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I have been thinking a lot about the women I have spoken to (or seen here on mdc) that have 'done their research' and have concluded that vaccines are safe and are the necessary thing to do. I have also 'done my research' and have come to a completely opposite conclusion.<br><br>
Since there are so many different studies out there, claiming different things, perhaps it really is confusing to people on the fence about it - people who want to trust the doctors choose to follow the studies that go with what we have been told all our lives... that vaccines are safe and are the necessary thing to do.<br><br>
My journey in questioning vaccines began with wondering if vaccines are safe, but my conclusion is that even if vaccines are SAFE (and I don't think they are), IMHO, they are not really necessary - for MOST people.<br><br>
What I have learned is that if you look at each illness, MOST of them are not a big deal at all (measles, mumps and rubella, just to name a few).<br><br>
I mean, if you look at the statistics of measles, for instance, the death rate was at almost zero for about TWELVE YEARS before the vaccine was introduced! What is so scary about that? And I mean that question seriously - is there something I am missing? What is so scary about measles??<br><br>
I often wonder why vaccines are administered the way they are... Of course, I know it's mostly about money and that it's also easier to scare parents into getting the vaccines for babies than for teens. But wouldn't it make sense to start over and take a look at the diseases they are vaccinating for? For example, rubella. Instead of giving it to ALL babies, why don't they offer it to girls in their mid- to late-teens (after a titer check, of course!)?<br><br>
And why don't they just offer the mumps vax to boys after a certain age so the chances of sterility (if that's truly the reason for the vax) from the 'disease' are lower?<br><br>
And chicken pox? Come on. (I know the CDC admits this one is about economics and parents having to take time off from work, etc.)<br><br>
And Hep b? For babies???<br><br>
Of course I could go on... It just seems to me, that instead of adding MORE AND MORE vaccines to our children, we should step back and look things over. We are ruining people with chronic disease instead of saving people from illnesses they don't need to be saved from!<br><br>
Just my thoughts for a Saturday night. I hope I didn't ramble too much!
 

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my little Nevaeh was born back in Nov 05. she didn't have the Vitamin K shot and i wouldn't let them give her a Hep B shot. we had a birth plan written up and no one gave us any grief and followed our wishes. i had found a pediatrician who didn't mind that we didn't want to vaccinate and everytime he sees Nevaeh for check-ups he's amazed at how healthy she is. at first when i was pregnant i was going to vaccinate but my husband wanted me to do the research before i made the final decision and i did. Dr Sherry Tenpenny's DVDs were very informative and i'm glad i was able to "see the truth".<br><br>
i work for a pediatric answering service and i've seen babies who were born around the time my Nevaeh was who are already very sick with ear infections, colds, etc. Nevaeh hasn't been sick once! she's getting over cradle cap right now, that's it.<br><br>
sometimes i worry if i made the right decision, but i know i did because of how healthy she is. even with a mumps scare here in Nebraska/Iowa, i'm sticking to my decision.<br><br>
great post Mammom! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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Sometimes I really wish I could go back to being a believer in this profit driven american health system. Thankfully those moments pass quickly and my mind kicks back in. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Gerbil must have fallen asleep again. LOL<br><br>
Really though, I agree. Even if they are safe, the numbers show they are not needed and that getting some of the illnesses can actually protect us life long from itself and others that harsh as well.<br><br>
Too often I have to sit back and watch my dear friends put poison into their children through vax. I always warn them, part of it because my children are not vaxed and I rather my kids do not get the messed with illness from their children. Though everyone likes to be right, I hate being right about the side effects of vax and when friends see it first hand it is always a sad thing.<br>
Worse when the Dr plays it off as nothing and eventually talks the parents into thinking the same, no report is made, and said parent keeps vaxing.<br>
-shiver-<br><br>
Ok, done ranting!<br><br>
Blessings,<br>
Kontessa
 

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As one person who has posted that she will vax fully...even though I really am still on the fence, can I say ITA with the points you've brought up regarding NECESSITY. Esp your points on Rubella, Mumps, Hep B. How bout Polio, too? How can that be considered necessary?<br><br>
Why aren't we allowed to choose? Why does the government care if my son does get measles?
 

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The people who call the shots aren't just trying to save your kid, they're trying to save everyone...the infant who might catch pertussis, the immunocompromised for who the vax doesn't work, etc.<br>
And now that this has been the MO for so long, it's almost gone too far to step back and change the system. Way too much fault would have to be admitted in the process.<br>
It doesn't matter to them that <i>more</i> otherwise healthy kids are harmed by vaxes than there are immunocompromised kids who might die from measles. They can't even afford to take too close of a look at the statistics. It's all just gone beyond the point of no return.
 

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I think you're exactly right.<br><br>
To me, the folks who may be missing the point a little are the ones who lump all vaccinations together as 'good' or all vaccinations together as 'bad'. As you've seen for yourself, it simply is impossible to generalize in that way without overlooking some very crucial benefits that might be gained, and some very real risks that might reasonably be avoided.<br><br>
The unfortunate reality is that parents entrust the medical community to evaluate the data and make safe and reasonable recommendations. I think virtually all of us here feel that this has not been the case. Many of the recommendations have been unjustified, many of the vaccine risks ignored or downplayed, and many of the infectious risks overstated.<br><br>
That does not mean, however, that there is no utility in vaccinating. Often there is great benefit derived. Frustratingly, parents are left to sift through the data themselves and try to make independent decisions about when this is the case, since the governing bodies have essentially lost all credibility and seem unwilling or unable to take steps to improve the situation.
 
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