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I have received a second hand pump - a small electric Medela. the literature enclosed says NEVER use a second hand pump, even with all new plastic parts. Is this true, or propaganda? I expect to be pumping on an extremely limited basis in another week or two -
 

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I personally would never use a second hand pump. All of the info in the medical books, breastfeeding books, lactation consultants and LLL says not to. Hospital grade pumps are closed systems. Regular pumps are not. Even if you replace the tubing etc. the motor is still exposed. the risk they say is that if the previous user had hiv or hepatitis for example there is a risk the virus could get into the motor from the milk or any blood. then it could contaminate the next users milk and expose the baby to the virus. There has been no documented cases of this happening but that is the risk they talk abaout. So for me I would not feel comfortable doing that but I know people that have and that is their decision. Could you just hand express if you had to?
 

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<a href="http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/pumps.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/pumps.shtml</a><br><br>
This is one link that talks about used pumps etc.
 

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I bought a second hand Medela pump in style 3 years ago and have used it to pump daily for two babies now. At the time I purchased it, I had no idea that they suggest not using them second-hand (I got mine at a very nice consignment store and it was in pristine condition with many replacement parts and all the instruction booklets etc.) Of course, I sterilized everything before I used it and wiped down inside the plastic shield over the motor area.<br><br>
Had I known then what I know now (do a search here on MDC and you'll find many more posts about it) would I have still purchased and used a second-hand pump? I'm not sure. Part of me thinks it is primarily a misleading caution on the part of pump manufacturers and lactation industry as a means of preventing sharing pumps and thereby not selling as many of them. Another part of me feels that the cautions are credible and there may be something there to be concerned about. However, it would certainly be a rare situation indeed if there were to be a problem.<br><br>
All that said, my babies are healthy, happy and growing (3 years old and 16 months old), so it wasn't too bad. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I personally would use a second hand pump. How long can the "germs" survive outside of a hospitable environment? I mean, could they really survive for 6 months on a piece of metal. Or...what if you "pumped" through some rubbing alcohol first or something. I think its propaganda myself.
 

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I do know the person who the pump came from - she is a friend of a friend - and she has no diseases. The pump has not been used in a year or more.<br><br>
I am tempted to use it, and have been intending to - until I read the Medela insert -<br><br>
More advice welcome.
 

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Woops, I got mine second hand <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/bag.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Bag">:
 

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I got mine second hand. It's only a hand pump and it comes all apart to cleaa=n. So I sterilized it and used it with DD. I had no idea that I shouldn't be doing that.
 

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I got y pump secondhand from a friend of a friend who I know quite well and feel comfortable using it because I know them both (although only one of them used it). Had I not known the person who used it previously I would have been more hesitant.
 

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I've gotten a few second hand and wouldn't do it any differently. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Since you know the previous owner, I would just consider buying new parts.....should be fine <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I believe I will use it. However, now I understand it's best to wait six weeks rather than two. I'm not engorged or anything at this point - so, I do have new parts for it, and we will alcohol it thoroughly, but I think I feel pretty safe about it, especially considering how many of you mamas have used pumps second hand without incident. I appreciate the FDA's concern.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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what do you mean about waiting 6 weeks instead of 2? to start pumping? Just curious...I started at about 3 or 4 weeks....
 

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I used a second-hand pump, and honestly don't see any way how it could be a hazard.<br>
I removed and boiled all parts that get anywhere near the milk (tubing, etc) and dried them fully before reassembling and using the pump.<br><br>
I keep hearing that milk can get in the motor and not be sterilized...so?<br>
I want to know:<br>
1. how many little vaporized HIV particles are going to get in that motor. I mean, when I pump I am not exactly sitting in a cloud of breastmilk fog or anything.<br>
2. how those little HIV particles are going to survive several months with no moisture source.<br>
3. how the HIV particles (assuming they're still alive) can possibly get back OUT of the motor, through a membrane, through 3 feet of tubing, and into the breastmilk. It is not like the milk circulates through the motor. Everything it touches is removable and boilable.<br><br>
I think even if you TRIED to contaminate milk via a pump it would be hard...first, you would have mom A squirt milk all over into the motor. Then, clean the removable parts like any normal person would do with a used pump. Then, mom B comes along, squirts more milk in the motor, and (trying to preserve the liquid gold) turns the pump sideways and shakes the motor out into a bottle which she feeds her baby. That is the ONLY way I could think of to do it, and it still probably wouldn't work.<br><br>
I seriously do not buy that you can get HIV or other diseases from a breastpump any more than you could get them from licking a fork that an infected person licked 3 months ago. I think they say you shouldn't use secondhand pumps as a CYA thing.<br>
But then I am not a person who gets all freaked out about germs anyhow. I do not use the little paper toilet thingys, I do not open the bathroom door using a paper towel, etc. I do not lysol and bleach my whole house, and for the most part I am not scared of bacteria and viruses.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I seriously do not buy that you can get HIV or other diseases from a breastpump any more than you could get them from licking a fork that an infected person licked 3 months ago. I think they say you shouldn't use secondhand pumps as a CYA thing.<br>
But then I am not a person who gets all freaked out about germs anyhow. I do not use the little paper toilet thingys, I do not open the bathroom door using a paper towel, etc. I do not lysol and bleach my whole house, and for the most part I am not scared of bacteria and viruses.</div>
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We are on the same page!!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
As for six weeks, that's the latest bit o info I just read - I'm going to be pretty flexible there too, I predict...
 
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