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I am pretty sure I could get medical exemptions from my son's neurologist for any vaccine for which the CDC lists seizure as a side effect. He's got scarring on his brain from an injury to his thalamus at birth. The neurologist told me we should avoid anything that could cause seizures since Keagan will be more prone to them than other kids. Sounds like a good reason to not have a lot of vaxes. (I know Dtap, mmr and chickenpox are known to cause seizures maybe some others)<br><br>
Here's my question. Would getting the medical exemption make claiming religious opposition to other vaccines (or for other children) harder? I am sure I would fight with my ped less if I had the medical exemption... but in the long run would it only hurt us?
 

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in any state that has the "sincere" language in it for religious exemptions, yes. It would hurt your standing since you sought out a specific reason other than religious to not vax him.
 

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It not worth it IMO - it your goal is no vaxing.<br><br>
Med exemptions are damn near impossible, are usually limited to one vax, and are reviewed every year. So every year you have to battle all over again while they try to convince you that the danger is old news.<br><br>
I do think it can hurt your chances if you keep it current. You can "find religion" anytime you want - so old vaxes or exemptions can't affect that. But if you're using a religious exemption *and* trying to renew a medical one... I don't see that working out. Does that make sense?
 

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That's what I was thinking. It would be nice to have for a few reasons (shut up the ped, my folks etc...) but I don't want to make it harder later.<br><br>
I did look it up and WA has "philosophical and personal" reasons as well. Don't know if that changes things.
 

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Well my son's brain is not going to change. He will always be at risk for seizure. But since not every vax is known to cause them, and I hope to God my other kids won't have problems like he has, the religious or philosophical would be best.<br><br>
Funny how it works out that my child with a valid medical reason will still have to use a religious reason not to vax.
 

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Yeah. There is just no way to prove that vaccines are not the best thing for your child. Even if the child has been damaged by a vaccine. Funny!
 

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I know you're son's brain won't change, but IME reality doesn't ususally have a lot to do with these discussions with MDs. Even a medical exemption based on a directly related *vaccine reaction*, it will be revisited yearly and at some point they try to revoke it.<br><br>
And a heads up... they absolutely refuse to acknowledge familial risks. I've had many an... interesting... conversation about this with peds and a couple of Yale immunologists. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shake.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shake"> Did you know that there are familial links to everything in medicine - except suseptibility to vaccines damage?! And that the lack of study in this area means that it a connection doesn't exsist? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/nut.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="nut"> Honest to God - I pressed to clarify that this was indeed what they were claiming. Lack of study seems to create reality.<br><br>
Seriously, you're not allowed to object to the "science". The best protection you have is to say that God came down from a cloud and told you not to vaccinate.<br><br><br>
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Sounds like this is going to be ... fun. I will just act like it all has nothing do do with his med problems. I wouldn't vax anyway... his problems only add to my reasons, they don't create them.<br><br>
FWIW, his nuerologist really does sound like he wants to keep anythign away from him that could possibly cause a seizure. I'd like to know what he thinks, but I guess it could be asking for trouble.
 

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Well, maybe. But I'm skeptical. I've seen too many times where a doc was sooo nice and easygoing and yada yada... until you say no to a vax. Maybe a neuro won't care about your stance, but they might not be willin to back an exemption. They are putting themselves under scrutiny for issuing one.<br><br>
Does s/he know you're not going to vax?
 

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His nuero does not know. I didn't know that I was going to quit vaxing when I last took him there four months ago. Up to that point the only thing I'd opted out of was the hep shot at birth. I hadn't really done my research yet. But he does seem to be against unneeded medical interventions- IE my son's ped wanted to put him in a helmet because his head was kind of cone shaped from the suction used in his delivery and I asked him about it. He was very opposed. I told my ped that I would rather not...and my son's head seems to be going to a normal shape on it's own.<br><br>
He also said several times that I should keep anything from him that could cause seizure, that it was very important. That's what made me think that it would be something he would back.
 

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Well, maybe he's cool - I don't know him... But I've seen enough turn at the mention of avoiding vaxes that I don't trust them.<br><br>
I'm sure if he actually acknowledges the risk of seizure as related to vaccines, he would back it. But there seems to be a black hole when it comes to that connection if you refuse a vax.<br><br>
Just what I've witnessed...<br><br>
I hope it works out well for you and the little guy. I seriously think the easiest and most ironclad way is religious.
 
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