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Real Food or EFLF??

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I get to buy a new book (yea!
and am trying to choose between Real Food by Nina Planck or EFLF by Mary Enig and Sally Fallon. I already own Nourishing Traditions and The Maker's Diet, so I know this is the food lifestyle for my family. Which one would you select or recommend over the other?

TIA!!
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I really don't know because I haven't read either. Are you trying to lose weight or just learn more? I just read on http://oreganicthrifty.blogspot.com/...ook-youll.html that The Garden of Eating is "the last diet book you'll ever need". Good luck!
I love Real Food. She has a brand new one that is specifically for moms and babies that I really want to read. Haven't read EFLF yet.
If you already have NT, EFLF is very similar and has some of the same recipes too. I would go with Real Food.

Also EFLF's recipes all contain coconut if that matters to you.
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Also EFLF's recipes all contain coconut if that matters to you.
Is there a problem with coconut oil? I love it! I use it for OCM and making popcorn and other things.
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No, but I don't like to use coconut oil in everything.
I've owned both for awhile now. EFLF I read once, and have picked it up to flip through it maybe twice since. It's worth reading. Real Food, on the other hand, I've lost count of the number of times I've read it all the way through. I love her writing style, and think she does a beautiful job of blending personal experience with good science. She's also extremely pragmatic, which I really appreciate. I've read her newest book (Real Food for Mother and Baby) and it's wonderful!
Yes, I realize I've just written a total love-letter to Nina Planck, and I don't care!
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Haven't read EFLF, LOVE Real Food. Real Food is worth reading, definitely.

But if you're looking for more recipes, what about Full Moon Feast or Grassfed Gourmet?
Well, it sounds like Real Food is the winner!

However, DH (being the sweetest man alive) had heard me talking about EFLF and took it upon himself to go out and buy it today! I love that man!

I'm going to try to find a used copy of Real Food on Amazon and get it soon.

mbravebird, I've heard of Full Moon Feast and Grassfed Gourmet, but don't know much about them. I'll have to see if I can either find them at the library or cheap somewhere.

I'm mostly needing to improve my DS's immune system. He has asthma really bad and ends up in the hospital every time he gets a cold, cough or virus of some sort. I just thought that the more I know, the more I can do to improve his health. I know I can convert just about any recipe to being TF. Cooking and making up recipes is really no problem (thanks, Grandma!), however, I'm mostly concerned with learning exactly what is the healthiest way for DS to eat so that he never ends up in the Peds floor again!
Full Moon Feast is my favorite TF book, it's inspiring and beautiful. Real Food is good also, but certain things about it irk me.
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I'm mostly needing to improve my DS's immune system. He has asthma really bad and ends up in the hospital every time he gets a cold, cough or virus of some sort. I just thought that the more I know, the more I can do to improve his health. I know I can convert just about any recipe to being TF. Cooking and making up recipes is really no problem (thanks, Grandma!), however, I'm mostly concerned with learning exactly what is the healthiest way for DS to eat so that he never ends up in the Peds floor again!
How many fermented foods does he eat? Fermented foods colonize the gut better than supplements do, and good gut colonization really helps the immune system as well as reducing the autoimmune response (which is what the asthma is, right?)

For fermented foods for kids, kefir is a good option (mixed with cinnamon is often a big hit), and water kefir is also an option (takes a regular juice and makes it a fizzy probiotic beverage). Yogurt is also good, but doesn't have as many beneficials as kefir and is harder to make. Although I think dogmom has some sit-on-the-counter yogurt cultures, doesn't she? And then there's always homemade sauerkraut/kimchi, which kids sometimes eat.

How much coconut oil does he get? I found that helpful with immunity issues.

Truly unheated, unstrained honey (different from raw) is really helpful with immune and autoimmune issues, too. The propolis in that is really helpful, so if you can't find unheated honey you could maybe order some propolis.

Do you have elderberry on hand?

The hospital isn't fun. I understand your motivation to stay away from it!
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We really do not eat a lot of fermented foods. I do buy kefir and yogurt, but that's about it. DS can be such a picky eater. My other 2 eat pretty much anything I give them...some complaining once in a while, but they eat it.

The only time he gets coconut oil is when I make popcorn. I'm not sure how to incorporate it into other foods I make. Someone above mentioned that EFLF uses CO in all of the recipes, so maybe I'll get some good ideas from it.

He also gets a tsp or more of honey every day.

I have some elderberry syrup I had bought once when he was sick, but I don't have any elderberry that I give him most of the time. Honestly, I don't know much about it.

These are the reasons I'm trying to get as many books about TF as I can, mostly because I want to educate myself so that I can make the best choices regarding what we put into our bodies so that we can keep healthy. Esp. DS.

I posted earlier that DH went and bought me the EFLF book, but I also found Real Food on Amazon for really cheap! $10.00, including S&H. No one carries that book within 50 miles of me! I ordered it 2 days ago and am hoping it comes in the mail soon!!.

mbravebird, can you buy kefir water or do I have to make it? And if I have to make it, where would I buy the stuff to do it?
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I'm mostly needing to improve my DS's immune system. He has asthma really bad and ends up in the hospital every time he gets a cold, cough or virus of some sort. I just thought that the more I know, the more I can do to improve his health. I know I can convert just about any recipe to being TF. Cooking and making up recipes is really no problem (thanks, Grandma!), however, I'm mostly concerned with learning exactly what is the healthiest way for DS to eat so that he never ends up in the Peds floor again!
PLEASE check out Gut And Psychology Syndrome (GAPS) by Natasha Campbell-McBride. I also have a GAPS/SCD thread going here in this forum. I believe it might be very helpful for you.
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Check out this person's website http://www.optimalhealthnetwork.com/default.asp and the book "10 Days to Optimal Health". There is a lot in it that you probably wouldn't want to do to your son, like the cleanse and the colonics, but she bases the whole book on healing the gut, and there by boosting your immune system and using TF foods to do it. I found it to be a very informative book, and would really like to follow the cleanse someday when I have the money.
I just read your post about ideas on how to get your son to eat more coconut oil. And I just had to write another post. Here's what I do to get my DD to eat the things I want her to eat like homemade raw milk kefir, cod liver oil, and butter oil, and flax seed. I put them in smoothies, and she loves them!!! Just maybe melt the coconut oil before you add it. I make a big batch of smoothy and put the left overs in an old glass jar in the fidge for her to drink when she wants to. I put in the blender kefir, bananas, frozen berries, yogurt (just so it's not all kefir because the homemade stuff has a really strong flavor), a 1 1/2 tsp of my clo/bo blend, ground flax seed, and a little organic juice to thin it out because she drinks it out of a sippy cup, and blend it until it's thin and it looks like the flax seeds have been broken down a little bit more. I don't measure any of it except the clo/bo, I just make sure I'm putting enough sweet tasting stuff in it to cover up the flavor of the good stuff. Also, I wouldn't worry about the coconut oil getting hard once it's been blended into the mixture, because the butter oil doesn't separate or get hard in the smoothies I make at all, and butter oil is hard at room temp too.
I'm thinking once I run out of flax seed I'm going to start using hemp seed, because that is supposed to be awesome stuff.
If DD didn't drink her smoothies I'd be really worried about her diet because she's pretty picky.
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leila and punkrockmomma, thanks for the links. I'll check them out ASAP!! (I'll look for the GAPS/SCD link, too).

punkrockmomma, I'll have to try out your smoothie recipe. DS isn't the fondest of kefir by itself, so maybe with all the other ingredients, he'll be more apt to drink it. He sounds kind of like your LO.
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We really do not eat a lot of fermented foods. I do buy kefir and yogurt, but that's about it.
If you make the kefir and yogurt, the probiotics will be more numerous and varied and potent, so the little you get in them will pack more punch.

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The only time he gets coconut oil is when I make popcorn. I'm not sure how to incorporate it into other foods I make.
Kids often like those "nut butter balls" -- mix together some sort of nutbutter, honey, and coconut oil, roll into balls, chill and eat as snacks. Supposedly very very yummy; I've never had them. I think the recipe is in NT.

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I have some elderberry syrup I had bought once when he was sick, but I don't have any elderberry that I give him most of the time. Honestly, I don't know much about it.
You wouldn't give it to him regularly, just when he's sick. We find it very effective over here. It's hard to find it without preservatives, but this website has a great TF version of elderberry syrup that uses raw ACV and raw honey to preserve it: http://www.building-health.com/apith...-8-oz-p-6.html

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mbravebird, can you buy kefir water or do I have to make it? And if I have to make it, where would I buy the stuff to do it?
Water kefir you'll have to make. Cultures for health has all the options you would need for making your own anything -- including water kefir and easier-than-normal yogurt:
http://www.culturesforhealth.com/zen/index.php

HTH! Good luck with everything.
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NT and EFLF are the only two TF books I own. With NT, which I use all the time, I don't feel I really need EFLF though I have read it once. I've lost weight just using the NT recipes. I want another TF cookbook and I have been thinking of Real Food and Full Moon Feast both. I also want the Foxfire book of Appalachian Cookery. Once you get the principles down many recipes can be converted as well.
Another thought in the meantime is to read some great blogs. Here is a list of some really educational ones and ones that have good recipes.

Educational/Recipes
Nourished Kitchen
Real Food Cure

Recipes
Real Food Recipes
Caveman Food
Naturally Thrifty Homemaker - not all recipes are TF, but some good ideas.
Well, I have them both, and I gotta say, I love Real Food. She does such a marvelous job of encapsulating everything, it is a wonderful primer. So if you want to explain to others why you eat the way you do, and maybe, if they are interested, why they should as well, Real Food is invaluable. EFLF is very interesting, and I use some of the recipes, but as someone said, it is indeed all about coconut oil. My DH doesn't like CO, though we recently discovered expeller-pressed stuff that has no coconut taste, and that he doesn't mind. Anyway, my vote is for Nina Planck's book, too!
Op, my son has asthma and has had times when he's been quite ill with it. Here's some of what we do, just as an fyi. Raw cows or goat's milk--he really only can tolerate raw, and there are some benefits for asthma reportedly. CLO every day. Staring to use coconut oil in popcorn, baking, etc. Probiotics-kefir is great in banna smoothies! In the winter elderberry syrup every day. When he starts to feel wheezy or illness is coming I start with immune boosting, non-caf. teas.

That's my quick list!
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