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Rabbi Schmuley Boteach from Shalom in the Home
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Yep.
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I concur. It's always something with him.
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That was discussed just last week, I saw this and was like, oh geeze, what's he saying now?
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wow... somehow i've missed everything on him before.
i would have been happy not knowing ever!
but this?
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it seriously breaks my heart -- for the couple who *got* the counceling and then for those who will read that and actually ponder it. even for a second.
i would have been happy not knowing ever!
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| Furthermore, I said, her obsession had turned one of her most attractive body parts into a feeding station, an attractive cafeteria rather than a scintillating piece of flesh. |
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| Obviously, breast-feeding is not the same as carrying on an extramarital affair. But when a mother gives her breasts to her son and takes them away from her husband, the effect on the marriage can feel the same. |
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Yeah, and when I take my breasts away from my child (who needs them) to give to my husband (who doesn't), think of how my relationship with my child is affected!
Poor schmuley has some issues to work out. He's still traumatized by his parents' divorce and is looking for things to blame.
Poor schmuley has some issues to work out. He's still traumatized by his parents' divorce and is looking for things to blame.
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(and why I'm proud that my "stream" of Judaism encourages them).
Sometimes, men just don't get it.
Crying babies don't make romance either.
Unvalidated, unsupported women don't make happy wives.
It's not always about you, dude.
And anyway, the Talmud encourages extended breastfeeding.
Maybe if your mother had breastfed you longer, Shlomo, you wouldn't have jealousy issues?
Sometimes, men just don't get it.
Crying babies don't make romance either.
Unvalidated, unsupported women don't make happy wives.
It's not always about you, dude.
And anyway, the Talmud encourages extended breastfeeding.
Maybe if your mother had breastfed you longer, Shlomo, you wouldn't have jealousy issues?
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(Resisting urge to make yiddush pun here, because that would be uncalled for...)
It is so frustrating that he centers on "cough and diaharhea (sp)" like those are the only side effects! Erk!! Dh and I actually sleep better with DS in our bed, because we can hear him breathing. We never worry about him.
It was a mutual decision to bring DS into our bed. Having a baby has not hurt our sex life. Now, having a baby (physical effects), stresses outside the home and family have affects on a couple's sex life. Also, the biggest problem in "loveless relationships": lack of communication. Does mom know that dad is wanting more intimacy? Does dad know that mom needs attention, etc.?
Probably not.
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It was a mutual decision to bring DS into our bed. Having a baby has not hurt our sex life. Now, having a baby (physical effects), stresses outside the home and family have affects on a couple's sex life. Also, the biggest problem in "loveless relationships": lack of communication. Does mom know that dad is wanting more intimacy? Does dad know that mom needs attention, etc.?
Probably not.
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Did anyone see this rebuttal of Shmuley's essay?
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/196/story_19647_1.html
I thought it was very well-written and pretty much says what I would say, though I'd still like to write to this Rabbi Schmuley myself and give him a piece of my mind.
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I don't disagree that a wife needs to tend to the romantic side of her marriage, but if my man can't still love me and find me attractive just as much as he used to while my body is doing the other half of what it was designed to do (birthing and nurturing and nursing), then why do I need him? HE's the one who's got issues and I see no need to reinforce them.
First off, the birth itself is so brief that I really can't even wrap my head around how a person's desire could reasonable be impacted years or even months down the road by seeing it. I've had bad bouts of the flu where I've thrown up every few hours all night long, and DH was right there with me, holding my hair back and handing me water to rinse my mouth with afterwards. By that rational, DH should have trouble kissing me for years to come after the illness (and subsequent barf-breath) are nothing but a bad memory. Should I blame the 'flu I got in '03 for loss of intimacy as well?
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I think this Shmuley is genuinely a nice guy who tries to help, but the manner in which he goes about it (at least the couple of times I've seen his show) has really just rubbed me the wrong way sometimes.
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http://www.beliefnet.com/story/196/story_19647_1.html
I thought it was very well-written and pretty much says what I would say, though I'd still like to write to this Rabbi Schmuley myself and give him a piece of my mind.
I don't disagree that a wife needs to tend to the romantic side of her marriage, but if my man can't still love me and find me attractive just as much as he used to while my body is doing the other half of what it was designed to do (birthing and nurturing and nursing), then why do I need him? HE's the one who's got issues and I see no need to reinforce them.
First off, the birth itself is so brief that I really can't even wrap my head around how a person's desire could reasonable be impacted years or even months down the road by seeing it. I've had bad bouts of the flu where I've thrown up every few hours all night long, and DH was right there with me, holding my hair back and handing me water to rinse my mouth with afterwards. By that rational, DH should have trouble kissing me for years to come after the illness (and subsequent barf-breath) are nothing but a bad memory. Should I blame the 'flu I got in '03 for loss of intimacy as well?
I think this Shmuley is genuinely a nice guy who tries to help, but the manner in which he goes about it (at least the couple of times I've seen his show) has really just rubbed me the wrong way sometimes.
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i'm sorry, but did this just say that breasts are sex objects? because i was always under the impression that we have them to feed our babies---like on cats for example. i think this guy is just uncomfortable with his own sexuality.
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A sinful relationship?
Good grief, I wonder 1: how long his wife breastfed (if at all), and 2: how she manages to put up with such chauvinism in her home!
Jerk.
Good grief, I wonder 1: how long his wife breastfed (if at all), and 2: how she manages to put up with such chauvinism in her home!
Jerk.
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This is not an attack, just a comment. Please don't take this personal.
My "stream" of Judaism doesn't have female Rabbis but we still have a very supportive of breastfeeding community. In fact, breastfeeding is, I would guess, the norm here. Judaism supports breastfeeding. My "Ultra-Orthodox" community is very pro-breastfeeding. I would hate for people to think that we don't support breastfeeding because ONE MAN has said otherwise. He is ONE MAN who is saying what HE feels. We can disagree with what he says but we shouldn't assume based on HIS OPINION what religious Jews hold. I don't know much about him personally.
Here is some purely anecdotal evidence. I have seen the wife of one of the local Rabbis (very religious) NIP in the park. I have seen 1+ yo babies nursed in the same local park. I know many women who nurse well past the first year mark, particularly some who are married to well-respected Rabbis. My husband ASSUMES that a woman will be breastfeeding and makes sure that we have a quiet place for her to go should she need/want to for the baby. When I needed a quiet place to nurse my little one (he was SO distractable), the Rabbi we were eating by quickly set me up with his wife's nursing pillow. We do have more to do so that every baby who can be breastfed is breastfed (in my community as well). BUT, as you can clearly see, breastfeeding IS, as it SHOULD BE, the norm in my community, irrelevant of what the tv/websites say.
I hope nobody got offended by this.
Originally Posted by LookMommy! (and why I'm proud that my "stream" of Judaism encourages them). Sometimes, men just don't get it. Crying babies don't make romance either. Unvalidated, unsupported women don't make happy wives. |
My "stream" of Judaism doesn't have female Rabbis but we still have a very supportive of breastfeeding community. In fact, breastfeeding is, I would guess, the norm here. Judaism supports breastfeeding. My "Ultra-Orthodox" community is very pro-breastfeeding. I would hate for people to think that we don't support breastfeeding because ONE MAN has said otherwise. He is ONE MAN who is saying what HE feels. We can disagree with what he says but we shouldn't assume based on HIS OPINION what religious Jews hold. I don't know much about him personally.
Here is some purely anecdotal evidence. I have seen the wife of one of the local Rabbis (very religious) NIP in the park. I have seen 1+ yo babies nursed in the same local park. I know many women who nurse well past the first year mark, particularly some who are married to well-respected Rabbis. My husband ASSUMES that a woman will be breastfeeding and makes sure that we have a quiet place for her to go should she need/want to for the baby. When I needed a quiet place to nurse my little one (he was SO distractable), the Rabbi we were eating by quickly set me up with his wife's nursing pillow. We do have more to do so that every baby who can be breastfed is breastfed (in my community as well). BUT, as you can clearly see, breastfeeding IS, as it SHOULD BE, the norm in my community, irrelevant of what the tv/websites say.
I hope nobody got offended by this.
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was there contact info posted anywhere to complain?
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I think there are kosher brands of formula. I remember a while back that a brand of Kosher formula that was distributed in NYC was contaminated and pulled off the shelves.
Originally Posted by elmh23 One question: Is formula Kosher? I figure breastmilk is since ya know God designed it, but what about formula. |
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