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Yesterday when we went to pick up dd from school we learned that there was a new policy in effect.<br>
They painted a yellow line on the walk for parents or whoever is responsoble to pick up the children after school to stand behind.<br><br>
Someone's children where picked up by "the wrong people" To me this is a crock of sh**. How did the adult think it was okay to do this and why did they want to take someone else kid with them> Isn't this called kidnapping?<br><br>
The teachers let the children out through the doors and instruct them to go to their families if they see them. The kids run out and hug their mommies and daddies and the children who get picked up by sitters or someone else do the same or whatever. But my question is...how do the teachers know who is responsible for taking the children home? If the child sees someone familiar, at that age, they comrehend that that is who they should go to.<br><br>
There has to be a safer way for the school to go about this. Any suggestions? What is your child's schools policy on this matter?<br><br><br><br>
One very important way to prevent your child from going home with an adult whom they shoul dnot is to arrive a few minutes before the children are excused from school.<br><br>
I just don't see how a line on the walk is going to solve this potentially very dangerous issue.<br><br>
Do you think this is something I should bring up at the next PTA meeting? I really think the school is responsible for creating a safe plan for afterschool pick-ups.
 

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At the school I used to work each teacher was responsible for taking each child to the parent/pick-up person. Each student had a list of approved pick-up people (signed by the parents) and if you were not on the list, you could not take that child.<br><br>
There were no buses at this school (private) so we had the parents drive-up and we (teachers) put the children in the car.<br><br>
In my opinion, it is the school's responsibility to know who each child went home with and to make sure they went home with the correct person. If a parent needs to change plans at the last moment, a call should be made to the school office and the teacher informed.<br><br>
Having a teacher hand off each child is the ONLY way to ensure that they went home with the right person!<br><br>
Make your school do it. A yellow line sure isn't going to help!<br><br>
Good luck!<br><br>
Susan
 

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Is this the same school that doesn't 'allow' parents in the school? If so, this a major issue and the 2nd strike. I don't know that I'd allow a third. That is a major safety issue. I would not wait until the next PTA meeting, I would have a meeting with the principal and find out who makes that decision, go to them and get it resolved. If they can't get it resolved, I would try to find another school.<br><br>
I don't have school age kids yet, but my sisters' are 8 and 10 years younger that me. I would sometimes pick them up from school and the teachers didn't let the kids go until they (the teacher) saw the parents- or whoever had permission to pick them up. They would also walk the lines of kids to the busses. This was a Catholic school, but it had just as many kids as the public school and the same amount of teachers, so it wasn't like they had extra help or less kids.<br><br>
I'm sorry you have to go through this.
 

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My hunch is that they let a child go home with a parent that did not have custody or visitation rights. In our whole area, parents have to turn in copies of any custody or visitation court orders. Sometimes this can change overnight if there is a sudden restraining order granted after an abusive incident. So, someone who was o.k. for the kids to go with one day, may not be by court order the next day. It is the parent's responsibility to inform the school.<br><br>
At our school the principal or the school nurse release each child at the bottom of the staircase to the parking lot to the designated parent. They keep track of these court orders, etc. since they have to know every child in the school. They don't let the child go unless they see the right person to pick up.<br><br>
I realize this might not work in a very large school. Our school is a fairly rural school with about 200 kids, most of whom go on the bus.
 

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Yes, this is the same school tha tdoes not like the parents to come in. And yes, I am about this close [ ] to taking my child out of there.<br><br>
First it was the breakfast problem- I took dd to the principle and asked him to find an aid to help her get breakfast- she does not know how to count money and has never bought a meal in a line such as the ones in schools before...then I had a problem with them because they made a mistake and almost had her in remedial classes because they "thought" she was in head start, but she was actually in Montessori, which I had written on the paperwork when I registered her.<br>
Then this situation wihth releasing the children- once I was still up on the hill, but I could see my daughter and she saw me and I saw the teacher tell her that she could go instead of waiting for me to come closer (I was about 2 football fields away from her when she started running to me.)<br>
Now today, dd told me that the teacher made her sit instead of play because she did not bring in her homework. When actually, she did bring in her work, a day earlier, and the teacher sent it back. It had gotten mixed in with her papers to stay at home and I didn't notice.<br>
The teacher acknowledged to me when I called that DD did do her homework and she did see it in the folder, but because she didn't have all the acorns colored in she told dd to bring it to mommy and have it finished for Friday. I explained to her that dd is only 5 years old and is not very clear with instructions- especially relaying them back to mommy. For me it is a guessing game. I told her that I thought making her sit during play time was a harsh punishment and it was not even her fault. I also told her that I felt that play time is a very important part of the learning process and I don't feel that it is beneficial to take that away from a child.<br>
She apologized for the miscommunication and she agreed to write notes if something is not done correctly. I told her that dd is JUST learning how to take responsibilty of things and should not be punished when she makes a mistake- especially being singled out for something that was not her fault.<br>
I think she did get the feeling that I am not satisfied with her response (we make them sit out of playtime for not being responsible for their work).<br><br><br><br>
As for the pick-up problem, it's already Friday. I will have to wait until Monday anyway. But I wil make sure I go right to the office to voice these problems I have and I hope to get some real good answers.<br><br>
Grrrr! I am so sick of this school. ALREADY! Isn't that awful?
 

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lauren,<br><br>
Actually, the children left with an adult whom the children were familiar with but that adult was not responsible for picking up those children. I have yet to hear anything else about it.<br><br>
I know that I don't take chances like that with my precious baby, I will be sure to arrive at least five minutes early every day...and if I can't for some reason, I will call and tell the school to hold her INSIDE until I get there.
 

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Mammabear-<br><br>
Honestly, with all you've just described, I would start looking for a new school now. It would be awful if your dd started hating school b/c of some of these bad things that have happened to her. With the teachers response about sitting out of playtime, it sounds like they have no intent of changing the policy.<br><br>
What a bad situation.
 

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Where we live, there are two Catholic schools- we cannot afford, Montessori School, which means I will have to work full time, put 16 month old DS in daycare, which will total cost- over $900 a month in schooling and DC costs.<br>
There are other districts I could move to, but we live in a very affordable apartment and I know that I wouldn't find anything nearly as nice and in such a nice neighborhood as I have now. Plus, to my knoweledge, I would have to pay tuition to switch her to another distict if we stayed here.<br><br>
From what I understand, this teacher was a 4th grade teacher. I feel that she may be expecting way too much from these Kindergarten students.<br><br>
At this point, I don't knmow what else to do except to be honest with my opinions, try to make this teacher understand that she's being too harsh and expecting too much, and that children learn from guidance, not from sitting out and being singled out.<br><br>
I asked dd some more about school and guess what else she says...They haven't been going outside on the playground because some of the kids were being bad. The last time they were outside was on the first day of school!<br><br>
I just don't think that homeschooling is for us. Also, I don't think that DH would be supportive. He is hoping I will be returning to work soon. So that is not really an option. I feel like I need to get these problems taken care of and that they have no chooice but to at least comprimise with me. If I have to get other parents involved, I will.
 

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Do you think you could start talking with other parents to find out if they are having similar concerns? If there was even a small group of you that met first with the teacher, then with principal or school board if necessary, it would be more powerful (and more supportive to you!) than just you going it alone. What you describe definitely does not sound like good practice for k-garten age, especially not going outside because of kids 'being bad'. Oh dear. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Confused">:<br><br>
K-garten is supposed to be joyful time, play based, to help children like and look forward to school!
 

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Have you checked with the Catholic schools? The school my sisters went to had a sliding scale based on income. Well, actually, they had something called fair share- if you were a member of the church, you met with the priest and told them how much you could afford to pay. Some paid more than the regular tuition, some paid less- it was just what the family felt they could afford- you didn't need to show tax returns or anything. If you weren't a member of the church, the tuition was set, but I do believe there was a little wiggle room and some scholarship type things.<br><br>
I don't think that is too common, but it couldn't hurt to check.
 

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Jessica, I'm haveing some issues with this as well. Last year the teachers walked their classes out and watched each child either get into the car or meet with the correct care provider. This plan seemed to work well. I had car trouble once last year and my sister went to pick them up. They made her show her id and checked the list I had signed in the office before taking the children. They even asked the kids who she was. I was VERY pleased (and so was my sister).<br><br>
However, this year they're just opening he door and letting them run. The principal and a few other administrators are walking about. But, It's not possible for them to know each child and thier care person. We have a little over 400 students and no busses.<br><br>
The principal has a coffee meeting with parents once a month. It's next week and that's on my 'list' to discuss (she must dread me).<br><br>
I think a rational discussion with the principal and the teacher is in order. Tell them of your concerns, make suggestions to fix the problum. Offer to attend a meeting with the teachers if necessary and by ALL means bring it up to the PTA.<br><br>
The public school system has some HUGE holes in it. But, I think by being involved and letting the school know you're there can bring about some positive changes. I've been able to do this at my kids school and it really feels great when you see these changes happening.<br><br>
Good luck, let us know how it goes.
 
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