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Another glorified CIO book makes it to mainstream TV. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br><br>
My milk leaks everytime they show that poor baby in his crib SCREAMING for his mother.<br><br>
The book is called "The Sleep Easy Solution". They basically said that in the first year kids need 15 hours a sleep, otherwise they won't "develop correctly". My ass. My daughter sleeps about 10 hours a night, and has a 1 hour nap during the day and she walked at 10 months.. so I doubt her development was hindered because I didn't <b>force</b> herself to cry herself to sleep at night.<br><br>
OMG I'm mad.
 

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Oh I hear you!!! I was just coming to post about this.<br><br>
Who knows who we can write/email about this??<br><br><br>
I think it's so horrible to see "Let your kids cry" flash across the screen when talking about sleep. SOOOOOOOOOO many people will get the wrong message.....<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br>
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Dang it, I missed it. I hate the fact that they were promoting CIO on national TV!
 

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I hate stuff like that...makes me want to cry.<br><br>
Goodness forbid we PARENT our children 24 hours a day. Not just between the hours of 7am and 8pm. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rolleyes">:
 

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The worst part for me was that they filmed the child for a long time screaming and crying in his crib and then ran the footage in fast forward to show how he moved around the crib screaming. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">:
 

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What? How on earth does showing a kid thrashing around screaming promote CIO???? If anything you'd think they'd want better PR than that, you know?<br><br>
I hate, hate, hate, that whole guilt trip that if you don't force your kids into the pattern of sleep some expert has decided is optimal that they're going to grow up into a sleep deprived criminal. I was so stressed with my first trying to get her to take "real" naps and get enough hours of sleep in a day. So worthless. They'll sleep as much as they're going to sleep and there ain't much you can do about that!!
 

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Amen. The whole sleep training thing seems totally and utterly pointless anyway. At least in the first 2-3 years of life. Unless you plan on ignoring your child every time they get sick or cut a tooth, NOTHING will stay the same during the first few years. Why waste your time trying to create or prevent something you have absolutely NO control over?<br><br>
And furthermore, don't these "experts" realize that babies are biologically programed to cry out for a caregiver? It's a survival INSTINCT! I HIGHLY doubt the human race would exist if every baby ever born was placed at the back of the cave and left to fend for themselves until morning. So just because we now have houses and baby monitors we <i>must</i> ignore the instincts our children are born with, which is to <i>actually</i> be close to their parents, not just during the day, but *gasp* at night as well? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/soapbox.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="soapbox">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">The worst part for me was that they filmed the child for a long time screaming and crying in his crib and then ran the footage in fast forward to show how he moved around the crib screaming. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">:</div>
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OMG. I'm really glad I didn't see it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">The worst part for me was that they filmed the child for a long time screaming and crying in his crib and then ran the footage in fast forward to show how he moved around the crib screaming. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">:</div>
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Oh but it was "only" for 4 nights. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: I just shake my head, because the minute that kid gets a runny nose or a new tooth, it will start all over again. How many times in his first few years will he endure the feeling of abandonment? How many times will he cry and cry and cry until he looses hope in his mother attending his needs? How many times will he not even bother to voice his opinions because he knows they don't matter? It breaks my heart that the kid has to go through all that before he can even talk. The "real" world is harsh enough, why can't we just nurture our BABIES for as long as they need it?<br><br>
Infancy and toddlerhood are a drop in the bucket compared to the rest of their lives. I just don't understand the desire to rush through it with as little physical contact as possible. It's sad. It's just sad. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/disappointed.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="disappointed"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/bawling.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="bawl"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/bawling.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="bawl">
 

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Something hit me while I was watching Al Roker talk about the upcoming segment, and then hearing what they were saying about how parents everywhere are struggling to get a full night's sleep.... I realized that maybe babies aren't SUPPOSED to sleep through the night? Call me crazy, but if parents everywhere are all fighting to get sleep and trying to reprogram their children, maybe nature is trying to tell us something???? It's a common question that everyone asks, too -- "Does he/she sleep through the night yet?" It's something everyone struggles with. It's not just a few kids who aren't "getting it" and need to be trained. Arrgh.<br><br>
Also -- training your kids to sleep when they are babies does not preclude you from having toddlers or older children who will have a hard time sleeping at night. I think if sleep training magically cured all sleep issues throughout one's life, studies would have shown this and the sleep trainers out there would be waving those results at all of us, saying "I told you so!!" So that negates everyone who says that if you don't train your kids, you aren't helping them get the tools to sleep through the night their whole life. I'd rather give my daughter security and snuggles and love, and teach her that she will always have THAT her whole life.<br><br>
IMO, sleep training is just a "quick fix" to make parents feel like they are the ones in control, when that is not the case at all.<br><br>
Also, have you noticed that all these parents who go through CIO (or whatever euphemism they give to CIO -- "Sleep Easy", etc.) HATE it? It goes against every instinct they have. They feel a physical urge to go get their baby. People, that is nature in full effect, kicking your instincts into high gear to tell you what you are *supposed* to be doing!!<br><br>
Sorry, I went on a bit of a rant there... I just really feel badly for these mothers who get bullied into sleep training when it obviously isn't what feels right for them. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> And I had tears jump into my eyes watching that baby screaming for his mother. What is wrong with us as a society that this is the norm???!?!? Was anyone else thinking that this lady's sleep issues could have been solved by bringing her babe into bed with her?<br><br>
Oh I could go on and on.. but I will spare you all from that... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I realized that maybe babies aren't SUPPOSED to sleep through the night? Call me crazy, but if parents everywhere are all fighting to get sleep and trying to reprogram their children, maybe nature is trying to tell us something????<br><br>
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Also, have you noticed that all these parents who go through CIO (or whatever euphemism they give to CIO -- "Sleep Easy", etc.) HATE it? It goes against every instinct they have. They feel a physical urge to go get their baby. People, that is nature in full effect, kicking your instincts into high gear to tell you what you are *supposed* to be doing!!</div>
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Exactly!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/nod.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="nod"><br><br>
Night waking is a survival instinct. There have been studies posted on here about how co-sleeping and breastfeeding in bed reduces the chances of SIDS, citing that long stretches of deep sleep may be to blame for SIDS, as the child has difficulty transitioning between sleep cycles, thus effecting their breathing. Plus, the child receives additional calories with night feedings, which during the active pre-toddler phase is important when they loose interest in day time nursing. And then there is the simple fact that humans are also animals, and there isn't a single lactating mammal on the planet, at least not one I've heard of, that separates their young from their mother for 12 HOURS (that's HALF the day!), especially at night time. They could freeze to death, be carried off by predators, become dehydrated.. any number of things.<br><br>
Children cry for their mothers because they NEED us as much as it is ingrained in our motherly make-up to respond to those cries. They happen for a reason, and to do otherwise is extremely presumptuous of us humans, who have this stupid idea that we can change what nature intended. It drives me crazy that we think we are so ABOVE everything that we can alter the basic instincts that babies and mothers are supposed to carry out.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">The worst part for me was that they filmed the child for a long time screaming and crying in his crib and then ran the footage in fast forward to show how he moved around the crib screaming. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">:</div>
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That makes me want to cry. That is insane!! And people watch this and think this is a good idea b/c some <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/censored.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="censored"> "expert" says it's the thing to do?!?!? What complete BS.<br><br>
What kills me is that many, many people believe everything they see on TV and will follow that advice. That's why I can't watch "A Baby Story" or "Bringing Home Baby" anymore. Not enough promotion of natural birth, breastfeeding, co-sleeping, or anything else that might promote attachment. Sigh...
 
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