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I didn't take the class, but bought the book "Birthing Naturally the Bradley Way" (I think that's what it's called) at the last minute, and I really like it. I have a question though. I always thought that Bradley advocated moving around a lot during labor, rather than laying down. However, in the book it says that the best laboring positions are laying on your side or sitting propped up by pillows. Or maybe I misunderstood?<br>
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I think possibly they mean the best position for pushing... not laboring... Bradley advocates whatever is the most comfortable position for relaxation... whether its standing, squatting, lying on your side (which is their favorite to talk about), etc... Pushing they suggest that, or being propped up almost to a sit w/pillows... But not being tied to any one thing, and moving as much as you need to for comfort.
 

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in my Bradley class, we talked a lot about moving around a lot, at least changing posistions every 1/2hr-hr, but we did a lot of practice relaxation in that posistion in the book. I used it for about 15 minutes during labor, then decided it wasn't working as relaxation and moved onto something else. I took it as a sign that this position was good to practice relaxation, but wouldn't necessarily be the one to get me through labor.<br><br>
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Bradley advocates moving around and being active in-between contractions, but during the contractions themselves, you lie down on your side and completely relax your body.
 

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Bradley doesn't actually advocate one particular position over another. I believe there is way too much emphasis in "Natural Childbirth the Bradley Way" on lying down positions (including the semi-propped up position). I never teach that particular position in my classes (you are sitting on your sacrum and tailbone which is not a good idea during any part of labor).<br><br>
Changing positions and being upright (to have gravity helping you out) is a good thing to 'shoot for'. I would save the side-lying position for times during labor where you may need some extra rest or contractions are so intense that you need complete focus and relaxation.<br><br>
The 'propped up on pillows' is far from ideal for pushing for the reasons stated above. But, I will admit, the workbooks that we are required to give all students taking Bradley classes show this positon when they talk about 2nd stage. I always make sure students know this should be last on their list of possible ways to push the baby out (short of being flat on one's back). The best thing you can do during your labor is tune into your own body and let it tell you what you need to be doing. It knows better than any book! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"><br><br>
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All I can say is the Bradley relaxation and visualization thing worked like a charm for me.<br><br>
Hope it works for you too.<br><br>
The method is to relax your body completely during contractions so that your pliable body just kind of embraces your uterus which is the only tensing muscle. Then you can just feel your cervix stretching open like a turtleneck sweater to let the baby's head go through. You can be in different positions when you relax.<br><br>
It wasn't exactly comfortable, but it didn't exactly hurt either.<br><br>
The evil nurses at the hospital where I gave birth yelled at me when I tried to move around and change postions, though.<br><br>
--AmyB
 

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One thing Bradley talked about in his book ( can't recall if it is reflected in the Susan McCutchen book, off the top of my head...) is that in early first stage, when the contrax are still sort of far apart, not particularly long or difficult, walking and other movement with pauses during contrax may both A)be very comfortable for the laboring woman and B) help labor progress. You are more likely to want to use the relaxation positions (side lying, etc) later in first stage when teh contrax are taking up most of your time and energy as opposed to be occasional punctuations to your other activities.
 

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I noticed that too, and was confused by it since I had just read Birthing From Within which said the semi-reclined position was not good. I believe it was referred to as a modified squat in the McCutcheon book, but isn't the point of squatting to use gravity? It looked like the women were semi-reclined to me.
 

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I also agree that the Bradley method advocates moving to comfort. I was unfortunately stuck to a darn monitor most of the time, so didn't get to take advantage of that, but I did find my relaxation techniques most effective during transition. I was a screaming wreck for 5-10 minutes, then my marvelous Bradley husband re-calmed and relaxed me, and the Doctor was absolutely amazed. He asked me how I had made such a huge transition in behavior, and I said it was all to DH's credit <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hearts.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hearts"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><br><br>
I did deliver in the semi-squat position, and so wish I hadn't!!! Our Bradley teacher emphasized that one, and the nurse seemed most comfortable with it, so we just went along. I tried squating but on a shaky hospital bed, with all those darn monitor straps around my belly, it was way too uncomfortable. Unfortunately, when the baby came through she pushed my tailbone out of the way...now it kind of sticks out and I can't recline comfortably on a hard surface (like...my BATHTUB!! WAHH!! or any hard chairs, but maybe it's helping my posture <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug">). So I would definitely say avoid it if at all possible, and if you're birthing in a hospital, I'd say get off the bed itself if possible!<br><br>
Best of luck on your birth!
 

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I know exactly what you mean. I read the book with my last pregnancy and practiced the positions all the time. Once labor hit (posterior baby) I was up and around. A couple of hours into labor I thought "The book said to lay down, I better lay down to conserve energy" I layed down for 1/2 of a contraction and was then up like a shot! Saying out loud "Why in the hell do women give birth laying down? This is crazy"!<br>
Bradley helped me a great deal. I found the deep breathing so much easier and helpful than the huffing and puffing I did practicing 'Lamaze' with my first two. I spent most of my labor on the exercise ball but also walked around and crawled on my hands and knees.<br>
Don't relegate yourself to one position, listen to your body and do what comes naturally <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Good luck,<br>
Keri
 

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Thanks for all the replies!<br><br>
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This is exactly what I picture myself doing. I know you can't really plan this stuff out ahead of time, lol, but it's how I picture myself.
 

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With AJ's birth, i didn't really know what i would end up doing for relaxation but with all my bradley training, the ONLY position i could be in for a contraction was my face burried into my pillow, butt sticking up in the air, on my knees... waiting for dh to say, "half way, ok 15 more seconds!" then i could get up... i was perfectly fine until i felt one coming and i'd sprint through the house and back to the face burried position!! haha<br><br>
I'm sure it was funny to watch!! But this was also at the end when they got very hard...<br><br>
The thing that sucked was when i got to the hospital and the stupid nurse had to have me hooked up to the fetal montior to get "her information" she wouldn't "let" me get into that position... I told her i had to get up to get back down to the other postion, i was tangling up her wires and all, hahahahaha... what a bitch she was!! I won't let them manipulate me like that again!! ahhahaha...
 
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