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Once I start thinking on something, no matter how far fetched, the idea grows and pretty soon I'm going at it.<br>
First a little background. I had to deep clean my house three times this week.<br>
I do a normal pick up several times a day. Once a week I do the deep clean. For some reason this week, every time I turned around our house was in a nightmarish state.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:<br>
We are remodeling the first floor and I have it so stream lined that cleaning is really simple.<br>
But the upstairs. It's bad.<br>
So here's what I was thinking.<br>
Gut it.<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br>
We live in a converted barn. When you walk up our stairs, the first room is a huge open bedroom with pine walls and floors and a catherdral ceiling. It's stunning. It's my five year olds bedroom.<br>
But this is where I"ve allowed her to keep all her plastic toys that don't jive with my Waldorf ways.<br>
I'm thinking about taking her bed off the frame and going totally zen. Just the mattress on the floor with organic bedding and some books beside her bed.<br>
For our room-same deal.<br>
It would save me TONS of time as far as cleaning goes.<br>
It would open up my time for better things-like more gardening and bread making.<br>
I could keep her precious toys in one cupboard and purge through the rest of her stuff-again.<br>
But here's the thing.<br>
Dh is married to his dvd collection that takes up most of our room. And he has a lot of other crap like that. I just don't want it in my space.<br>
The other thing is that my kids wouldn't really own anything much anymore lol.<br>
Have I lost it?<br>
Let's talk about mother's in charge of the clean space vs people have to live there too.<br>
(Just between you and me, having a dvd collection is stupid.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/whistling.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="whistle">)
 

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I have this struggle as well. I think there has to be a balance struck between our needs as moms and people living in our space, and the needs of the others that share that space. I am constantly culling our kids toys, getting rid of what I think is crap, and giving it away. Only problem is, my almost four yr old has a memory like an elephant, and will ask me just where exactly is that "precious plastic alarm clock, spray bottle, etcher sketcharoony kabab" that he got 18 months ago at a birthday party.<br><br>
So far, I have gotten away with "I haven;t seen that toy for a long time" but I feel dishonest doing it. I don't want my kids to grow up clinging to stuff b/c it was always randomly disappearing when they were kids, you know?<br><br>
But.....we live in 700 sq feet. 2 kids, 2 adults, and a cat and dog. And i love simple, not cluttered space. So i try to keep the kids crap in the play room, we have a family bed in one room and then there is the living room and kitchen.<br><br>
I think with a five yr old, you'd probably have to try to convince her to get rid of stuff. And with dh....well...it's hard to push your ideas of good space onto him, but i find what works with dh is if I tell him why i'm thinking what I'm thinking, how it would make our living space better/homier/ spacious, whatever. He usually comes around.<br><br>
Good luck,<br>
Anno
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Have I lost it?<br>
Let's talk about mother's in charge of the clean space vs people have to live there too.<br>
(Just between you and me, having a dvd collection is stupid.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/whistling.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="whistle">)</div>
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well, you both do have to live there, i say find some sort of happy medium. for us, my dh's clutter things are going to be relegated to his new "room of scary things" down in the basement. he loves to collect all sorts of horror, sci fi, and fantasy stuff, but my dd is wierded out by almost all of it, i am too most of the time<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">(Just between you and me, having a dvd collection is stupid.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/whistling.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="whistle">)</div>
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Yeah, my dh has a "Classics" (as in books) collection. He NEVER has read any of them (except in college). He says he "loves the classics", and I'm sure he will one day read them, but can't he just go to the library and take them out when that day comes in 8 more years? You can only read one (or so) book at a time! I have books, but it's b/c I actually read them, or reference them. He'd say "but it only takes up two book shelves (double rows)". That's so not the point... I want EVERYTHING <i>not used</i> OUT. OF. THE. HOUSE.!!!<br><br><br>
and BTW, the picture you painted of the simple Zen bedroom was so awesome!!! I understand where you're coming from... when I spring-clean (starting next week- after my kitchen renovation), I'm going to do it entirely different than any other year. I'm seriously paring down!!! No more "end tables in the corner of the room, b/c a bare piece of floor looks empty" thinking anymore! You have NO IDEA how EXCITED I am to simplify my house, so when baby comes this july, it's so much easier to clean... AAAAHHH!!! I CAN'T WAIT TO SPRING CLEAN!!! (I'm seriously sick in the head!)
 

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How would taking a mattress off the bed frame help save cleaning time? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/headscratch.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="headscratch"><br><br>
I am confused. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"><br><br>
I'll never be a minimalist, and my husband is really not even on board with most of the things I want to do...so we make compromises.<br><br>
I take care of my stuff, I've been trying to teach the kids to take care of their stuff, and my husband takes care of his stuff.<br><br>
We all have different levels of what is enough/too much stuff, so we each decide for ourselves. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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The only way taking a bed off the frame to save cleaning time is because you'd never have to drag out junk from under it. I think that thought came from the zen decor idea. Only a bed on the floor and books. I think OP is wanting to get rid of all the toys from the area? I will be interested to see how this unfolds <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> Especially the DVD battle <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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the mattress or boxspring on the floor doesn't work in my experience in warm humid climate >>> mold all over the bottom.<br><br>
Living in a warm moist (summer) climate taught me that EVERYTHING needs to breathe.
 

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We keep our DVD collection in those DVD books - we got rid of the plastic cases. It saves space, time and clutter. DH did it first, and it was hard for me to give up those plastic cases (Why?) but it really has beennice. Now we just have a few (or a lot) of black books with DVDs in ABC order. We did it with DD's movies too. It was nice postpartum when I was supposed to stay in bed and I had a fever. All I needed to do was let DD look through the book, pick out her DVD and then I told her how to put it in. Once the movie was on I could go back to sleep and DD was entertained. We don't do this all of the time, but there are times when a movie day is warrented (like when Mom has a 105 fever).<br><br>
HTH!
 
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