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DD went to the ped yesterday for a checkup--she's 17 weeks (4 months). He asked me how long she nurses on each side. I told him I have no idea, I don't time her...then explained my oversupply issues, that I block feed, how she generally can't even finish one side, how switching mid-feed generally gets her too much foremilk, etc. He told me I should switch her because staying on one boob for a feed makes her work too hard to get the hindmilk. Okay, he's the doctor. So I tried it last night. Major green poo, unhappy baby. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"> But she's gaining weight and staying steady on the curve....<br><br>
He also told me I should start introducing rice cereal and baby food. I don't want to. My baby's not interested. My mom is pushing the same thing. She says I have to start feeding her with a spoon so that she'll learn to stop pushing everything out of her mouth. But I thought that was a reflex...?<br><br>
My plan is to continue to BF as long as its mutually desired, and introduce solids when she seems interested. Don't get me wrong, I give her "tastes" of things, but she just doesn't want it yet. How can I be assured I'm doing the right thing when everyone around me is telling me I'm wrong? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> Thanks for listening.
 

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The good news is that you are exactly right. I'm sure your Doc is a lovely person but he doesn't know much about breastfeeding.<br><br>
I have yet to figure out why giving solids early is so important to people.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">DD went to the ped yesterday for a checkup--she's 17 weeks (4 months). He asked me how long she nurses on each side. I told him I have no idea, I don't time her...then explained my oversupply issues, that I block feed, how she generally can't even finish one side, how switching mid-feed generally gets her too much foremilk, etc. He told me I should switch her because staying on one boob for a feed makes her work too hard to get the hindmilk. Okay, he's the doctor. So I tried it last night. Major green poo, unhappy baby. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"> But she's gaining weight and staying steady on the curve....<br><br>
He also told me I should start introducing rice cereal and baby food. I don't want to. My baby's not interested. My mom is pushing the same thing. She says I have to start feeding her with a spoon so that she'll learn to stop pushing everything out of her mouth. But I thought that was a reflex...?<br><br>
My plan is to continue to BF as long as its mutually desired, and introduce solids when she seems interested. Don't get me wrong, I give her "tastes" of things, but she just doesn't want it yet. How can I be assured I'm doing the right thing when everyone around me is telling me I'm wrong? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> Thanks for listening.</div>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> mama. It sounds like you're doing an amazing job, trusting your instincts and observing your child and acting accordingly!<br><br>
Back when DD was itty bitty, I also would not have been able to tell a doctor how long I was nursing her for. I fed her when she wanted to eat. I also had oversupply issues which resolved after starting to block feed, but once my supply regulated (around 6 months, iirc), I no longer had to pay attention to that as well. So look forward to that in a few weeks! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br><br>
As for intro to solids, your doctor is blatantly wrong, and giving advice that is totally against the tenets of his own professional organization. Why give a child rice cereal, which is nutritionally inferior to breastmilk? DD never got any rice cereal at all. We did delayed solids and definitely delayed grains/cereals. She started "tasting" things at 7 months (only fresh fruit or lightly steamed veggies). She didn't start really "eating" until 14-15 months, and still she was getting 95% of her calories from breastmilk. She is 3.5 now, still nursing but she eats a ton, and she eats everything under the sun.<br><br>
Continue to trust your instincts and continue to cultivate your self-confidence that you are doing the right thing for your baby, because you are doing great!! You look at your baby instead of looking at the clock, you are observing her and acting accordingly when you see things change (like the green frothy poo). It is challenging to stay the course and buck the trend when you have so-called "experts" telling you differently, but remember that in the end, you are the true expert in your own child.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> and best of luck to you!
 

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My son is 5 months and doesn't even get tastes of food. He's not ready, so I'm not pushing him. It sounds like your DD isn't ready either, so not pushing is definitely the way to go!<br><br>
Also, I have no idea how often my son eats, but I know that he nurses on each side for about 5 minutes if that b/c he gets SO super distracted that he can't really finish a meal. So, I wish he would nurse longer, but the world is just so interesting right now that he can't. So, he nurses much more frequently, and as a result we too block feed to make sure he's getting enough hindmilk.
 

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I agree with PPs - trust your instincts. Reading all about switching boobs and how long to feed my ds and so forth was just way too much info for me as a new mom. Now we've got out little system down, which pretty much amounts to alternate boobs each feeding. In fact, when I know he's hungry, I just feel my boobs to figure out which one's fuller and that's the one he gets. It works for us, but I haven't had oversupply issues. And his poops are perfect.
 

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If your baby is gaining weight and staying steady on her curve...why mess with it? You're doing great..obviously. Tsk, why do people feel the need to find stuff to "fix". Really, his only comment about that should have been "Looks like you have it under control! Wow, I wish all my patients were this easy"<br>
As for your mother, well, send her to kellymom.com and tell her to do her own research before bugging you about solids. Tongue thrust is a reflex, and not one to be ignored.<br>
You know what you're doing, and it shows on your baby. Why do people insist on offering solutions when there is no problem?
 

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Keep doing what you're doing Mama! Unless your pedi -or even your mom for that matter- have IBCLC at the end of their name I wouldn't bother taking BFing advice from them <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue">
 

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At our four month appointment, my doctor breathed a sigh of relief when we told her that we hadn't started solids yet and didn't intend to until six months, at least. She said she really encourages parents to wait until six months, but so many people succomb to outside pressures around three or four months. Our doctor also reminded us that even though we could start feeding solids at six months (or whenever baby is ready), to keep in mind that "before about one, food is for fun." She said breastmilk should always be the main source of nutrients during the first year.<br><br>
My mil is also big on starting to feed dd solids asap. I think it is because she likes to feel involved, and she's ready to take part in feeding the baby. She always says that she "just wants to be able to help me out," but the truth is that she wants to be able to build a closer relationship to her granddaughter, who she loves dearly. And there's nothing wrong with that! But she just has to be patient, because I am in no hurry to give up nursing... I'm the mama and I will have to let dd go a little bit more every day once she's older, so I can have this special time all to myself if I so choose.
 

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Yup to what the other posters have said - it sounds like you are doing great! And it sounds lke your doc knows very very little about breastfeeding. All medical associations now say to wait until 6 months to give solids, and there is good evidence to back that up. Your doc is behind the times. But fortunately for your baby, you have great mama instincts! Keep it up, Mama! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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You're doing great. I have some pretty vivid memories of our issues with oversupply, and seriously, better the baby "work" for hindmilk than never get near it. Block feeding can take time to have an impact, but for some cases of oversupply, it's the only thing that does.<br><br>
The tongue thrust thing is a reflex. Four months strikes me as too early for solids, and have you checked the nutrition labels on that stuff? It has to be just for fun, because it's basically empty vitamins. And sometimes it's only trace amounts of those.<br><br>
You need to find yourself some tribe, mama. People who parent more or less the way you do, who have been down that road and know what you can generally expect to find there. Ideally, local to you. "Playdates" for kids as young as yours are really dates for mamas - check the tribal areas forum maybe, and see if you can set some up?
 

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Thanks for the support. I do need a tribe--unfortunately where I am now there are not a lot of options. We're moving next month and that should create more opportunities! I guess I just need to be confident in my own ability to be a parent and not worry about everyone else. I need to remember my mother's parenting info is 30 years old, too...
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I agree with PPs - trust your instincts. Reading all about switching boobs and how long to feed my ds and so forth was just way too much info for me as a new mom. Now we've got out little system down, which pretty much amounts to alternate boobs each feeding. In fact, when I know he's hungry, I just feel my boobs to figure out which one's fuller and that's the one he gets. It works for us, but I haven't had oversupply issues. And his poops are perfect.</div>
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besides, when you add in solids the poop changes. it's more your classic stinky diaper. really, no rush.
 

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Sounds to me like you are being sensible. The doctors recommendation was clearly not useful, no big surprise there. (I don't know when I became so cynical.)<br><br>
And as long as your baby has the tongue thrust reflex, he can't eat food. Giving more food won't help, it will go on it's own, likely pretty soon.
 

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Just seconding what every other poster has said - you are doing wonderfully mama! & your paed is full of doo-doo. MILs come from a generation when they introduced solids VERY young but we know better now & you just need to be gentle but firm with her.<br><br>
You are doing great! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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Agreed, everyone pretty much sumed it up, you are on the right track<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"> DD is 5 months and is not going to get any solids until she can sit up on her own and feed herself.<br><br>
When people give me advice, even doctors, I pretend I'm listening, tell them thank you and ignore the advice!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> Unless of course they *actually* know what they are talking about<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue">
 

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Sounds like you are doing great on your own. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"> I still have no idea how long Lucy nurses on each side. I just never really pay attention. At four months my ped. told me to please wait until six months to introduce solids. Lucy is 7 months and just plays with food, she still really isn't eating.
 

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in order to make sure DD got hindmilk, my doc told me to feed her on one side till she was full then the next time start with the same side. then twicew on the next etc.<br><br>
i always just let her go till she was done then next time gave her the one that felt fullest till she was done.<br><br>
anyway, my point was that, you are doing fine. dont let people pressure you into doing something that you dont ferel is right.
 
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