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I would give anything for a great alternative ped!<br><br>
Took my son, Jahmari (4 months old this Saturday past) , to the clinic today for his 4 months checkup. I was nervous because My husband and I had decided not to vax him and I was not looking forward to the reaction from the clinic. They did not even notice that he was due for shots and didn't say anything about it. He had a shot at 2 months but after that I finally had time to research and decided no vax for us.<br><br>
I took him to get him weighed and because he has had a stuffy nose for a week. They listened to his chest and said he was congested there. The doctor said he wanted to put him on the nebulizer for 10-15 mins to help clear it out. It is just a saline solution that they mist over their mouth and nose so I said ok to that. He started to write a script for an antihistamine. I told him I do not give my child anything that he must explain it to me, what it is and what it does and if he will get better without it than we are all set to go without. He didn't even bother to explain what it was and what it does he just said, yes he will get better without it. Fine, I felt good about that.<br><br>
Here is the part that made me long for a good ped and especially for having an LLL in my country: The nurse that was doing the nebulizer was trying to talk to me while I was trying to sing softly and calm Jahmari who was hating the nebulizer. She wanted to know when he had eaten last, 'just a little in the waiting room', 'that's it for the morning?!' she says in a tone that I did not appreciate. I just looked at her like she was crazy and said 'Noo' (it was 10am!) Then she asks if the doctor talked to me about the position that I nurse him in, I said that he had not. She said I must nurse him in an upright position, I told him he always nurses laying down (he is a side-lying nurser almost exclusively). She said the reason he is sick is because I nurse him laying down and the milk drips into his ears (um his ears are fine) and down into their lungs. I just said 'oh, ok, thanks'<br><br>
Please tell me she is misinformed, it seems absolutely bizarre to me. Especially after the doctor just got done telling me that his immune system was not yet developed, around 6 months he said that he starts to develop it (even more reason not to vax so soon, right?) So wouldn't his cold be from his aunt who had it first and not from the position i nurse him in?<br><br>
Sorry this is so bloggy. I am in my husband's country and don't have any friends on this island. The internet is my only connection to alternative type ideas. I don't even have any friends who are breastfeeding, the women who were pg the same time as me are all doing formula. My husband is my greatest support for the breastfeeding. He is from here but is a rastafarian and is very open-minded. He reads the things online that I send him.
 

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she is crazy, and misinformed.<br><br>
and breastmilk is sterile and would cause no harm in his ears... and there are anatomical things in place that keep milk out of the lungs... crazy doctor office woman...
 

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"She said the reason he is sick is because I nurse him laying down and the milk drips into his ears (um his ears are fine) and down into their lungs. I just said 'oh, ok, thanks'"<br><br>
As far as I am aware the ears and lungs are not connected <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"><br><br>
Kacey for many many months nursed side lying almost exclusively and she's just fine <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"> Ignore that psychotic woman <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">she is crazy, and misinformed.<br><br>
and breastmilk is sterile and would cause no harm in his ears...</div>
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Yep, in fact, I've heard that a couple drops of breastmilk are good for healing ear infections<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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She's thinking of bottle fed babies. They need to be fed on an incline because the formula goes into their ears.<br><br>
1. Not an issue with breastmilk, it's actually good for ears.<br><br>
2. Babies are naturally on an incline when they BF.<br><br>
3. Ears are not connected to lungs.<br><br>
How can she be a nurse and not know this?!
 

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I agree with what other pp have said...if you need more back-up check out <a href="http://www.llli.org" target="_blank">www.llli.org</a> (La Leche League). Unfortunately, the medical community needs to study up on breastfeeding still.
 

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All my babes slept with me and nursed on their side all night for a year or more. Never had a problem. I think she was passing on some misunderstanding of her own.<br>
Three cheers for nursing with so little support!!
 

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Mammals are SUPPOSED to nurse laying down. Have you ever seen a mama cat walking around with their kittens hanging off?!<br><br>
What an idiot!!
 

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haha
 

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RasJi7;11606127 They listened to his chest and said he was congested there. The doctor said he wanted to put him on the nebulizer for 10-15 mins to help clear it out. It is just a saline solution that they mist over their mouth and nose so I said ok to that.[/QUOTE said:
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The nurse is an idiot.<br><br>
That aside, I haven't heard of using just plain saline in a nebulizer, we always have to use albuterol.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Yep, in fact, I've heard that a couple drops of breastmilk are good for healing ear infections<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"></div>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/yeahthat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="yeah that">:<br><br>
The nurse is an idiot. Maybe we had the same one -- did she also tell you that the orangy pee I found in my newborn's diaper was a good thing and is the "jaundice leaving his body"? When in actuality (I found out later from my LC) that it was "brickdust" and had nothing to do with jandice being pee'd out, or whatever she was trying to tell me. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"> We love to nurse laying down- DS's latch is much better when he's relaxed on the bed
 

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Thanks Mommas! I hate when that happens and I am in such shock that I can't say anything like, "Stop spreading bad breastfeeding advice!"<br><br>
I am wondering if I should go back and say something to her so she doesn't tell anyone else such nonsense. Like I have time for this- it's just that the bad bf advice bothers me so much. My dream is to start a LLL down here. I am not legally allowed to do any work paid or unpaid at this point and am waiting for my work exemption to go through- at that point I will look into it further. ANy leads on that would be much appreciated!<br><br>
April422- Do you think they lied to me about it being just saline? I will not let that slide- that is so wrong! We are in the British Virgin Islands and things are very different here from the US, also the doctor is from Nigeria if that makes a difference in your opinion. Afterwards she told me he would be very hungry and sleepy. I wondered why that was and thought maybe it was just from the extra oxygen??? Thanks for your opinion.
 

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my nearly 4 y/o always nurses lying down and is fine how weird she actually thinks that....
 

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I guess all of us co-sleeping breastfeeders have sickly babies... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"> My kids are perfectly healthy and do that, thankyouverymuch...
 

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The milk goes in their ears, huh. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/ROTFLMAO.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rotflmao">:<br><br>
Well, that sure is good to know, since I nursed my son lying down EVERY TIME unless we were away from home. Bed is comfy!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Yep, in fact, I've heard that a couple drops of breastmilk are good for healing ear infections<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"></div>
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oh yeah, I've definitely had mamas tell me it works wonders for an ear infection. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
I think you handled it well with the "ok ok thanks."<br><br>
It is incredibly depressing to hear some of the things people say about breastfeeding. I'm so looking forward to being able to bf my 1st this winter! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy">:
 

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i definitely don't think breastmilk or bf position causes ear infections, but had to repsond to a pp that breastmilk is not sterile as it contains bacteria such as probiotics, which is a good thing. yea, it can help clear up infections as it also has antibodies, but it's not sterile.
 
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