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Just got back from ER with DS - he cut his finger on scissors. It seemed deep and was bleeding REALLY bad! Doc asked if his vaccines were updated and I said no - I used to vax but have stopped...so he did get DTAP at one point - don't remember when - but was due for a booster at his 4 year check up. He wanted to give him a tetnus shot.<br><br>
I said no thank you and he looked at me all serious and said - "okay - but just so you know there is not one case of a survivor of tetnus." Ah..okay..thanks for that comfort. I've always been secure with my feeling on not vaxing anymore until of course this - it got the wheels turning in my head. Is it really worth it not to give a tetnus and take the chances? He is older now, right?? My aunt was saying of course how I really need to take him in tomorrow to his doc and get a tetnus shot..of all of them that's really important and going around?!? Please help. I'm really stressed. thanks.
 

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Are doctors really this uneducated? Where the scissors covered with dirt and poop? LOL. Don't worry about tetanus, the wound bled so you are fine. Keep the wound clean to prevent infection.
 

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Relax... your son probably does not need a tetanus shot.<br><br>
Tetanus has never been a common disease even before the vaccine existed. In fact, they aren't really even sure how well the vaccine works because it was so uncommon. It is even MORE uncommon in children. And, the doctor who told you about a 100% mortality rate was telling you a big fat lie. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"> It is a terrible disease but people can and have survived it.<br><br>
Tetanus is a bacteria that is all around us - in the soil, etc. and is only a danger in a wound that can not get oxygen to it (like a deep puncture wound.)<br><br>
If the doctor was TRULY, TRULY worried about tetanus, he wouldn't have offered a tetanus shot but immunoglobulin. The tetanus shot doesn't realy work that well in preventing tetanus after an injury (it could conceivably boost immunity in a vaccinated individual but is probably useless to give it to try and prevent tetanus after an injury in an unvaccinated individual.)<br><br>
Someone correct me if I've gotten the facts mixed up. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Thank you! More info please!!<br><br>
**Also...this is the first I'm reading about tetnus not being able to survive if the wound is bleeding? Can anyone lead me to some info about this?...and if this is true...why on earth would doctors recommend it with bleeding wounds??
 

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The tetanus shot would not protect him from this wound. If the doctor would have really been concerned he would have said your son needs the immunoglobolin shot. But he did not say that and so there is no chance of this wound causing tetanus.<br><br>
Besides, it bled. I would not be concerned.
 

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ugh, the misinformation that doctors can spew is staggering.<br><br>
as a pp mentioned, if you child was truly at risk for developing tetanus (and personally i would not consider your child's situation a risky one), the vaccine would do little if nothing to prevent tetanus. the indicated course of treatment would be the tetanus immunoglobulin (tig).<br><br>
cuddle your ds, keep that wound nice and clean, and make yourself a nice steaming cup of chamomile tea...it's very soothing.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Thank you! More info please!!<br><br>
**Also...this is the first I'm reading about tetanus not being able to survive if the wound is bleeding? Can anyone lead me to some info about this?...and if this is true...why on earth would doctors recommend it with bleeding wounds??</div>
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Tetanus can only grow in an anaerobic location. No oxygen. Blood and air are oxygen.<br><br>
Why would he recommend it? Because doctors are on autopilot. They do not think for themselves.
 

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Tetanus cannot reproduce and put out toxins if there is oxygen present, bleeding will generally clean out a wound somewhat, so even if there was tetanus bacteria present at first, it's likely that it was washed out, so to speak.<br>
The only time you need to worry about tetanus is when the wound can't get oxygen. Plus that doctor was so incredibly full of crap it's not even funny. I was looking disease rates up the other day, and, something I found interesting was that for several of the past years (I didn't look very far back) not one child under the age of 10 has come down with tetanus.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> Something in the air today. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> We had to go in today too and I was freaked out. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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The vax wouldn't have helped anyway - takes 2-3 weeks for immunity to confer.<br><br>
I googled "Tetanus Survivor" - while this is NOT the best example, this dude did have Tetanus and lived: <a href="http://www.health.wa.gov.au/healthv/autumn97/tet2.html" target="_blank">http://www.health.wa.gov.au/healthv/autumn97/tet2.html</a>
 

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Oh, that really isn't a good example. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="innocent"> You're freaking me out now. This is going to be a long month. I am so sorry to bring my fears to this thread.
 

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There have definatly been survivors of tetinus. Maybe not in the old days but in current times some do survive.<br><br>
Like pp's have said the tetnus shot wouldnt help after the fact anyway only the immunoglobulan sp* will.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I said no thank you and he looked at me all serious and said - "okay - but just so you know there is not one case of a survivor of tetnus."</div>
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K, someone just posted today that their grandma had it years ago and survived<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">.
 

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Yeah, my first thought was that there are plenty of Tetanus survivors. Is it something nice to have? NO way! But it's not always deadly by any means.<br><br>
And ditto the others on the other things. A Tetnus shot wouldn't do a thing for your son right now, he'd need the TIG stuff.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">K, someone just posted today that their grandma had it years ago and survived<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">.</div>
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that was me! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="innocent"><br>
and it was definitely tetanus!
 

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Vaccinating with our family medical history scares me as much or maybe more than tetanus. Especially knowing what potential side effects are linked to the tetanus vax.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">These kinds of injuries happen all the time with kids that age. Why don't you get the dtp if it scares you that much?</div>
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the dtp scares me more than tetanus at this point. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"><br><br>
I think our chances of getting cancer are probably higher than contracting tetanus,yk? (perspective)
 

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thanks everyone! Does anyone have a link to info regarding tetnus not being able to survive if there is bleeding?? my family is not buying this one..I'd like to show them some proof. thanks!!
 
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