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Anyone else read this? What is your take, I mentioned it on another board and they say the numbers tell the number that had to have surgery is far less than those die from the virus every year
 

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Anyone else read this? What is your take, I mentioned it on another board and they say the numbers tell the number that had to have surgery is far less than those die from the virus every year</div>
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Only about 20 children die annually in the United States.<br><br>
Those people on the other board are referring to <span style="text-decoration:underline;">worldwide</span> mortality figures in un/underdeveloped countries, which the CDC uses in order to scaremonger the uninformed parents in our country.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Anyone else read this?</div>
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Here's an active thread on the subject: <a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=615676" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=615676</a>
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Here's an active thread on the subject: <a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=615676" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=615676</a></div>
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Says I cant read the thread! I am very interested in this My dd goes to the DR tomorrow and I am pretty sure that I dont want it but need a little guidance.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Says I cant read the thread! I am very interested in this My dd goes to the DR tomorrow and I am pretty sure that I dont want it but need a little guidance.</div>
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It's been removed.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Says I cant read the thread! I am very interested in this My dd goes to the DR tomorrow and I am pretty sure that I dont want it but need a little guidance.</div>
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The thread has been removed as someone already posted but there is no reason for you to rush into the vaccine. You can always give it but you can never take it back out again. So why make a rash decision on something so very improtant. Put it off and do more research.
 

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I'm just baffled by this vaccine more so than any other vaccine right now. Why the hell did anyone feel like we needed a vaccine for rotavirus, the FDA statement it's self says 20-70 kids in the US die from rotavirus every year...that has to be less than or at least comparable to things like food poisoning, or the common cold...why in the hell would you vaccinate for that? I mean, yea, I get it, it's not fun, my DS had it at about 13 months old or so...but geesh, a vaccine?<br><br>
And I thought the chicken pox vaccine made no sense...
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Why the hell did anyone feel like we needed a vaccine for rotavirus, the FDA statement it's self says 20-70 kids in the US die from rotavirus every year...that has to be less than or at least comparable to things like food poisoning, or the common cold...why in the hell would you vaccinate for that? I mean, yea, I get it, it's not fun, my DS had it at about 13 months old or so...but geesh, a vaccine?</div>
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Here's how the government has to "promote" rotavirus vaccination:<br><br><i>Each year in the United States rotavirus is responsible for:<br>
• more than 400,000 doctor visits<br>
• more than 200,000 emergency room visits<br>
• 55,000 to 70,000 hospitalizations<br>
• 20-60 deaths</i><br><br>
Here's how I tear that down and put things into perspective:<br><br>
The CDC states that almost every child will get rotavirus by the age of five. There are approx. four (4) million children children born each year in the United States . . . and another 20 or so million under the age of five.<br><br>
These figures are not the least bit impressive, particularly the number of "doctor visits." Millions of children visit the doctor's office for colds and ear infections alone. Parents bring their kids in for EVERYTHING (including very mild diarrhea and vomitting), so touting the number of doctor visits is pretty lame.<br><br>
The rotavirus emergency room visits are not impressive either . . . millions of parents routinely use the ER as their "doctor's office," including those parents of children with all severities of rotavirus.<br><br>
And the most ironic twist is the 50,000 hospitalization rate: not too impressive when you factor in that there are about <i>500,000</i> children hospitalized each year in the U.S. due to asthma.
 

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Well we have an appointment in about an hour and I have decided that I will finish the Polio and the Hep B she has already had two Hep B so why not finish it up and I am scared to death of Polio. After that I will do more research, I know I am dead set against Roto and Influenza and Chicken Pox.<br><br>
The rest I will have to do some more reading
 

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Couple questions,<br><br>
When is rotovax usually given and is it live?<br><br>
And camomof5- you do know that Hep B is primarily spread through blood (i.e sex and child birth via infected mom) and IV drug use....up to you what to do but just wondering....odds are your babe won't deal with those scenarios for about another decade...
 

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Yes, it is live and is administered at 2, 4 and 6 months of age.<br><br>
This vaccine not only sheds in the stool, but also <i>causes</i> rotavirus/rotavirus-like illness in the vaccinee. In fact, the CDC states that a child vaccinated with RotaTeq is more likely to experience diarrhea and vomitting after EACH dose than a child who did not receive the vaccine.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Couple questions,<br><br>
When is rotovax usually given and is it live?<br><br>
And camomof5- you do know that Hep B is primarily spread through blood (i.e sex and child birth via infected mom) and IV drug use....up to you what to do but just wondering....odds are your babe won't deal with those scenarios for about another decade...</div>
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Well she has already had 2 doses so I figured I would finish them. So she got the two vax today
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Well she has already had 2 doses so I figured I would finish them. So she got the two vax today</div>
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I think the point was that if you aren't sure, you don't have to continue. Vaccines can be stopped or resumed <i>at any point</i> during the series. The series <i>never</i> has to be started over if you decide to finish later. If you wanted her to have the Hep B vax, then it made sense to finish right now. If not, the fact that she already had two doses was no reason to finish. The risk of side effects does not decrease with each additional dose of Hep B vaccine and some studies have shown that the risk increases with each additional dose. That's why she gave you that information.
 

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Oh so its not like you have to have like a certain amount of doses in a certain amount of time? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: Jeez I have too much to learn.<br>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Oh so its not like you have to have like a certain amount of doses in a certain amount of time?</div>
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Not at all. However, there are minimum intervals between doses. In other words, depending on a person's age, you have to let a certain amount of time go by before you can give another dose. For example, you can get the varicella vaccine at any time, but a month has to elapse before you administer the second dose.<br><br>
Also, some vaccines like Hib are age dependent. If you stop vaccinating after the first shot and resume at 18 months, only one dose is recommended to complete the series.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'm just baffled by this vaccine more so than any other vaccine right now. Why the hell did anyone feel like we needed a vaccine for rotavirus, the FDA statement it's self says 20-70 kids in the US die from rotavirus every year...that has to be less than or at least comparable to things like food poisoning, or the common cold...why in the hell would you vaccinate for that? I mean, yea, I get it, it's not fun, my DS had it at about 13 months old or so...but geesh, a vaccine?<br><br>
And I thought the chicken pox vaccine made no sense...</div>
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Hey, not just 'a vaccine', but a vaccine with common side effects such as vomiting and diarrhea (aside from more serious and rare ones). <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> As in, you absolutely have to protect your child from a risk of diarrhea that gives lasting immunity on exposure with a vaccine that takes 3 doses with risk of diarrhea, vomiting, etc. after each dose and a very questionable temporary 'protection' afterwards <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:.
 
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