br><br>
I'm a little more conservative about what I eliminate from their diets though... I start with a food diary, eliminate things that seem to be problem foods, and go from there. TEDs are a last resort for me.<br><br>
That said, I'm pretty mainstream with regards to treatment of eczema though, because that is what has worked the best for my family.
 

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I wanted to agree with a few things some moms have said on here. Sleep problems is always a reaction thing for us. My dd woke up at least 6 times a night (normally much more), even when I was eliminating a whole bunch of stuff. We finally got some help from a chiropractor and for the first time ever she started sleeping through the night and not having eczema. Then I got pregnant, my milk dried up and it all came back - eczema, no sleep and also the behavioural issues that she had before. She is also skinny (dh and I are as well), but gained a bit of weight after she got better. Now she is skinnier again. Oh and she definitely does not have a tongue tie, but she does have a sacral dimple.<br>
It has been said on these boards before and I can now totally confirm it - breastmilk is the best for an allergic babe. Even if you think there are things in your milk harming your baby, it is worth its weight in gold. Just for the sake of healing I would never wean an allergic child. Oh, my dd is 31/2, fwiw.
 

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I have a skinny LO too. My 13 month old is in 5th %. We did try egg yolks around 7 months with him because I was not making enough milk and was desperate for something for him to eat. He was intolerant to them and it made things worse for him. I was eating full eggs, he was eating yolks, so that might have been the problem. We wound up with 10+ green snot poops per day. I think mucous poops are a problem in general because they prevent absorption of nutrients. I have eliminated more stuff from my diet now and he's finally not having diarrhea and is gaining faster now....his legs look chubbier. Also, I started giving him brainchild minerals and that has helped tremendously.<br><br>
Also, definitely, you should eat the fattiest cuts of meat that you can find. Absolutely eat all the animal fat you can stand.
 
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