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If any of ya'll out there have issues with progesterone, could I ask a question? What are some of the 'signs' or indicators that this might be a problem?<br><br>
I ask because I just had an m/c... for all I know right now it was just a random flukey one, the way most miscarriages are. But my OBGYN practice is very techie and they've already offered to do the progesterone bloodtest for me, on my next regular cycle.<br><br>
I've decided to do the test because it's just a bloodtest and if they discover that I am low-P then we can take whatever the appropriate action is, the supplements or whatever. I've just read so many stories in which someone has 2 or 3 m/c's in a row before finding out that it was progesterone or something; I'd rather find out right now, before losing another PG even though odds are that everything is fine.<br><br>
Anyways. I was just reading in another thread that spotting before AF is a sign of low P. I always spot for a day or two before AF.<br><br>
I've always thought my cycles were a little weird, because I ovulate early and have slightly long cycles (29-30 days generally) so the time between ovulation and AF is kinda long. I don't remember what that phase is called, or if there's any significance.<br><br>
So, is that true, that spotting prior to AF is an indicator? If so, what kind of spotting, or does it matter? Any other signs?
 

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Well, the spotting can be a good indicator, but the fact that your luteal phase (between ovulation and AF) is long may be a good sign. Just how long are we talking? And do you chart? If so, do your temps stay high during that time?<br><br>
Anyway, I ask because I had 2 miscarriages before we conceived DD. However, my problem wasn't progesterone- and I have loooong LP's (like 18 days) and have great progesterone levels...although I still chose to go on a supplement when I got pregnant with DD.
 

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I don't temp and chart *yet*... we had only been making a <i>concerted</i> effort to get pregnant for two months when it happened. I had decided (right before the period that never came) that the next cycle, I would start doing the temperature thingie. But then I found I was PG so I stopped worrying about my cycle... till now, again! Getting pregnant really eased my fears about infertility, until the miscarriage came.<br><br><br>
I usually ovulate on day 11 or 12 (going by CM and emotional state) and my cycles usually last 29-30 days. Although, the last several cycles before the pregnancy were only 28 days-- I used to joke that AF came before I was even looking for it, keeping me from getting crushed hopes. With the spotting, though, it was always a little hard to pin down the exact day of AF starting.<br><br>
Will charting my temperatures provide an answer about the progesterone? Since I'm planning on getting tested soon I was more looking back for clues than forwards, because by the time I have a chart in order, they'll be doing the blood test anyways.
 

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The only indicator I've heard about for low progesterone is a short luteal phase (the time between ovulation and AF). I have a short luteal phase myself.<br><br>
I also took a month-long saliva test thru my naturopath, and it turns out that my progesterone level isn't the real issue. The real problem is that my estrogen level is too high throughout my cycle -- estrogen dominance. So I'm taking a supplement to support progesterone (which counteracts estrogen) and during the 2 weeks before and right after ovulation, I'm taking a supplement that's supposed to bind to the estrogen so my body can flush it out.<br><br>
All this to say that if you can take a test like that, do it! Because you might find out something else entirely...
 

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Because progesterone is heat-producing (that's what causes your temps go up after ovulation), some women with low progesterone will notice lower-than-normal post-ovulatory temps. That could be another indicator you could notice if you were temping.<br><br>
Goodluck!<br>
Andrea
 

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I have low progestrone and another sign of low prog. is a light period. I had normal luteal phases but my period was 1-2 days and only heavy for about 4 hours. The prog. helps your body build up the uterine lining and with low prog it can't do that as well. I had 3 m/c before they figured out the prog. issues. So it is good you can do it after one. I am so sorry you had to go through your loss.
 

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Thanks for all the info, you guys. The light period thing is kind of worrying me because I've always had lightish periods, 2-3 days with only a short period of real bleeding.
 

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Hi. I tested low progesterone and my only symptoms were very light periods and lowish temps right before AF--the temps would fall fairly early. But I never had spotting and I had 13-14 day lps. I've since been on Prometrium supplements after O and find that they make my feel better emotionally and that I have no menstrual cramps anymore (they used to be really painful).
 

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Just wanted to add another example of having a long luteal phase (14/15 days) but low progesterone. i also don't spot before AF.<br><br>
last week, my midwife suggested I get tested because my post-ov temps weren't super high, and she saw that i eat a lot of soy products when i did a food diary for her (i've since cut them out). went in for the test and it was 5.9. but based on my long luteal phase and regular cycles (27/28 days, never a missed period), it never would've occured to me to check it unless she suggested it.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Just wanted to add another example of having a long luteal phase (14/15 days) but low progesterone. i also don't spot before AF.<br><br>
last week, my midwife suggested I get tested because my post-ov temps weren't super high, and she saw that i eat a lot of soy products when i did a food diary for her (i've since cut them out). went in for the test and it was 5.9. but based on my long luteal phase and regular cycles (27/28 days, never a missed period), it never would've occured to me to check it unless she suggested it.</div>
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I've had a similar exp. I did spot before AF but I did acup. and it went away pretty easily. Then my LPs got longer than normal, anywhere from 12-17 days. I also ate a lot of soy and then we saw my low P/high est. and I cut way down on the soy, seems to have made the estrogen lower a bit. The RE said this is still a LPD though we usually think of that as a short LP. This is not always so.
 

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I had low progestrone which caused a luteal phase defect. We tried for 2 years to get pregnant but i was "just fine". So I starting giving myself progestrone cream and I got pregnant the first month on it. Go figure, after 2 years!! I never spotted before my AF came though.<br><br>
Hope that helps some!
 

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I worry off and on about low progesterone because my temps are still a little low even though the Vitex has definitely helped. I don't want to take the risk of self-medicating with progesterone creams and such since my doula said that can be dangerous. Anyone know of supplements that aren't progesterone but can help with that? I'm not ready to have any testing done.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I usually ovulate on day 11 or 12 (going by CM and emotional state) and my cycles usually last 29-30 days.</div>
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are you going by the start or the end of your EWCM? you should O near the end of it, so you might o later than you think if you have it for many days<br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Will charting my temperatures provide an answer about the progesterone?</div>
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Charting tells lots of things, and as other ladies have stated low post O temps may be a sign. Might as well start now, then you will get used to it faster and have a longer record to look at<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">I have low progestrone and another sign of low prog. is a light period. I had normal luteal phases but my period was 1-2 days and only heavy for about 4 hours. The prog. helps your body build up the uterine lining and with low prog it can't do that as well.</div>
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I was under the understanding that it was Estrogen that built the lining up and progesterone that helped you hold onto it? I'm newer to this so could be missing something, but have just recently read TCOYF cover to cover a few times in my personal cycle frustration.
 
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