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ok, no one laugh <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/duck.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Duck">:<br><br>
i'm asking because my husband and i have always wanted to get involved in mountain rescue. ok ok, i know....we live in the middle of NC right now...no mountains<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> however, we're going to be moving to CO within the next 6mo to 1 year. we are avid hikers, dh was an army ranger, and i'm a physician assistant so i feel like we'd bring some good knowledge to this kind of volunteer work.<br><br>
anyway, in a previous thread about scent work and tracking i got to thinking that wouldn't it be great if we could get my dog miles involved in mountain rescue too! now i realize some of you may roll your eyes and think "geez, this crazy girl can't even get her dog through agility....what is she thinking?!" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hide.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hide">:<br><br>
what i'm thinking is once he's through this fear issue, or if he ends up just not liking agility, perhaps i could try tracking. so my question is this, how would i even think about getting started?? there is a training facility near me that offers intro to tracking courses and also AKC tracking courses. which one would i want to do if my goal was to go on to SAR? also, there is an SAR group near me that i was thinking about getting involved in if we're going to be here for a little while longer. i have web links to these two places if that would help anyone out in answering my questions....just let me know <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
thanks!<br>
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Let me see your links.<br>
For SAR style tracking, AKC is fine, it's schutzhund that requires a completely nose down track...true tracking, YES, but realistic or fast tracking, NO.<br>
Tracking is a basic requirement for a search dog however, don't be surprised if it doesn't get used a bunch. Unless you have a specific last known location, dogs are air scenting, however, I will frequently use a track if the dog finds an item that can be varified as belonging to the person we're searching for. --not everyone does though, I do it because Havoc happens to be an excellent tracker, this does give me the ability to track days old tracks, but it's a very specialized area. More often than not, a dog is simply looking for ANY human scent in your search area.<br>
SAR dogs are needed in all terrains. Also, a good sar dog will be called out of his own territory frequently. For instance, I've searched twice as much in the USA than I have in Canada.
 

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interesting! i was reading about tracking dogs, trailing dogs, and air-scenting dogs...so cool!<br><br>
anyway, here are the links to the training center and to the SAR place. thanks shannon!<br><br>
kristin<br><br><a href="http://www.dogtrainingraleighnc.net/tracking.htm#Tracking%20Workshop" target="_blank">http://www.dogtrainingraleighnc.net/...ing%20Workshop</a><br><br><a href="http://www.wcsar.net/default.htm" target="_blank">http://www.wcsar.net/default.htm</a>
 

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The SAR page, I don't know any of them, but that doesn't mean a whole lot. Ask what certifications they get for the dogs, do you need to get those on your own or do they assist with training, what types of searches are they typically called out for and how often do they get called out.
 

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well that was my question.....i'm not sure which class would be better?!?! the cary location is certainly A LOT closer <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> i went to an akc agility trial at the other location today and it was a faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar drive.<br><br>
thanks for helping me. i've been looking into this ever since you were writing to me on how to teach miles basic tracking. it's really very interesting to me. also, i found a book today...it's called "search and rescue dogs: training the k9 hero". ever heard of it?? is it a good book or are there others that you would recommend more?<br><br>
thanks again!
 

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The cary one is the first one right? (I've closed that window now) The one taught by the one guy rather than the couple?? That's the one I would pick, especially if you are considering SAR work.
 

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hmmmm....checking <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/Bolt.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="bolt">
 

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that book is good, but it may be a little beyond you. It's not exactly written to be newbie friendly.<br>
Go to <a href="http://www.workingdogs.com" target="_blank">www.workingdogs.com</a> and look under the SAR sections<br>
Also<br><a href="http://www.uwsp.edu/psych/dog/work2.htm" target="_blank">http://www.uwsp.edu/psych/dog/work2.htm</a>
 

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SAR BC is one of the highest rated SAR groups in North America, they also have lots of info on doing avalance rescue if you are still considering that.<br><a href="http://www.sarbc.org/dog1.html" target="_blank">http://www.sarbc.org/dog1.html</a><br><br>
This is the RCMP's civilian search dog page, also very imformative.<br><a href="http://www.canadiansearchdogs.com/" target="_blank">http://www.canadiansearchdogs.com/</a>
 

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okey doke, i'll take a look at that site. i'm sleepy so i'm going to go relax <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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hmm interesting. I have no idea if they have their own Canine unit or not. If you do ever work with them we could go for coffee or something <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><br><br>
Better your dogs than Heathers <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">
 

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They used to have 4 dogs. I know they call in RCMP or FEMA certified dogs if they need someone for specialized work. Once you are certified with an agency the Canadian Government recognizes, you can technically be called by any of the big teams. Which is why for the higher level certifications we have to be experienced in repelling with dogs and doing jumps with dogs.
 

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hey shannon,<br><br>
how long could i expect all of this to take? 2 years? more/less? i'm just trying to guage it in terms of an upcoming move, etc.<br><br>
well i'm off to finish painting my teeter and to build more jumps! mr. miles is in for a happy surprise today!!<br><br>
kristin
 
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