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<p>Was trying to figure out what should ask for:</p>
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<p>$4.5k (3k GBP) to fly us all out from the UK, and to partly cover potential repatriation costs, if it doesn't work out.</p>
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<p>$2k to airfreight over some of our stuff we most like.</p>
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<p>$3k to furnish new house, or ship most our furniture over -- we'd still have to buy some things, though, unless they came in a rental, like washing machine and refridgerator.</p>
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<p>$8k to buy a used 6 seater car -- would be silly to ship over the one we have, which we only use about twice a week anyway, is right hand drive and a lemon.  We'd probably need 2 cars in SV; anyway, is it reasonable to ask for something towards car costs?  Although I was thinking maybe DH company could buy the car and we could have it as an official perk.</p>
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<p>$9k towards deposit, first month's rent,last month's rent on where we'll live.  We simply won't have this cash, otherwise.</p>
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<p>DH is only a lead developer, not an executive, so I don't know if relocation packages for programmers run up to that kind of money,nearly $24k.  What do you think?</p>
 

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<p>Oops, I meant 27k in last line.</p>
 

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<p>DH is a developer/software engineer and we are in Oregon in the middle of negotiating a job offer. Frankly, a lot of companies aren't even offering relocation packages any more or if they are, they are piddly just because the market is so bad right now. You could probably get something decent bc you are coming from the UK, but I doubt it would be 27k. One of our friends (senior lead developer) just took a new job with the same company that DH is negotiating with and they REALLY wanted our friend - he asked for a 15k signing bonus and they turned him down. They did make him a decent salary offer, but yeah... You can try, but from what I have seen/heard in the last year or so while we have been looking for jobs, it seems unlikely that you will get all 27k.</p>
 

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<p>I don't know if software is different, but when we relocated to Silicon Valley the university offered us 3 or 4K towards relocation (we came from Nebraska, so about 2000 miles).  We negotiated for 6K, but still had to pay lots out of pocket.</p>
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<p>27K seems outrageous to me honestly.</p>
 

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<p>We just relocated here from Texas and even though we brought most of our things, total cost was somewhere around $20K.  We did a POD (which isn't even remotely as close as movers), drove ourselves, etc.  We are renting to see if we even like it here and most houses ask for first and last month's rent, plus a deposit.  For us, that ended up at over $8K out of pocket.  That's not including all of the utility hook-up fees, etc.  I say, if they will give you that much, that's great.  Back in the day (about 5 years ago), our other company was going to give us $50K to move about three hours away.</p>
 

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<p>Thanks for the replies, in a way I'm asking because I need to figure out what the real costs are -- whether it's even practical to consider this move.  If we don't like the deal than DH won't agree to it.  I am getting very cold feet about the lifestyle changes we'd have to endure, anyway.DH thinks that given the other costs the company would encounter that 27k might be small change (shock). Fundamentally we need to figure out what's sensible, anyway.Ta again.</p>
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<p>HI again,</p>
<p>I did more specific monthly costings.  2 adults, 4 kids, a big car to be used sparingly, at least some medical + dental cover.  Came up with</p>
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<p>Rent: $2800-$4000</p>
<p>Groceries: $700-$1000</p>
<p>Phone + Broadband: $100</p>
<p>Gas+Electric: $80</p>
<p>Extracurric activities (this kills me!): $350-$400</p>
<p>Preschool (3 half days/week): $250-$300</p>
<p>Car related: $200-$500+</p>
<p>Dental and medical related charges: $200-$1000</p>
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<p>Total = $4480 - $6680+</p>
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<p>Ballpark figures, obv. no room in there for retirement, savings, disasters or even Christmas.  Do you think I've missed anything else out?</p>
<p>We rarely eat out, I buy clothes in thrift stores.  Not sure what we'll do about house furnishings.</p>
 

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<p>We are moving to the area this Spring and negotiated a relocation package with my husbands new company. He is an executive, but I think that given the climate for tech companies right now they are willing to pay for good people. Did you hear about Google and the bonuses they gave to retain their employees? There is a lot of company to company transferring going on behind the scenes at the moment, at all levels.</p>
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<p>Our initial offer covered packing and moving our household and one car, one month storage, one month temp housing, and one month rental car. We pushed back and got them to increase the housing and storage to 3 months and include a sizeable sign on bonus to help us cover all of the other costs, as well as assistance to sell our current home. There is a completely separate relocation company handling all of these details and we have a year to use all of the benefits.</p>
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<p>I think it is worth over-estimating your moving costs and asking for what you will need. I have a friend who is a recruiter for a really, really large tech company in our area(Seattle) and she was able to advise us on what to negotiate for. She suggested asking for the increase in housing and storage as well as the sign on bonus. She said the company has more flexibility to provide 'things' versus cash;housing, storage, car rental.</p>
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<p>I hope this information helps!</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Cavy</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1286510/relocation-package-of-27k-to-move-from-uk-to-silicon-valley-is-that-silly-money#post_16149522"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>HI again,</p>
<p>I did more specific monthly costings.  2 adults, 4 kids, a big car to be used sparingly, at least some medical + dental cover.  Came up with</p>
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<p>Rent: $2800-$4000</p>
<p>Groceries: $700-$1000</p>
<p>Phone + Broadband: $100</p>
<p>Gas+Electric: $80</p>
<p>Extracurric activities (this kills me!): $350-$400</p>
<p>Preschool (3 half days/week): $250-$300</p>
<p>Car related: $200-$500+</p>
<p>Dental and medical related charges: $200-$1000</p>
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<p>Total = $4480 - $6680+</p>
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<p>Ballpark figures, obv. no room in there for retirement, savings, disasters or even Christmas.  Do you think I've missed anything else out?</p>
<p>We rarely eat out, I buy clothes in thrift stores.  Not sure what we'll do about house furnishings.</p>
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<p>I think you estimates for phone/broadband are low, we pay about $180 for 2 cell phones, and good internet, no house phone.</p>
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<p>Your preschool estimate is also low, for a good 3 day a week half day preschool expect to pay closer to $450-500 (that's what it is in East Bay which is generally less expensive then SV)</p>
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<p>If you buy a car with a $12k loan the payment + insurance plus gas is going to be between $4-500, for one car.</p>
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<p>Honestly, this area is EXPENSIVE, silicon valley even more than where I am in East Bay (that's why we moved).</p>
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<p>Thanks, it's all useful info. :)</p>
 

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<p>We just left that area, and you preschool costs are really low.  For my son to go 5 half days last year was $750/mo.  There are preschools that are more expensive and some that are less (usually coops where you have to work in the classroom and oftentimes go to classes in the evenings).  </p>
 
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