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I have a 1 y.o. and DH and I have been going to naturopaths and homeopaths for the last ten years. But now that we're meeting other new families, suddenly we're in a world of people talking about antibiotics and automatic vaccination, people who are startled to learn that peanut butter can be purchased without sugar, people who stop breastmilk at age one because cows' milk is now allowed. All these things bewilder me.<br><br>
Is there anyone else in Seattle with young children who knows what I mean? Are there groups I can join? I'd offer to start something, but I'm a little overwhelmed right now with the 1 y.o. I'm looking for other people whose world outlook sees naturopathy as the primary means to health.
 

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Well I think Seattle is a pretty Earth friendly area so you shouldn't have a problem <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/treehugger.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Treehugger">:
 

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Well, I'm not in Seattle, I'm farther south near Tacoma, but I have a pretty decent circle of friends down here that "might" be crunchy enough for you, lol. I met my first home birther at work about 9 years ago, and she introduced me to her home birther friend, and the cirlce just slowly got wider and wider. I am on a mainstream group on MSN called Pacific Northwest Parents. There are a few crunchies on there, and we now hang out and have introduced each other to other friends.<br>
Mainly you just have to find one or two like minded people, and we are all in different stages, some crunchier than others. Once you find them, your circle will expand.<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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It's funny; I went to a playgroup the other day and most of the mamas there were like you describe. They were startled I was declining some vaccinations and delaying the rest, didn't understand cloth diapering, and were surprised I am hoping to breastfeed indefinitely. They were downright shocked that we choose not to have a car.<br><br>
The good news is that this is not the norm!! I was surprised that these moms felt that way; most of the families we meet while out and about are the total opposite. DH was shocked, too. He said, "I thought this was Seattle, where everyone is crunchy like us!"<br><br>
So have hope...there are lots and lots of crunchy families around in Seattle! We meet them at parks, on the bus, at coffee shops, in the grocery store -- all of the places we go every day.<br><br>
I don't have the time to start anything, either, but I, too, would be interested in attending if someone set up a playgroup or meeting.
 

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i am a member of the seattle chapter of API and i go to playgroups they host. everyone i have met is pretty crunchy there. also, the seattle am la leche league is definitely to my liking. i can't really speak for vax though, we don't do them at all and i don't normally tell people that!<br>
some mamas on mdc have also met up and i met some great people that way. obviously we are all pretty like minded!
 

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I'm going to be the party pooper here, but I just feel like I should say this:<br><br>
Possibly if more "crunchy" folk would start hangin out with the "non crunchy/mainstream crappy parenting folk" there would BE more crunchy folks???<br><br>
It's like everyone wants this perfect world all the while people are trying to set up their own clicks according to preference. Believe it or not there are lots of parents who are totally non crunchy who have never seen the other side. Never had an example of breastfeeding, never heard of cloth diapering since great grammas horrible plastic pants stories.....<br><br>
I have friends from all walks of life. I like it that way. I wouldn't deliberately befriend someone who I thought was a horrible parent, but I also like to think people cannot be great without some kind of example.<br><br>
I NEVER would have thought I'd nurse a babe for over 2 years or cloth dipaer part time, or eat natural foods etc. My mom was more "maintstream" than people here would think. Like some packaged foods... parenting wise she was so attached to us it's not funny. we still are best friends and she is almost like an equal mom to my kids <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
I'm going to stop rambling. But if you come across a nice person try to make a friendship and set an example instead of judge. There IS a such thing as somewhere in the middle.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">i am a member of the seattle chapter of API and i go to playgroups they host. everyone i have met is pretty crunchy there. also, the seattle am la leche league is definitely to my liking. i can't really speak for vax though, we don't do them at all and i don't normally tell people that!<br>
some mamas on mdc have also met up and i met some great people that way. obviously we are all pretty like minded!</div>
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I'm also a Seattle APIer! It's made a world of difference. I should probably get myself to an LLL meeting sometime soon, too.<br><br>
I agree that it's great to have friends from all walks of life, but it's also good to have a safe haven made up of like-minded people that you feel comfortable with. I don't know what I would do without the sanctuary I get from my "crunchy" online/offline mama groups!
 

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I have the same need and desire!<br><br>
I investigated, as that seems to be a fitting way to describe it, two of the meetup (the organization) groups but neither were in Seattle, one was Snohomish county and the other is eastside. I would love there to be one in Seattle because I am wishing to get some relationships with crunchy mamas more local to me. I've thought about going to API but haven't been to any of the meetings yet. The La Leche Legue/API conference is this weekend. They've got sessions going tomorrow. Here's a link: <a href="http://www.lllwaconf.org/mambo/index.php" target="_blank">http://www.lllwaconf.org/mambo/index.php</a><br><br>
It honestly seems like the way to get in touch with crunchy parents, and parent/playgroups is through organizations that start prebirth like Great Starts childbirth education classes and then their playgrouns, PEPS and Listening Mothers. But from what I've observed, most parents grow into the crunchy lifestyle and don't realize that's what they are in the very beginning. And in those groups, you are going to have a mix of mainstream and crunchy.<br><br>
To the OP, have you found a naturopath in Seattle that you like?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'm going to be the party pooper here, but I just feel like I should say this:<br><br>
Possibly if more "crunchy" folk would start hangin out with the "non crunchy/mainstream crappy parenting folk" there would BE more crunchy folks???<br><br>
It's like everyone wants this perfect world all the while people are trying to set up their own clicks according to preference. Believe it or not there are lots of parents who are totally non crunchy who have never seen the other side. Never had an example of breastfeeding, never heard of cloth diapering since great grammas horrible plastic pants stories.....<br><br>
I have friends from all walks of life. I like it that way. I wouldn't deliberately befriend someone who I thought was a horrible parent, but I also like to think people cannot be great without some kind of example.<br><br>
I NEVER would have thought I'd nurse a babe for over 2 years or cloth dipaer part time, or eat natural foods etc. My mom was more "maintstream" than people here would think. Like some packaged foods... parenting wise she was so attached to us it's not funny. we still are best friends and she is almost like an equal mom to my kids <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
I'm going to stop rambling. But if you come across a nice person try to make a friendship and set an example instead of judge. There IS a such thing as somewhere in the middle.</div>
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I was thinking about this on my walk yesterday. I used to have that drive; I found it tiring and not too rewarding. I confess, I like having common ground in my friendships. I suspect AP matters won't matter to me as much later in life, but right now they're a cornerstone. And I need to choose my mama friendships based on having <i>some</i> overlap there.
 

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Well the only place I've ever been shut and out judged by are suposedly AP people. I'm about as attached as a person could possibly be to my kids, but I guess I'm jsut not "crunchy" enough to qualify as the worthy of most people's personal friendship around here.<br><br>
It is not a drive at all. I actually don't want to be friends with people who don't share my same parenting values. It's funny because I LOVE Seattle area, but north where I live I have come across some of the most unaccepting people around! I have a couple friends who definately are not what you'd consider "crunchy" but they are really good and attached mothers. Probably feed their kids more junk than I'd care to see but I'll quit now <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment">
 

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Hi there,<br><br>
I came across this thread when I was going to start one of my own on finding a pediatrician for my DD. We had a great Dr. in Portland and are hoping to find one as equally wonderful. Our insurance won't cover a naturopath, but I'm hoping someone can direct me to a Pediatrician that is at least sympathetic to delayed/selective vaccinations. Does anyone have any recommendations? Especially if they're on the Eastside (Bellevue/Kirkland) area?<br><br>
BTW, I can sympathize. I'm also hoping to find a group of moms with similar values to share ideas with. I'd hoped to join a Waldorf playgroup, but I don't know that it will fit with our schedule. That may be a good resource for you though? Have you tried the Seattle Waldorf school?<br><br>
Cheers!
 

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Just to clarify my original post, I really am looking specifically for ways to meet other parents who use naturopathy--they go to naturopaths or homeopaths or do their own health care. I have met truly wonderful people through Great Starts and PEPS (and coffee shops, and friends of friends) and meet regularly with them, but sometimes it's like we're speaking two different languages.<br><br>
I was hoping there was a ready-made club like "Seattle Naturopathic Families" (I made that up) where people could hang out and talk about how to treat ear infections or whatever, but it sounds like there isn't. Maybe I'll lurk near the Boiron display at PCC and try to strike up conversations. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue"><br><br>
What is API?<br><br>
Oh, and yes, I do have great naturopaths and homeopaths for every member of my family!
 

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You might try to connect with families that are either students, teachers, or in other ways involved with Bastyr. If you are looking for something more specific, which it sounds like you are.<br><br><a href="http://www.bastyr.edu/" target="_blank">http://www.bastyr.edu/</a>
 

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I came across this thread when I was going to start one of my own on finding a pediatrician for my DD. We had a great Dr. in Portland and are hoping to find one as equally wonderful. Our insurance won't cover a naturopath, but I'm hoping someone can direct me to a Pediatrician that is at least sympathetic to delayed/selective vaccinations. Does anyone have any recommendations? Especially if they're on the Eastside (Bellevue/Kirkland) area?<br></div>
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We have a family practice doc we like in Seattle. He is an MD but also has a certificate in holistic medicine. We talked to him about selctive/delayed vax and he was totally open. Our whole family sees him. His name is Dr. Grote and he's at Fremont Family Practice
 

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I was going to suggest Bastyr as well. I'm not sure how you could specifically meet up with other parents there... maybe just posting on bulletin boards around the school. Otherwise you might go to an API meeting and ask around. API is Attachment Parenting International (you can easily Google it) and there is a very large, active group in Seattle. They meet in the Greenwood area I think, and they have an email listserve that you can join and they send out info for meetings and things.
 

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You could try your local La Leche League. Also, some naturopaths are just as pro-vax as MDs, or more so, so it really depends on the individual. I recently saw one who tried to talk me into shots for my 5 yo, and it really put me off. Told me scare stories about how dangerous tetanus is, and also minimized my concerns. Ugh.<br>
Oh, and yeah, I've definitely been excluded by non-AP families for my choices, particularly extended bfing, gentle discipline, and co-sleeping. I've also felt pretty snubbed by some some-what middle of the road pro-bfing moms who I think were judging me on my previous states of residence (Calif. and TN), but I can't be sure. I've had all kinds of moms blow me off, but I think it may just be that I'm a bit of a downer at times and some people don't have much patience for that.
 
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